racist?

[Snorri1234]

in america our flag, by law, flys the highest over all others

That's just racism pure and simple though...

well dancing mustard if you disagree with our flag flying the highest in the u.s. then you sir are UNPATRIOTIC

....or, y'know, not american....

[Dancing Mustard]

in america our flag, by law, flys the highest over all others

That's just racism pure and simple though...

well dancing mustard if you disagree with our flag flying the highest in the u.s. then you sir are UNPATRIOTIC

Nah. I just don't believe in using symbolism to state that one nation is more important than / better than, any other nation. Just because you're hiding that under the slimy veil of 'patriotism' doesn't make it ok... it just means that you're trying to appear to be a slightly less despicable form of racist.

After all, what is patriotism but a euphemism for nationally driven race-hate?

[Matroshka]

in america our flag, by law, flys the highest over all others

That's just racism pure and simple though...

well dancing mustard if you disagree with our flag flying the highest in the u.s. then you sir are UNPATRIOTIC

Nah. I just don't believe in using symbolism to state that one nation is more important than / better than, any other nation. Just because you're hiding that under the slimy veil of 'patriotism' doesn't make it ok... it just means that you're trying to appear to be a slightly less despicable form of racist.

After all, what is patriotism but a euphemism for nationally driven race-hate?

That doesn't make any sense at all. What race is America?

[Neoteny]

in america our flag, by law, flys the highest over all others

That's just racism pure and simple though...

well dancing mustard if you disagree with our flag flying the highest in the u.s. then you sir are UNPATRIOTIC

Nah. I just don't believe in using symbolism to state that one nation is more important than / better than, any other nation. Just because you're hiding that under the slimy veil of 'patriotism' doesn't make it ok... it just means that you're trying to appear to be a slightly less despicable form of racist.

After all, what is patriotism but a euphemism for nationally driven race-hate?

That doesn't make any sense at all. What race is America?

Awesomer than everyone else.

[Gregrios]

serious question, i took the time to look up racist in the dictionary, feel free to do the same.
just because someone gets excited and uses colorful language to taunt, or get under another persons skin, or even gets pissed off and lets someone have it in a moment of rage, does the language make that person a racist?

No! It does not.

End of discussion

WRONG!!!!!!!

When a person speaks out in anger usually it's their true inner thoughts coming out in true scum-bag fashion. End of story!

So the moral of the story is unless it's meant purely as a joke then chances are it's a racist comment. Obviously you've been in this situation considering your defensive stance on the subject.

WRONG!!!!!

When a person speaks out in anger, they are trying to hurt the other person! and sometimes throwing racial slurs accomplishes this aim! Doing so does not make that person a racist, nor does it reflect their true inner thoughts about race. It is simply a means to an end.

So what you're saying is when in anger a person would take a minute and rationally decide to call someone by a racial slur. That my freind is not being caught up in a moment of rage as you imply in your OP. That's simply venting anger. There's a difference incase you haven't noticed.

[Gregrios]

or even gets pissed off and lets someone have it in a moment of rage, does the language make that person a racist?

When a person speaks out in anger, they are trying to hurt the other person! and sometimes throwing racial slurs accomplishes this aim! Doing so does not make that person a racist, nor does it reflect their true inner thoughts about race. It is simply a means to an end.

You're comparing apples to oranges here. One minute you're talking about a thoughtless comment made out of rage. The next minute you're talking about a methotical process of using a racial slur.

Do you see what I mean?

[Matroshka]

serious question, i took the time to look up racist in the dictionary, feel free to do the same.
just because someone gets excited and uses colorful language to taunt, or get under another persons skin, or even gets pissed off and lets someone have it in a moment of rage, does the language make that person a racist?

No! It does not.

End of discussion

WRONG!!!!!!!

When a person speaks out in anger usually it's their true inner thoughts coming out in true scum-bag fashion. End of story!

So the moral of the story is unless it's meant purely as a joke then chances are it's a racist comment. Obviously you've been in this situation considering your defensive stance on the subject.

WRONG!!!!!

When a person speaks out in anger, they are trying to hurt the other person! and sometimes throwing racial slurs accomplishes this aim! Doing so does not make that person a racist, nor does it reflect their true inner thoughts about race. It is simply a means to an end.

So what you're saying is when in anger a person would take a minute and rationally decide to call someone by a racial slur. That my freind is not being caught up in a moment of rage as you imply in your OP. That's simply venting anger. There's a difference incase you haven't noticed.

How many of us got angry at our parents when we were little and told them that we hated them and wished we were never born? I did and I didn't mean it. You don't think rationally when you're angry, that's why you say irrational things.

Now when you're drunk, that's when the truth comes out

[ksslemp]

or even gets pissed off and lets someone have it in a moment of rage, does the language make that person a racist?

When a person speaks out in anger, they are trying to hurt the other person! and sometimes throwing racial slurs accomplishes this aim! Doing so does not make that person a racist, nor does it reflect their true inner thoughts about race. It is simply a means to an end.

You're comparing apples to oranges here. One minute you're talking about a thoughtless comment made out of rage. The next minute you're talking about a methotical process of using a racial slur.

Do you see what I mean?

The section above in blue is not something I said!!! Why the Hell are you portraying it as a quote from me?

OH I know!! You're a Democrat and need to use lies and half-truths to support an argument void of common sense.

Man-Up!

[Neoteny]

::cackle cackle::

[Dancing Mustard]

in america our flag, by law, flys the highest over all others

That's just racism pure and simple though...

well dancing mustard if you disagree with our flag flying the highest in the u.s. then you sir are UNPATRIOTIC

Nah. I just don't believe in using symbolism to state that one nation is more important than / better than, any other nation. Just because you're hiding that under the slimy veil of 'patriotism' doesn't make it ok... it just means that you're trying to appear to be a slightly less despicable form of racist.

After all, what is patriotism but a euphemism for nationally driven race-hate?

That doesn't make any sense at all. What race is America?

American presumably...

Wait for it, wait for it: "Oh oh oh! But I'm a very clever man and I wish to point out that people in America aren't all descended from the same national bloodstock!!1 I bet you hadn't seen that one coming!!!"

Yeah, have a biscuit... proclaiming some kind of culturaly based superiority over less genetically diverse nations is just as despicable a practice as discriminating against those nations on grounds of skin-colour. Bigots and hate-mongers, the lot of you.

[targetman377]

when i was in high school my teacher deifined raciesm to us and he said this "the only people that can be racist are the majority they get this way by opressing the minority." wich to me is a bunch of bull s#$T if you ask me. to be a racist you have to do more than say somthing about a group of people you have to mean it and belive it.

In some ways, your teacher was accurate. On a macro level, the "whites" might be the majority in the US, but this is not the case in many neighborhoods in cities across the nation. In NYC's Bed-Stuy, Harlem, or Chinatown, for example, being white can very easily (and does) lead to being subjected to racism by the population that comprises the majority. This, however, doesn't mean that the majority of people in those neighborhoods are racists, just that someone who would be considered the majority on the macro level would certainly be in the minority on the micro level, and be subjected to racism.

It takes many forms, from being charged higher prices for goods and services, to being ignored in preference for someone of the majority, etc.

The primary problem with defining racism as something someone truly believes is that we still haven't developed the technology to know the human heart (the US Patent Office and the DOJ are standing by, inventors!). Thus, attitudes, actions and words are the best indicators for what someone truly believes.

To claim that a comedian is a racist, unless they come right out and say that they are, isn't really fair, since the audience buys their ticket for the show with the understanding that the comedian is NOT to be taken seriously. However, that's a market driven force. If the comedian is overtly racist in his/her act, the revenue generated from the shows will dry up, and those kinds of jokes won't make money anymore (except, I'm sure, in niche racist markets).

On an internet forum, however, it's much different. There is no tacit understanding of not taking things seriously and there is no real suitable mechanism for restraining attempts at humor from going too far or ceasing to be humor in the first place. Saying "I'm just kidding" is a cop out, and not legitimate. Because of these limitations to the medium, and the fact that the content is user created (as opposed to a performer/audience relationship), one must generally fault on the side of avoiding anything that could be construed as racist. Most importantly, it's the lowest blow someone could make, appealing to the lowest common denominator, going after that which one cannot control.

ok sorry about making you wright all this but i was using sarcasim i will use faces now i was just try to point out that in order to be racest you have to mean it and not just say it

[Matroshka]

Yeah, have a biscuit... proclaiming some kind of culturaly based superiority over less genetically diverse nations is just as despicable a practice as discriminating against those nations on grounds of skin-colour. Bigots and hate-mongers, the lot of you.

What in the world are you talking about? First America is racist because the American flag is to be flown higher than other nations' flags and now we are somehow "bigots and hate-mongers" for being "genetically diverse" and accepting all races and cultures into our country.

I hope you are joking.

[azezzo]

in america our flag, by law, flys the highest over all others

That's just racism pure and simple though...

well dancing mustard if you disagree with our flag flying the highest in the u.s. then you sir are UNPATRIOTIC

Nah. I just don't believe in using symbolism to state that one nation is more important than / better than, any other nation. Just because you're hiding that under the slimy veil of 'patriotism' doesn't make it ok... it just means that you're trying to appear to be a slightly less despicable form of racist.

After all, what is patriotism but a euphemism for nationally driven race-hate?

That doesn't make any sense at all. What race is America?

American presumably...

Wait for it, wait for it: "Oh oh oh! But I'm a very clever man and I wish to point out that people in America aren't all descended from the same national bloodstock!!1 I bet you hadn't seen that one coming!!!"

Yeah, have a biscuit... proclaiming some kind of culturaly based superiority over less genetically diverse nations is just as despicable a practice as discriminating against those nations on grounds of skin-colour. Bigots and hate-mongers, the lot of you.[/quote]

dancing mustard you are a hypocritical little troll

you mean to tell all of us that the following words have NEVER come out of your mouth..............................................

i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.

you me and every new legal immigrant who came here to become an american citizen have said those words.

[Snorri1234]

Yeah, have a biscuit... proclaiming some kind of culturaly based superiority over less genetically diverse nations is just as despicable a practice as discriminating against those nations on grounds of skin-colour. Bigots and hate-mongers, the lot of you.

What in the world are you talking about? First America is racist because the American flag is to be flown higher than other nations' flags and now we are somehow "bigots and hate-mongers" for being "genetically diverse" and accepting all races and cultures into our country.

I hope you are joking.

I think it would be far more accurate to state that you are "bigots and hate-mongers" for acting like your country and it's people are far better than any other country.

[Snorri1234]

you mean to tell all of us that the following words have NEVER come out of your mouth..............................................

i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.

I think you can safely say DM has never said that.

[Neoteny]

you mean to tell all of us that the following words have NEVER come out of your mouth..............................................

i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty, and justice for all.

I think you can safely say DM has never said that.

God, I love America.

[azezzo]

dancing mustard, now i see your problem with the AMERICAN flag..........................................................................

keep your stupid trolling ass in the united kingdom, i guess your tea and crumpets dont taste as good as hot dogs and apple pie.

[Neoteny]

[Matroshka]

Yeah, have a biscuit... proclaiming some kind of culturaly based superiority over less genetically diverse nations is just as despicable a practice as discriminating against those nations on grounds of skin-colour. Bigots and hate-mongers, the lot of you.

What in the world are you talking about? First America is racist because the American flag is to be flown higher than other nations' flags and now we are somehow "bigots and hate-mongers" for being "genetically diverse" and accepting all races and cultures into our country.

I hope you are joking.

I think it would be far more accurate to state that you are "bigots and hate-mongers" for acting like your country and it's people are far better than any other country.

I don't know what examples you are using to fuel this assumption that all of the U.S. thinks it's people and country are far better than any other, but I believe you are confusing pretentiousness with pride and patriotism.

[jonesthecurl]

in america our flag, by law, flys the highest over all others

That's just racism pure and simple though...

Yeh, except there's no such thing as an "American" race, except the ones that the Europeans took the continent away from.

Hmm: not sure who I'm disagreeing with there. Just thougth it oughta be said.

[jiminski]

Racism has come to mean more than just discrimination based upon 'race' .... otherwise the term 'Spic' would not qualify as racist terminology.

[This Is Sparta]

Baa baa black sheep?

or

baa baa multi-coloured sheep?

[jonesthecurl]

dancing mustard, now i see your problem with the AMERICAN flag..........................................................................

keep your stupid trolling ass in the united kingdom, i guess your tea and crumpets dont taste as good as hot dogs and apple pie.

Good to see that the discussion is now on a rational basis, not a hate-filled "yay for my side" pile of crap.
Oh wait, that pile of crap didn't come out of azezzo's arse, it cam out of his mouth.
Oh wait, no difference.

Btw DM has a trolling "arse", not ass.

[azezzo]

dancing mustard, now i see your problem with the AMERICAN flag..........................................................................

keep your stupid trolling ass in the united kingdom, i guess your tea and crumpets dont taste as good as hot dogs and apple pie.

Good to see that the discussion is now on a rational basis, not a hate-filled "yay for my side" pile of crap.
Oh wait, that pile of crap didn't come out of azezzo's arse, it cam out of his mouth.
Oh wait, no difference.

Btw DM has a trolling "arse", not ass.

your right jonesy
but being from jersey, i would expect you to agree that hotdogs and apple pie are far superior to tea and crumpets.
tea and crumpets are defintely inferior, no fault though to there weak national heritage

[Snorri1234]

dancing mustard, now i see your problem with the AMERICAN flag..........................................................................

keep your stupid trolling ass in the united kingdom, i guess your tea and crumpets dont taste as good as hot dogs and apple pie.

Good to see that the discussion is now on a rational basis, not a hate-filled "yay for my side" pile of crap.
Oh wait, that pile of crap didn't come out of azezzo's arse, it cam out of his mouth.
Oh wait, no difference.

Btw DM has a trolling "arse", not ass.

your right jonesy
but being from jersey, i would expect you to agree that hotdogs and apple pie are far superior to tea and crumpets.
tea and crumpets are defintely inferior, no fault though to there weak national heritage

Oh man, you keep failing and failing.