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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Neoteny on Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:54 pm

Frigidus wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
Frigidus wrote:QFT. On a side note, I don't get what the big deal is about partial birth abortions. I mean, it's some...thing that just spent the last 9 months living in a vagina. It's like a parasite.


You sir are a monster.


I wish to clarify your statement by asserting that I hate children. They should all be shot, and abortion is leading the way. Oh, and a little off topic but I can't stand the war in Iraq. It has been a senseless loss of life on both sides of the equation.


Children are seriously little dicks. f*ck 'em.
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Snorri1234 on Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:20 pm

Frigidus wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
Frigidus wrote:QFT. On a side note, I don't get what the big deal is about partial birth abortions. I mean, it's some...thing that just spent the last 9 months living in a vagina. It's like a parasite.


You sir are a monster.


I wish to clarify your statement by asserting that I hate children. They should all be shot, and abortion is leading the way. Oh, and a little off topic but I can't stand the war in Iraq. It has been a senseless loss of life on both sides of the equation.


I agree with your question 100%.
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby The1exile on Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:35 pm

Jenos Ridan wrote:
Frigidus wrote:QFT. On a side note, I don't get what the big deal is about partial birth abortions. I mean, it's some...thing that just spent the last 9 months living in a vagina. It's like a parasite.


You sir are a monster.

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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Dancing Mustard on Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:46 pm

Neoteny wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
Frigidus wrote:QFT. On a side note, I don't get what the big deal is about partial birth abortions. I mean, it's some...thing that just spent the last 9 months living in a vagina. It's like a parasite.


You sir are a monster.


I wish to clarify your statement by asserting that I hate children. They should all be shot, and abortion is leading the way. Oh, and a little off topic but I can't stand the war in Iraq. It has been a senseless loss of life on both sides of the equation.


Children are seriously little dicks. f*ck 'em.

Cue some kind of vulgar joke about it being pointless to have intercourse with a small penis.

Also... if it were up to me, I'd liquidise all dogs after one year of life. Puppies are cool, but dogs are just plain old retarded.
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby PLAYER57832 on Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:44 pm

mpjh wrote:
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InkL0sed wrote:Reagonomics is Voodoo economics. Wealth does not trickle down - in fact, the circulation of money, goods, and services, is tipped in favor of the rich. The gap between the rich and the poor only grows wider with time. Without a lot of redistribution of that wealth, the middle class disappears, and the poor eventually become slaves to the rich.


Then explain the rise of the middle class in the late 19th century on the the mid 20th.

Please, stop paraphrasing Marx people. The man had no idea what he was talking about; he thought the revolution would happen in industrial nations, but it happened in places like Tsarist Russia, China and so forth.


mpjh wrote:The middle class rose on the backs of slaves and then on the exploitation of the land and resources of the indigenous. In the Unites States, there was an extra boost in the md 20th century in the form of subsidies to highways, gas, electric, and communications infrastructure drawn from fees to the urban poor.

Marx never said that.


Late 19th century: after 1865, there were no more slaves in the US. In Europe, slavery was outlawed decades earlier (which is interesting, since they also started reducing their use of plastic bags sometime in the mid-80's, perhaps it is true and that they are, on average, smarter. Now, to find out why......). If you want to talk about share cropping, they still were not slaves. Slaves are property, share croppers are paid laborers and have legal rights as citizens. I will make no excuses, what happened to the Indians was horrible. Not as bad as the Holocaust, but terrible none the less.

Last I checked, government funds are drawn from people's incomes based on the amount of money they make, meaning the rich get taxes more than the poor (by percent of income, some one like Bill Gates will get taxed something like 95%, wereas I will only have to pay about 33% or less). It has been that way since Ted Roosevelt was president.

I read Marx to have said that. He also said that a violent revolution was not only neccessary, but inevitable, did he not?


The advantages to white people - who made up the vast majority of the so-called middle class - did not end with the legal end of slavery or the imprisonment of native Americans in reservations. History has a way of continuing from past to present, and the wealth accumulated and the resources appropriated continued to work to the advantage of white folks.

I was not speaking of taxes when I talked about the subsidy of the infrastructure that advantaged white people, but the prices paid. If you had lived here during the mid twentieth century, as I did, you would know that the prices for highways, public transportation, electricity, gas, and communications overcharged the urban poor and undercharged, significantly, the suburban middle class. Unlike Europe, our middle class is largely a suburban phenomenon. I actually testified as an expert witness in many of the cases that attempted, with some small success, to remove these subsidies.

Never read Marx. Have read Amil Cabrar, Franz Fannon, Mao, Martin Luther King, Stigletz, Lenin, Gandhi, Friedman, Newton, etc. etc.
All of whom speak eloquently of this phenomenon, both on a national and international level.



No see, why read such purely radical stuff ... it might only CONFUSE tose poor impressionable minds. That's why everyone must be home -schooled.

And now, we have it even better in the public schools. After all, isn't Bush's no child left behind the most perfect educational model?
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Snorri1234 on Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:35 pm

I think Jenos might actually think you're being serious.
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby heavycola on Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:25 pm

Frigidus wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
Frigidus wrote:QFT. On a side note, I don't get what the big deal is about partial birth abortions. I mean, it's some...thing that just spent the last 9 months living in a vagina. It's like a parasite.


You sir are a monster.


I wish to clarify your statement by asserting that I hate children. They should all be shot, and abortion is leading the way. Oh, and a little off topic but I can't stand the war in Iraq. It has been a senseless loss of life on both sides of the equation.


except for the children, obv.
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby b.k. barunt on Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:41 pm

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b.k. barunt wrote:Well slap my ass and call me Long Duc Dong, but i say let the Chinese buy us out. Our present leaders have pretty much finished off our Constitution and are rapidly pushing us toward a dictatorship, and if i have to choose between a little weaselfaced, phonyTexasaccent cheesewanker, and a socialistic slanty eyed newboss, i think i'll take my chances. Hell, they've already got the Bay Area where i was raised - the high school i was kicked out of is now 80% oriental and the #2 high school in Amerika.

I for one have had enough of this bullshit. NO BAILOUT! They'll just ask for another one later on down the line. Enough of the anemic slow death here - i myself would prefer a little chaos in the streets - besides, i like Chinese food.


Honibaz


I just hope, for your sake, you don't get targeted by some band of toothless hicks as a collaborator or sympathizer. Last I checked, lead in large amounts (especially forcibly inserted) is bad for your health.


Well last i checked, i was the inserter, not the insertee.


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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Kingdroid on Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:49 pm

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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby clapper011 on Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:52 pm

Kingdroid wrote:I approve this thread.

another one trying to high jack threads. I suggest stop trying so hard, ask to be part of the spamalot group. there is a thread in this forum labelled so.
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Kingdroid on Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:55 pm

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Kingdroid wrote:I approve this thread.

another one trying to high jack threads. I suggest stop trying so hard, ask to be part of the spamalot group. there is a thread in this forum labelled so.

HOW AM I HI-JACKING?

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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Dancing Mustard on Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:36 am

Expressing approval may be spam, but hijacking? Really?

Seriously, how is saying "I like what we're doing here, let's keep doing the same thing" trying to de-rail a topic?
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Iliad on Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:48 am

Dancing Mustard wrote:Expressing approval may be spam, but hijacking? Really?

Seriously, how is saying "I like what we're doing here, let's keep doing the same thing" trying to de-rail a topic?

I think you're a brilliant, intellectual man

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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Ditocoaf on Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:44 am

Heh, looks to me like clapper is the one who derailed this thread. :lol:
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Neoteny on Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:15 am

Ditocoaf wrote:Heh, looks to me like clapper is the one who derailed this thread. :lol:


Go figure.
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby hecter on Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:16 pm

Man, way to derail the thread clapper...
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby mpjh on Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:45 pm

What was the topic again?
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:55 pm

I think the thread is called "how to derail a thread".
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Jenos Ridan on Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:17 pm

Frigidus wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
Frigidus wrote:QFT. On a side note, I don't get what the big deal is about partial birth abortions. I mean, it's some...thing that just spent the last 9 months living in a vagina. It's like a parasite.


You sir are a monster.


I wish to clarify your statement by asserting that I hate children. They should all be shot, and abortion is leading the way. Oh, and a little off topic but I can't stand the war in Iraq. It has been a senseless loss of life on both sides of the equation.


You are still a monster. Killing the unborn, especially that late in development? Do the world a favor and go play tag with a speeding train.
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby hecter on Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:43 pm

Jenos Ridan wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
Frigidus wrote:QFT. On a side note, I don't get what the big deal is about partial birth abortions. I mean, it's some...thing that just spent the last 9 months living in a vagina. It's like a parasite.


You sir are a monster.


I wish to clarify your statement by asserting that I hate children. They should all be shot, and abortion is leading the way. Oh, and a little off topic but I can't stand the war in Iraq. It has been a senseless loss of life on both sides of the equation.


You are still a monster. Killing the unborn, especially that late in development? Do the world a favor and go play tag with a speeding train.

I tried that once... No matter how fast I ran, I was never able to catch the damn thing :?

Also, you just got trolled.

PS I hate babies too...
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Jenos Ridan on Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:09 pm

mpjh wrote:What was the topic again?


Heavycola ranting about how how this is somehow the fail of small Federal Government advocates. I'd say that having less bureucracy than we have now is a good thing, not that the government should do nothing. In other words, the Government should be held to a higher standard than the companies it proposes to bail out.

Unfortunately, many like me have lost confidance in the officials we've elected.
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Frigidus on Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:22 pm

I still don't get it. Everyone makes such a fuss over a few dead babies. Who cares? Babies are so stupid, they can barely move or think when they're born, and since they aren't sentient they're open to being killed, sort of like deer and puppies. As an aside, I think that we (the US) owe a lot to the minorities we've discriminated against (whether it be slavery, mass murder, or simple prejudice), and that whatever comes out of the current economic turmoil we need to hang onto social security and affirmative action. There are hardly words that can describe the debt we owe non-whites in this country.
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Jenos Ridan on Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:38 pm

Frigidus wrote:I still don't get it. Everyone makes such a fuss over a few dead babies. Who cares? Babies are so stupid, they can barely move or think when they're born, and since they aren't sentient they're open to being killed, sort of like deer and puppies. As an aside, I think that we (the US) owe a lot to the minorities we've discriminated against (whether it be slavery, mass murder, or simple prejudice), and that whatever comes out of the current economic turmoil we need to hang onto social security and affirmative action. There are hardly words that can describe the debt we owe non-whites in this country.


Seriously, go stand in front of a train. Or in the freeway. Or walk off of a bridge.

There is no, repeat, no excuse for your behavior.
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Nickbaldwin on Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:41 pm

You're telling him to kill himself.... while expressing your disapproval of abortion. Why is it any worse if a baby dies than a full grown adult?
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Re: socialism vindicated

Postby Ditocoaf on Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:34 pm

Jenos Ridan wrote:
Frigidus wrote:I still don't get it. Everyone makes such a fuss over a few dead babies. Who cares? Babies are so stupid, they can barely move or think when they're born, and since they aren't sentient they're open to being killed, sort of like deer and puppies. As an aside, I think that we (the US) owe a lot to the minorities we've discriminated against (whether it be slavery, mass murder, or simple prejudice), and that whatever comes out of the current economic turmoil we need to hang onto social security and affirmative action. There are hardly words that can describe the debt we owe non-whites in this country.


Seriously, go stand in front of a train. Or in the freeway. Or walk off of a bridge.

There is no, repeat, no excuse for your behavior.

So, if I said that all women should be legally obliged to give birth (c-sections don't count) to no fewer than three children by the time they reach the age of 22, would you bestow upon me the privilege of driving that train?
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