Debate To End It All [Luns vs. Anti-Luns]

[Sentinel XIV]

Neoteny asked me to post this in his stead. Let's get it on!

Let us begin. First of all, I would like to thank the committee, and all of our audience members for making this public debacle, er... debate, possible. The audience has been instructed to remain silent throughout the duration of the debate, but we are obviously not expecting any cooperation. At the end of the debate, the audience will be allowed to ask questions of the participants. Secondly, the rules of the debate as explained to the participants are as follows: they are expected to uphold the standards of the forum, and maintain the maximum expression of integrity, honesty, and respect. Allowed within these guidelines are, of course, lying, dodging the questions, attacking your opponent both verbally and physically, crying, and bad photo editing. Let's give them a round of applause, as our participants enter the forum.

Luns and Anti-Luns!

Gentlemen, here are your questions.

1. Katie Couric: would you bang her?

2. The general discussion forum: is it necessary?

3. What would luns/antiluns do for me? How will this affect the forum? Can I sell it on eBay?

4. Should soccer be considered a real sport?

5. Who is your least favorite stooge, and why?

6. Have you ever "cranked dat?"

7. Why shouldn't we vote for your opponent? What dirty secrets can you reveal?

8. Are you a Jack Kennedy?

9. If your opponent were on TV with you during this debate, how would he look right now?

10. Give us a closing statement that answers the following question: "Srsly?"

[Neoteny]

I am now here to moderate this apparently ghostly clash of titans. Anyhow, take your time answering these questions, as the future of the known world rests upon them. It will not end until winner is decided...

[DaGip]

Thank you, Neoteny (and Sentinel) and especially to the ConquerClub forum-aholics, of which we wouldn't even give a shit.

Now, we can talk all day long until we are blue in the face over the Katie Couric issue, but to what extent are we actually making any progress in job creation? Sure, the regular "Joe 12-pack" will say,"I wouldn't kick that out of bed.", but then again "Joe 12-pack" hasn't been informed on the real issue at hand.

When it comes to women, I prefer them to be a bit more focused on my needs and not be so open to every t-o-m, dick, or Harry.

To tell you truthfully, I never really gave it much thought on whether or not I would sleep with her, so you kind of got me on one of those on the spot answers.

A typical person can't really answer that question unless certain or multiple criteria and circumstances are first presented, such as:

Would you sleep with Katie Couric if she was the last female on the face of the planet?

Well, of course I would. Who wouldn't! I am only human, plus I believe it would be my great obligation to the world to do so!

World First! I always say!

But if the criteria for sleeping with Katie Couric were broadened, I may answer differently, such as:

If given the choice between Raylene Richards or Katie Couric, who would you rather sleep with?

Of course I would have to answer Raylene Richards. So in better evaluation of the question, as a whole, and after knowing things about Katie a man should never have to know (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUi0rRbJmUM), I would have to anwer: No.

[Neoteny]

Thank you anti-luns, for your response. Luns, do you have a reply?

[luns101]

Thank you anti-luns, for your response. Luns, do you have a reply?

Anti-Luns used to date Keith Olbermann

[DaGip]

Thank you anti-luns, for your response. Luns, do you have a reply?

Anti-Luns used to date Keith Olbermann

That is simply untrue...

[luns101]

Let me just say in my opening remarks that I wish to thank the audience, our moderator - Neoteny, and Conquer Club for sponsoring this debate. These are interesting times and they call for interesting solutions. Since I am a more interesting person than Anti-Puns (DaGip) you should be voting for me. Anti-Luns makes me sick, to be quite honest. He goes around these forums pretending to be a vampire, lil' Hitler, or some fiendish devil with flames portruding from behind his worthless being.

It was I that had the good judgment to bring a UK liberal onto my ticket. Stopper has been out and about...roaming the international community and building a strong coalition of leftists and right-wing nutjobs to form an unparalleled political party, the likes of which we'll probably never see again in our lifetimes.

Let's just take a brief look, shall we...Luns/Stopper '08 is endorsed by:

Miley Cyrus, Gene Rayburn, Greg Brady, The Defamation League, The Anti-Defamation League, The Justice League, Earth & Fire (Stopper is still working on Wind), Kool AND The Gang, Uganda (yes, the entire country), Malcolm X, Triple X, The Fast AND The Furious, Ron Paul's barber, Flavor Flav, Tela Tequila, Abe Vigoda, Manchester United, Ian Thorpe, ABBA, The Corleone Family, The Sopranos, Chuck Liddell, Chris Angel, The Proclaimers, and the 4 out of 5 dentists who recommend Trident for their patients who chew gum.

The ability to bring all of these people and organizations takes leadership...leadership you can count on in interesting times such as these. Vote Luns101/Stopper '08

[Neoteny]

So, luns, seeing as how you are supported by Man U, would you be willing to say you think soccer is a real sport? Or rather, do you consider it to be real football?

[luns101]

So, luns, seeing as how you are supported by Man U, would you be willing to say you think soccer is a real sport? Or rather, do you consider it to be real football?

I would say it's real

[DaGip]

So, luns, seeing as how you are supported by Man U, would you be willing to say you think soccer is a real sport? Or rather, do you consider it to be real football?

I would say it's real

It is only as real as one believes it to be, and in the Empire of the AntiLuns, whatever you believe and put your heart to, you will find you will be able to accomplish. Heck, if you BELIEVE in it, even cherry stem tying is a sport.

Now, seeings that your endorsements prove to all be part of the Good Ol' Boy network, of which ConquerCLub members are starting to get a little sick and tired of. They are looking for REAL change, real change that only the AntiLuns can give them. Change that will grip the world! Sometimes the world needs a Devil to oppose failed policy (thusly, the name Satan refers to The Adversary), needs a Lil' Hitler to get the masses motivated for the future, a Vampire to relieve the masses of large amounts of money they aren't using anyway, and even a Pirate to make the world his oyster!

The changing of my avatar and sig only goes to show my versatility and willingness to change! I am not afraid to admit to making mistakes, for I am only human. Heck, I even answered the first question in the platform provided, of which you totally avoided (like a bridge to nowhere)...

[Dancing Mustard]

*Muted hum of crowd approval*

*polite semi-audible heckling*

[InkL0sed]

Oh boy! They both believe in soccer! I can't choose...

[Sentinel XIV]

Pirate... I mean Hitl... I mean Anti-Luns is starting to win me over.

[DaGip]

My new campaign add (you can also click on my banner):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM9PwTUj2l4

[luns101]

1. Katie Couric: would you bang her?

This is a totally unnecessary question first of all. But since we're on the subject, let me take this opportunity to remind everyone that the problem of teenage promiscuity is the fault of Anti-Luns. Before turning into Der Fuhrer Luns or Pirate Luns, DaGip was Satanic Luns...do we all remember when his avatar had him as a devil?!!

This video that my campaign found shows DaGip going into a typical American high school trying to manipulate the youth. No wonder we have such a problem in our schools. It's all DaGip's fault.

2. The general discussion forum: is it necessary?

Yes. Is DaGip necessary...no

3. What would luns/antiluns do for me? How will this affect the forum? Can I sell it on eBay?

This is what is wrong with America and to a lesser extent - Conquer Club. What will Luns or AntiLuns do for me? Do for yourselves...you've got abilities so use them! Ask not what your forum can do for you...ask what you can do to keep DaGip out of the forum!

When you see a newbie in need because he doesn't understand a certain map then that's the time to crush him and put him out of his misery. Don't give him advice! That only prolongs the agony. If you get beat by a fellow CC member then put them on your foe's list. How else will they learn? If someone offers you an alliance during one of your games...break it without warning! All this "good game" stuff is annoying in the game chat as well...knock it off. We don't need to look to a political leader to do these kinds of things...we need to look to ourselves. Come on CC, take up the mantle.

I'd rather lose an election than see anyone here make a profit on E-Bay.

4. Should soccer be considered a real sport?

Like I said before...I wouldn't say soccer is a real sport, but it is real. I do realize the need for Europeans to riot before, during, and after the games. After all, you never know when you could be hired as an extra for the next sequel to 28 Days Later.

5. Who is your least favorite stooge, and why?

...because he makes me nervous with those eyes and that Global Warming routine he's been doing for the last couple of years. Haha funny joke, Al. Time for some new material.

6. Have you ever "cranked dat?"

I've gone on the record many times to express my desire to discuss that off the record.

7. Why shouldn't we vote for your opponent?

When that phone in the White House rings at 2:00 a.m. because Greenland just decided to invade Iceland...who do you want answering it? Do you want someone who is currently experiencing Multiple Lunsinality Disorder, or someone who is calmly assertive and willing to broadcast Vanilla Ice videos throughout the world in order to force world leaders to get along. It's their choice....Ice Ice Baby or peace. I think we all know they wouldn't be willing to cross that line. I'll call their bluff.

The U.S. was the first and only country willing to expose our enemies to The Carpenter's Greatest Hits. We now have the power to deter other countries from fighting with The BackStreet Boys, Milli Vanilli, or Ashley Simpson.

AntiLuns is afraid of using our vast reserves of terrible pop music and instead wants to use waterboarding. You won't get that from me.

What dirty secrets can you reveal?

AntiLuns during one of his "moods"

Not really a secret but there's new people here on CC who need to know that when selecting their president. Do you really want someone like this representing you before player of other Risk-type websites? I think not.

8. Are you a Jack Kennedy?

No, I'm really Elvis. But Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. We both were residents at the Shady Rest senior home in Texas. Together, we teammed up to stop demons like AntiLuns a few years ago. I will bring that same experience to the White House should I get your vote.

9. If your opponent were on TV with you during this debate, how would he look right now?

10. Give us a closing statement that answers the following question: "Srsly?"

"We have to have the courage to stay the same"

"I actually voted for the $700 billion bailout before I voted against it"

"Guiscard was a friend of mine...you're no Guiscard"

[Jenos Ridan]

And thus sounded the death knell of DaGip......

God may he burn in hellrest his soul!*

*pulled from a scene from The Postman

[Juan_Bottom]

DaGips still in this, srsly!

[DaGip]

1. Katie Couric: would you bang her?

This is a totally unnecessary question first of all. But since we're on the subject, let me take this opportunity to remind everyone that the problem of teenage promiscuity is the fault of Anti-Luns. Before turning into Der Fuhrer Luns or Pirate Luns, DaGip was Satanic Luns...do we all remember when his avatar had him as a devil?!!

It seems my colleague has went straight for the jugular...(on the moderator, nonetheless). Now, doggoneit, Lunso (do you mind if I call you Lunso?), you know that this statement is just not true. You and I both know that horny teenagers have been around since Adam and Eve walked with the dinosaurs, dontchyaknow? I would say that teenage promiscuity is a direct consequence of the society and family in which they live. I am hardly to blame for this as I am very antisocial and anti-family. And as for my changing avatars, I am only using that as a means of freedom of speech. We still have freedom of speech, right? My intent was to draw attention to the $700 Billion that was stolen from the American people for a lost cause on a devastated market due to corporate greed, and how we are rewarding the criminals who did this to OUR country!



Fuehrer Luns symbolized the nationalist socialistic money grab that will eventually destroy the middle class, and make us MORE dependent on the government. As you know, I am a conservative, and from my point of view, this solution (I would call it more a problem) will not work.



Vampire Luns is a symbol of Lunso's support for these blood thirsty, vulture-like tactics of the neoconservatives that are running the boat. Lunso's blind support of these criminals is what is really appalling. A man that says he is a "true conservative" but yet believes it is okay for his neoconservative overlords to spend billions in Iraq every week AND pay off Wall Street for crimes in which the American People SHOULD NOT AND WILL NOT be held accountable for!



Now, Pirate Luns (as per my current manifestation) is my attempt to draw attention to America's need for rebellion! I don't know if another election will fix the damage that has been done? Rebellion might be our only solution, and I am just trying to get that through, Lunso's head. Now, how that rebellion takes shape is another story. Nonviolent civil unrest? Or do we just go straight to the second amendment before that is lost in the annals of time? Since the neoconservatives are busy destroying this country, I believe that they must be stopped BEFORE they destroy the World! There for my slogan: World First!



Now the original AntiLuns/Satanic Luns was the first manifestation of this AntiLuns movement. I created him on the day the House passed the $700 billion (more like a trillion when all is said and done) to bail out Wall Street. It was the manifestation initially of how I felt as an American. Angry, uncaring, hopeless...the culmination of eight years of tyranny by the REAL Satanists! The REAL adversaries!

But now I do care! I care enough to try to bring at least ONE Republican back home! Am I still angry? Yeah, of course I am, but that anger is culminating a new vision of hope! Hope that does not rest with my avatars, but hope that rests in the message of Liberty!

The manifestation of the AntiLuns was to draw attention to the dangers of continuing down this Bridge to Nowhere! And it seems it has worked quite well, as I have gotten the attention of CC's so-called biggest conservative in the room. I need to bring Lunso back to his roots. I need to bring him back home. Lunso, you know your heart doesn't belong with the neoconservative crowd. It is time for real change. Let it start here, in the CC forums.

(I would like to add that I just heard an earthquake at 3:30 CST. Look towards RUSSIA/CHINA for a large EARTHQUAKE SOMETIME TODAY!!!!)

This video that my campaign found shows DaGip going into a typical American high school trying to manipulate the youth. No wonder we have such a problem in our schools. It's all DaGip's fault.

I am sorry, but I don't know how destroying the school system is my fault. I haven't been in power over the past eight years. Matter of fact, I have never been in a position of power at all. I would say the problem with the school system is that the Federal Government got involved. And as for that video being of me...HA! I could never fit inside that jump suit! I weigh over three hundred pounds! Nice try though, Lunso.

2. The general discussion forum: is it necessary?

Yes. Is DaGip necessary...no

I believe that General Discussion is a personal choice, and therefore every American should have the opportunity to discuss things generally. And on the greater scale of things, DaGip is not necessary...on the other hand, neither is my colleague.

3. What would luns/antiluns do for me? How will this affect the forum? Can I sell it on eBay?

I can safely say that if elected I would put more individual responsibility upon each Club Member for winning their own games. I am not going to hand over games to people, that is quite against CC rules. The greatest thing that I can offer is a small seed of hope planted in the firm ground of freedom, and water it with change. Only then will we be able to taste the fruit from the Tree of Liberty!

And selling the fruit from the Tree of Liberty on eBay? That is quite a despicable thought, as Liberty and Freedom are jealous things...

4. Should soccer be considered a real sport?

I believed I answered this question already, as stated above.

5. Who is your least favorite stooge, and why?

Henry Paulson, because the man wrote a law and isn't even a congress person OR a senator. Yet we let him write the foundation for the Bail Out, and then we let him go into secret meetings with all his buddies to dish out all of the hard earned money of ALL Americans?

I could see blaming Al Gore IF he was elected president, but, however, it is little Fontlerbush who screwed us all over in the end. Time for us to start putting World First, and quit coming up with excuses for all the stooges in power today!

6. Have you ever "cranked dat?"

I tried it one time, and didn't like it, and didn't inhale, and never tried it again...

7. Why shouldn't we vote for your opponent?

Quite evident in the fact that Lunso still supports the NeoCon agenda, which in turn is destroying this great nation.

What dirty secrets can you reveal?

AntiLuns during one of his "moods"

Not really a secret but there's new people here on CC who need to know that when selecting their president. Do you really want someone like this representing you before player of other Risk-type websites? I think not.

Well, just as you said, it is no secret. I made that video as a request to a friend in General Discussion. I would like to point out that I am very helpful and willing to cooperate with members who want to try to express themselves, such as this song Jiminski wrote and wanted me to come up with the music for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxNgooER_pg&NR=1

I believe that that video shows that I am willing to work with people from all over the world and from different cultures to spread peace and harmony in a very turbulent and unharmonius political atmosphere brought to you by Lunso's NeoCon masters. This video shows my commitment to a World First ideology versus one that puts Wall Street first.

As for any secrets on Lunso, just that I heard he wears Elmo slippers when he gets up in the morning and slips on his robe.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=45792&p=1189072&hilit=elmo+slippers#p1189072

8. Are you a Jack Kennedy?

No, he's dead...

9. If your opponent were on TV with you during this debate, how would he look right now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJhwfC5n_GM

10. Give us a closing statement that answers the following question: "Srsly?"

"We have to have the courage to stay the same"

"I actually voted for the $700 billion bailout before I voted against it"

"Guiscard was a friend of mine...you're no Guiscard"

I don't even know what the fuck you guys are talking about. Speak some friggin' English, for Pete's Sake!

[Iliad]

Kyrgystan. Not China. Not Russia. Some hole of a country in Asia

[DaGip]

Kyrgystan. Not China. Not Russia. Some hole of a country in Asia

Still...I heard it, just like I heard the one in China that killed thousands. I hate this super power I got...it's a blessing and a curse!

[Snorri1234]

DaGip has my vote!

[DaGip]

DaGip has my vote!

It was my Earthquake Super Sense, wasn't it?

[Snorri1234]

DaGip has my vote!

It was my Earthquake Super Sense, wasn't it?

Nah, I just realised luns was worse than you.

Though that earthquake sense did help to swing me. I believe any president needs to know when an earthquacke is about to happen to respond in a correct way.

[luns101]

Haha...DaGip got Snorri's endorsement. I am guaranteed electoral victory!

DaGip has yet to release his psych eval records proving he has Multiple Lunsinality Disorder