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Postby sportsdd2 on Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:34 pm

i have a few gay friends and im ok w/ that, as long as they arent doing anyitng infront of me im ok
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Postby strike wolf on Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:50 pm

This is too controversial a topic for my taste but I don't really have any problem with it either. As long as they are not trying to pull anything on me.
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:51 pm

Machiavelli wrote:Lets save it for the flame wars s.xy :roll: :wink:


s.xy? where did that come from? and no, i won't save it for the flame wars...i mean, love the flame wars for that reason, but still... :wink:
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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:51 pm

strike wolf wrote:This is too controversial a topic for my taste but I don't really have any problem with it either. As long as they are not trying to pull anything on me.


agreed.
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:53 pm

sportsdd2 wrote:i have a few gay friends and im ok w/ that, as long as they arent doing anyitng infront of me im ok


what about if its a "normal" couple..you know, a guy and a girl...then do you mind?
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Postby cowshrptrn on Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:55 pm

strike wolf wrote:... I don't really have any problem with it either. As long as they are not trying to pull anything on me.


Its people with opinions like that which rally show how homophobic our culture is, they assume because someone is gay they'll hit on anyone of the same sex, do YOU hit on anyone girl that you see? most guys dont' "try to pull anything" on everyone they meet.

If this were flipped, you were gay and had to be in a room full of girls, i doubt u'd be worried that they'd "try somethign on you" not to specifically pick on you, wolf, but a few others i've seen in thei thread. Homophobia is rampant here...
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:57 pm

homophobia is rampant in the US...i wish it were like a disease, and we could cure it...
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Postby strike wolf on Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:59 pm

cowshrptrn wrote:
strike wolf wrote:... I don't really have any problem with it either. As long as they are not trying to pull anything on me.


Its people with opinions like that which rally show how homophobic our culture is, they assume because someone is gay they'll hit on anyone of the same sex, do YOU hit on anyone girl that you see? most guys dont' "try to pull anything" on everyone they meet.

If this were flipped, you were gay and had to be in a room full of girls, i doubt u'd be worried that they'd "try somethign on you" not to specifically pick on you, wolf, but a few others i've seen in thei thread. Homophobia is rampant here...


As long as you are not implying that I do think that they will all flirt with any guy they see. It just makes me a little uncomfortable, if one of them was to flirt with me.
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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:02 pm

strike wolf wrote:
cowshrptrn wrote:
strike wolf wrote:... I don't really have any problem with it either. As long as they are not trying to pull anything on me.


Its people with opinions like that which rally show how homophobic our culture is, they assume because someone is gay they'll hit on anyone of the same sex, do YOU hit on anyone girl that you see? most guys dont' "try to pull anything" on everyone they meet.

If this were flipped, you were gay and had to be in a room full of girls, i doubt u'd be worried that they'd "try somethign on you" not to specifically pick on you, wolf, but a few others i've seen in thei thread. Homophobia is rampant here...


As long as you are not implying that I do think that they will all flirt with any guy they see. It just makes me a little uncomfortable.


here's what i think: wouldnt u be uncomfortable IF they tried something on u. that's all im saying. im not saying that even .1% of gays are even like that. just wanted to clarify my agreement with Strike
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Postby cowshrptrn on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:05 pm

but why even mention it? Its like saying i'd liek a dog so long as it doesn't bite me, a minority of dogs might, but the fact that you said it jsut demonstrates how you're afraid of dogs.

Peopel dont' view homosexuals with respect, and its rather sad because being gay is one of the ahrdest things to do in this culture, and they deserve respect for admitting it and opening themselves up to be criticized by hordes of people.
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:05 pm

P Gizzle wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
cowshrptrn wrote:
strike wolf wrote:... I don't really have any problem with it either. As long as they are not trying to pull anything on me.


Its people with opinions like that which rally show how homophobic our culture is, they assume because someone is gay they'll hit on anyone of the same sex, do YOU hit on anyone girl that you see? most guys dont' "try to pull anything" on everyone they meet.

If this were flipped, you were gay and had to be in a room full of girls, i doubt u'd be worried that they'd "try somethign on you" not to specifically pick on you, wolf, but a few others i've seen in thei thread. Homophobia is rampant here...


As long as you are not implying that I do think that they will all flirt with any guy they see. It just makes me a little uncomfortable.


here's what i think: wouldnt u be uncomfortable IF they tried something on u. that's all im saying. im not saying that even .1% of gays are even like that. just wanted to clarify my agreement with Strike


really...geeze...people are so touchy...what if a bi-sexual girl hits on you? is that just as bad?
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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:08 pm

cowshrptrn wrote:but why even mention it? Its like saying i'd liek a dog so long as it doesn't bite me, a minority of dogs might, but the fact that you said it jsut demonstrates how you're afraid of dogs.

Peopel dont' view homosexuals with respect, and its rather sad because being gay is one of the ahrdest things to do in this culture, and they deserve respect for admitting it and opening themselves up to be criticized by hordes of people.



i agree. but let me ask u this: would you be uncomfortable in a situation like that?

and for kitten, it's definitely an uncomfortable situation. none of these are "bad situations" just ones that would make you think "well this is uncomfortable"
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Postby strike wolf on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:13 pm

Why mention it? Good question. It was really just a spur of the moment reply.

I have friends who are straight and I have friends who are gay. Neither 1 will say that I really treat them any differently. I do not have anything against them. It's just the nature of my being straight that makes me a little uncomfortable, a weird little glitch thrown into my instincts that just makes it seem a little uncomforting.
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Postby cowshrptrn on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:13 pm

I's just tired of gays being treated by many as if they dont' deserve the same right as everyoen else because they make someone feel uncomfortable because of who they are. The fact that people still have this feeling shows that anti-homosexual tendencies are so embedded in our culture that people have a hard time shaking them.
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:13 pm

to answer the question, no, i wouldn't be uncomfortable...
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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:15 pm

well, then ur a better person than I. and yes, it was very spur of the moment, and now i regret it. im not gonna post in this, cuz i see where this is headed.

i don't like these internet arguments :? :wink:
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:17 pm

yeah, new subject...before some serious christian person (without stereo-typing anybody) comes in and ruins it all...
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Postby cowshrptrn on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:18 pm

most of them are a battles of sheer numbers, often times logic is unnecessary, more posts = win

also wins are pointless, since no one changes their views since we're all too stubborn.
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:20 pm

ooh, i see...that makes some sense...it should be about material in the arguements...but its not, its about who can type more...
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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:21 pm

cowshrptrn wrote:most of them are a battles of sheer numbers, often times logic is unnecessary, more posts = win

also wins are pointless, since no one changes their views since we're all too stubborn.



i completely agree with you on that :lol: 8) personally, i hate the arguments, but that's just me
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Postby cowshrptrn on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:22 pm

for me its the thrill of the argument, cus i knwo i'm not gonna convert anyone here
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Postby P Gizzle on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:23 pm

i like the arguments, but i hate how they go in vicious circles and nothing happens. esp in religious arguments
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Postby s.xkitten on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:24 pm

oh yeah...thrill that fades to totally pissed-offedness...cause i hate it when people don't at least look at your point of view...they just blow it off as not as good...when it is just as good
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Postby strike wolf on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:25 pm

P Gizzle wrote:
cowshrptrn wrote:most of them are a battles of sheer numbers, often times logic is unnecessary, more posts = win

also wins are pointless, since no one changes their views since we're all too stubborn.



i completely agree with you on that :lol: 8) personally, i hate the arguments, but that's just me


I like arguing but I always hate getting involved because it's like a never-ending always repeating vortex that keeps dipping you deeper and deeper only for you to realize that you have not only not changed anyone's opinions but also find that you are stuck there yourself. I really feel like most of the people in those threads have gotten themselves involved in the same things. I also think that is why I haven't heard from Only Ambrose recently.
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Postby cowshrptrn on Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:26 pm

yeah, iv' been distancing myself form them, thats cus people hold really strong convictions, also its rally hard to get data to back up your arguments, since no one accepts the sources as non-partisan. They also jsut argue the points they have good counters for, and ignore the really damning evidence.
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