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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:35 pm

joecoolfrog wrote:Player you live in a country with an abnormaly high degree of theists and in a culture that shuns atheists, consequently your personal experience is hardly scientific in its objectivety. You do yourself a great diservice by exagerating in such a way, you know full well that creationists will pick up on one small thing and use it to discredit far greater and more important truths,

We can debate the relative positions of atheists and theists of all types in our societies, but in truth, it is irrelevant.

The thing is to keep facts as facts, opinions as opinions and beliefs as beliefs.

Theories, in the scientific sense, are a bit trickier because some are little more than one or two person's ideas and others are backed by so many facts that there is only the slimmest of possibilities the theory is wrong.

Evolution is one of those that will be extremely hard to disprove with honesty. It is sad that Christians have taken the route of deception instead of truth in this battle. It is even sadder that so many thinking people are utterly failing to find the reality that will so clearly show scientific creationism is anything but science ... and anything but Christian.
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Neoteny on Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:52 pm

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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Juan_Bottom on Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:20 am

Guys(Neoteny),

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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby PLAYER57832 on Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:18 am

We will only have "won" when we no longer have 30% of government officials, even TODAY believing that Scientific Creationism or any of the current Creationist ideas actually present a true and valid alternative.
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby jay_a2j on Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:35 am

PLAYER57832 wrote:We will only have "won" when we no longer have 30% of government officials, even TODAY believing that Scientific Creationism or any of the current Creationist ideas actually present a true and valid alternative.



Do you even hold a small spot in your mind that God created Adam and Eve without evolution? Or is this something that is "impossible" in your highly scientific mind?
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby heavycola on Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:42 am

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PLAYER57832 wrote:We will only have "won" when we no longer have 30% of government officials, even TODAY believing that Scientific Creationism or any of the current Creationist ideas actually present a true and valid alternative.



Do you even hold a small spot in your mind that God created Adam and Eve without evolution?


No.

Do you have a small spot in your mind that 99.9% of the global scientific community might be right?
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:43 am

His mind is a small spot.
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby jay_a2j on Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:47 am

heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:We will only have "won" when we no longer have 30% of government officials, even TODAY believing that Scientific Creationism or any of the current Creationist ideas actually present a true and valid alternative.



Do you even hold a small spot in your mind that God created Adam and Eve without evolution?


No.

Do you have a small spot in your mind that 99.9% of the global scientific community might be right?



More like a .1 %
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby heavycola on Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:19 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:His mind is a small spot.
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby PLAYER57832 on Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:46 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:We will only have "won" when we no longer have 30% of government officials, even TODAY believing that Scientific Creationism or any of the current Creationist ideas actually present a true and valid alternative.



Do you even hold a small spot in your mind that God created Adam and Eve without evolution?


No.

Do you have a small spot in your mind that 99.9% of the global scientific community might be right?





More like a .1 %


You obviously have not even bothered to find out what Evolution really entails, or who really accepts it. NOR have you even considered any of the MANY, MANY challenges. Until you are willing to examine ALL the evidence with TRUTH ... the only people you will "convince" are those, like yourself, who cannot be bothered to find out if they have been told the truth or told lies.


As for God -- I am 100% sure that God created everything ... AND that he is masterful enough to have created the entire system we see, plus more. He is not in any way limited by those few who decide to ignore reality and think they have to apply scientific terms to a completely non-scientific text.

I also know that Christ is about truth, not lies. ANYONE who uses Christs name to put forward lies ... be they Creationist lies or any other is committing the greatest sin there is. NO, scientists may be wrong, but they do not lie. Those in the Creation Science institute and the rest who continue to put forward lies are NOT representatives of Christ. That is what I know.

AND I know that the more true and honest people hear what Creationism is REALLY about, the more you will look the fools.

Maybe Sarah Palin coming to the fore is a good thing... if people finally take the time to examine what so-called Creation Science is REALLY saying.
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Snorri1234 on Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:00 pm

Jay did once have a class on evolution but he says he didn't listen to the teacher.


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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Neoteny on Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:31 pm

WHOO HOO!
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Frigidus on Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:35 pm

Oh, this brings back memories. Hello, old friend.
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Neoteny on Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:37 pm

Frigidus wrote:Oh, this brings back memories. Hello, old friend.


It's like a warm pillow.
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Gregrios on Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:39 pm

Wow! This is one hell of a heated discussion. :shock:
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Dancing Mustard on Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:13 am

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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Snorri1234 on Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:03 am

Good times, good times.
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Dancing Mustard on Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:05 am

Yeah.

It's just a shame that this thread died after 'intelligent design' was exploded and all the creationists were proved conclusively wrong.
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Juan_Bottom on Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:22 am

Dancing Mustard wrote:Yeah.

It's just a shame that this thread died after 'intelligent design' was exploded and all the creationists were proved conclusively wrong.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Didn't that happen by like page 5?
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby joecoolfrog on Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:47 am

Gregrios wrote:Wow! This is one hell of a heated discussion. :shock:


Hardly a discussion as one side constantly failed to put forward any evidence to support their stance.
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Snorri1234 on Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:14 am

joecoolfrog wrote:
Gregrios wrote:Wow! This is one hell of a heated discussion. :shock:


Hardly a discussion as one side constantly failed to put forward any evidence to support their stance.


I can't help but giggle when I read Jay's argument about speech and communication.
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Backglass on Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:13 pm

Gregrios wrote:Wow! This is one hell of a heated discussion. :shock:


True...Except that hell doesn't exist. :lol:
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Gregrios on Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:25 pm

Backglass wrote:
Gregrios wrote:Wow! This is one hell of a heated discussion. :shock:


True...Except that hell doesn't exist. :lol:


Only a real winner laughs at his own jokes.(sarcasim intended) :lol:
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Frigidus on Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:06 pm

Gregrios wrote:
Backglass wrote:
Gregrios wrote:Wow! This is one hell of a heated discussion. :shock:


True...Except that hell doesn't exist. :lol:


Only a real winner laughs at his own jokes.(sarcasim intended) :lol: <----------


Was the irony also intended?
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Re: Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

Postby Juan_Bottom on Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:12 pm

:lol: :lol:

If I'm just laughing does that make me a "winner?"
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