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Re: Barack Obama is not a US citizen

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:06 am

mpjh wrote:
heavycola wrote:
mpjh wrote:Jezzz, guess we are going to get our first non-citizen president.


It will be almost five years to the day since california elected its first ever movie character. The voters who believed they were electing a cyborg weren't in the least bothered by his non-americanness.
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby pimpdave on Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:19 am

jonesthecurl wrote:Apparently Joe the Plumber's name is Sam. And he's not a licensed plumber.



And he owes Ohio $1200 in back taxes. Did you listen to All Things Considered last night too? I can't stand NPR during the pledge drives. I give every year, but I hate having to listen to their drives on the radio. Oh well.
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby ksslemp on Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:36 am

pimpdave wrote:Barack Obama = United States of Fiscally-Responsible Diplomacy-First Federal Government & Win




John McCain = United State of Fail


To use the term fiscally-responsible when referring to a toe-tag liberal is absurd!
John McCains best policy is a freeze on new federal spending... its the only way to stop these friggin' politicians from continuing to spend like drunken sailors!
The kool-aid drinking liberals LOVE to use the term "the BUSH economy", when anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that congress is more to blame than BUSH.
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby oVo on Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:45 am

AND... the Republicans held the MAJORITY in both houses from 1994 to 2006.

I haven't figured out which is the bigger out of control nutty label for a politician,
LIBERAL or MAVERICK?
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby Snorri1234 on Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:53 am

Iliad wrote:
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got tonkaed wrote:if your interested jbrettlip later on tonight or weekend (im on the other end of the globe) id be happy to put up the candidates positions on 3 different issues which i feel make part of a case for showing that obama is a better national interest vote than mccain. The issues deal with defense/national security, energy policy and the economy each of which are considered fairly important issues in the campaign. If youd like to talk about a different issue thas fine as well, but i believe you would be a bit more persuasive if you talked about things like why mccain is a better vote instead of parroting redistributionist statements.


issues? ISSUES? Good god man this is about so much more than issues! This is about electing a communist kenyan suicide bomber to the highest office!

And he's a muslim!! And like his preacher is like crazy!!


Well since he's a muslim I don't think it really matters that his preachers is crazy.
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby ksslemp on Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:07 pm

oVo wrote:AND... the Republicans held the MAJORITY in both houses from 1994 to 2006.

I haven't figured out which is the bigger out of control nutty label for a politician,
LIBERAL or MAVERICK?


Let me help you out!
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby barbie on Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:15 pm

I didn't write this, but there is some very good research involved, so I thought I would pass it along.

This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives me crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking ‘where did the money come from for Obama’. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama’s life. Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. ‘Barry’ (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a ’round the world’ trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family. My question: where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It’s not cheap to say the least! Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000 a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York. By ‘chance’ he met Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named ‘Entrepreneur of the Decade’ by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association’. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented ‘Rezar’ which is Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with ’seed money’ for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko. Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama’s boss. She is now Obama’s chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy? On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley, advisor to Obama, was ’sacked’ after the press found out he was having regular contacts with ‘Hamas’, which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama’s visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will ‘Take care of things’.. Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that were born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those ’small’ Internet campaign contributions for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East? And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on ‘This Week’ with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, ‘My Muslim faith’. When questioned, ‘he made a mistake’. Some mistake! All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008. Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, why haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this? A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - ‘Beware of the enemy from within’!!!
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby Juan_Bottom on Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:19 pm

barbie wrote:I didn't write this, but there is some very good research involved, so I thought I would pass it along.

This election has me very worried. So many things to consider. About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than. I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another. I must say this drives me crazy. But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with. About six months ago, I started thinking ‘where did the money come from for Obama’. I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight. We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama’s life. Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California. He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. ‘Barry’ (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan. During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a ’round the world’ trip. Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate’s family, then off to Africa to visit his father’s family. My question: where did he get the money for this trip? Nether I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college. When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York. It is at this time he wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry. Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia? It’s not cheap to say the least! Where did he get money for tuition? Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000 a year. Why Chicago? Why not New York? He was already living in New York. By ‘chance’ he met Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago. Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year. Rezko, was named ‘Entrepreneur of the Decade’ by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association’. About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School. Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School? Where did he get the money for Law School? More student loans? After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down. But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what? They represented ‘Rezar’ which is Rezko’s firm. Rezko was one of Obama’s first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago. In 2003, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with ’seed money’ for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price). With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property? On the same day Rezko’s wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama’s new home was purchased. Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko. Now, we have Obama running for President. Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama’s boss. She is now Obama’s chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first. Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran! Do we see a pattern here? Or am I going crazy? On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley, advisor to Obama, was ’sacked’ after the press found out he was having regular contacts with ‘Hamas’, which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran. This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama’s visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will ‘Take care of things’.. Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that were born in Pakistan? They are in charge of all those ’small’ Internet campaign contributions for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East? And the final bit of news. On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on ‘This Week’ with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, ‘My Muslim faith’. When questioned, ‘he made a mistake’. Some mistake! All of the above information I got on line. If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008. Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, why haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this? A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - ‘Beware of the enemy from within’!!!
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Holy crap, you and I get into the same stuff....
The answer BTW is somehow the trillateral commission... which actually funded BOTH campaigns at the start...
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:46 pm

pimpdave wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Apparently Joe the Plumber's name is Sam. And he's not a licensed plumber.



And he owes Ohio $1200 in back taxes. Did you listen to All Things Considered last night too? I can't stand NPR during the pledge drives. I give every year, but I hate having to listen to their drives on the radio. Oh well.


No, I got this from http://www.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_elections_2008/7675278.stm. I still tend to go to the bbc for news.
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby Snorri1234 on Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:52 pm

barbie wrote: If I found out all this information on my own, why haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this?


IT IS A CONSPIRACY!!!!!


Or it's just not true, which sounds more likely.
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby jonesthecurl on Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:01 pm

MInd you, if true, it shows he's got much more experience at international affairs than people have said.
Voters would sem to have a choice after all - (a) Bush-clone, friend of governmental terrorists that blew up the Two Towers, or (b) closet Muslim terrorist, friend of foreigners who blew up the Two Towers.
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Re: Barack Obama is not a US citizen

Postby Snorri1234 on Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:20 pm

WHO IS BARACK OBAMA?

There are many things people do not know about BARACK OBAMA. It is every American's duty to read this message and pass it along to all of their friends and loved ones.

Barack Obama wears a FLAG PIN at all times. Even in the shower.

Barack Obama says the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE every time he sees an American flag. He also ends every sentence by saying, "WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL." Click here for video of Obama quietly mouthing the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE in his sleep.

A tape exists of Michelle Obama saying the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE at a conference on PATRIOTISM.

Every weekend, Barack and Michelle take their daughters HUNTING.

Barack Obama is a PATRIOTIC AMERICAN. He has one HAND over his HEART at all times. He occasionally switches when one arm gets tired, which is almost never because he is STRONG.

Barack Obama has the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE tattooed on his stomach. It's upside-down, so he can read it while doing sit-ups.

There's only one artist on Barack Obama's iPod: FRANCIS SCOTT KEY.

Barack Obama is a DEVOUT CHRISTIAN. His favorite book is the BIBLE, which he has memorized. His name means HE WHO LOVES JESUS in the ancient language of Aramaic. He is PROUD that Jesus was an American.

Barack Obama goes to church every morning. He goes to church every afternoon. He goes to church every evening. He is IN CHURCH RIGHT NOW.

Barack Obama's new airplane includes a conference room, a kitchen, and a MEGACHURCH.

Barack Obama's skin is the color of AMERICAN SOIL.

Barack Obama buys AMERICAN STUFF. He owns a FORD, a BASEBALL TEAM, and a COMPUTER HE BUILT HIMSELF FROM AMERICAN PARTS. He travels mostly by FORKLIFT.

Barack Obama says that Americans cling to GUNS and RELIGION because they are AWESOME.
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Re: Barack Obama is not a US citizen

Postby ksslemp on Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:34 pm

I have to admit........
Very Funny! Thanks for brightening up my day :-)

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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby barbie on Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:05 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
barbie wrote: If I found out all this information on my own, why haven’t all of our ‘intelligent’ members of the press been reporting this?


IT IS A CONSPIRACY!!!!!


Or it's just not true, which sounds more likely.


Well if it wasn't true why did he write about it in his own book?
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Re: Barack Obama is not a US citizen

Postby PopeBenXVI on Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:14 pm

Juan, You miss my whole point. I am not voting for mccain I am mearly pointing out all the questionable affiliations Obama has to which you seem not to be concerned with at all. Just because I Rip on Obama being a socialist does not mean I am defending Mccain. Mccain is better but not good enough in my book. Obama is a radical.

And Wright is a racist and so is Obama. Obama's own book quotes "A white man's Greed Leaves a world in need" That he said was one of his favorite quotes from his father. If that speech were reversed would that not be racist? Have you seen any video's of Wright cursing out America?

What are you talking about?
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Re: Barack Obama is not a US citizen

Postby Simon Viavant on Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:30 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:WHO IS BARACK OBAMA?

There are many things people do not know about BARACK OBAMA. It is every American's duty to read this message and pass it along to all of their friends and loved ones.

Barack Obama wears a FLAG PIN at all times. Even in the shower.

Barack Obama says the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE every time he sees an American flag. He also ends every sentence by saying, "WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL." Click here for video of Obama quietly mouthing the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE in his sleep.

A tape exists of Michelle Obama saying the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE at a conference on PATRIOTISM.

Every weekend, Barack and Michelle take their daughters HUNTING.

Barack Obama is a PATRIOTIC AMERICAN. He has one HAND over his HEART at all times. He occasionally switches when one arm gets tired, which is almost never because he is STRONG.

Barack Obama has the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE tattooed on his stomach. It's upside-down, so he can read it while doing sit-ups.

There's only one artist on Barack Obama's iPod: FRANCIS SCOTT KEY.

Barack Obama is a DEVOUT CHRISTIAN. His favorite book is the BIBLE, which he has memorized. His name means HE WHO LOVES JESUS in the ancient language of Aramaic. He is PROUD that Jesus was an American.

Barack Obama goes to church every morning. He goes to church every afternoon. He goes to church every evening. He is IN CHURCH RIGHT NOW.

Barack Obama's new airplane includes a conference room, a kitchen, and a MEGACHURCH.

Barack Obama's skin is the color of AMERICAN SOIL.

Barack Obama buys AMERICAN STUFF. He owns a FORD, a BASEBALL TEAM, and a COMPUTER HE BUILT HIMSELF FROM AMERICAN PARTS. He travels mostly by FORKLIFT.

Barack Obama says that Americans cling to GUNS and RELIGION because they are AWESOME.

You listen to mindless liberal propaganda all day like a zombie. Here are the real facts about BARACK OBAMA.

He's a MUSLIM and a RACIST and believes in the extermination of WHITES and CHRISTIANS.

He's parts of a gay threesome including BILL AYERS AND REV. WRIGHT, with OSAMA BIN LADEN (Obama's namesake's btw) occasionally joining in.

He's a terrorist and is in league with SATAN.

He doesn't shop at WALMART.

He admitted in his book to his dislike of MCDONANLDS and DISNEY.

He does the NAZI SALUTE in his sleep.
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Re: Barack Obama is not a US citizen

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:22 am

PopeBenXVI wrote:I am not voting for mccain I am mearly pointing out all the questionable affiliations Obama has to which you seem not to be concerned with at all.

Again, not an Obama supporter.
And I am quiet rightfully pointing out how hypocritical it is to point out all the "questionable affiliations" of the competition without also announcing your own candidiate's.
(I would also like to point out that the FBI announced today(first day of the official investigation) that they have "nothing to tell" about ACORN)

PopeBenXVI wrote: Just because I Rip on Obama being a socialist does not mean I am defending Mccain. Mccain is better but not good enough in my book. Obama is a radical.

Look at this nation!!! Take a look back 5-10-15-50 Years ago! This nation is not recognizable! This IS the radical nation! The real RADICAL solution would be to turn this place back into the country that it is in all of our hearts.

But the real radicals will never be president. You've been given a false choice.

PopeBenXVI wrote:And Wright is a racist and so is Obama. Obama's own book quotes "A white man's Greed Leaves a world in need" That he said was one of his favorite quotes from his father. If that speech were reversed would that not be racist? Have you seen any video's of Wright cursing out America?

Yes.
I also memorized that famous qoute from Einstein: "God doesn't play dice with the universe." But Einstein was not a Christian, in the same way neither is Wright a traitor. He used it in the same context that I myself have.Ihave said "f*ck this country" (see my "F the vets thread" in the NYB). Wright believes that the government purposefuully infected Africans with Aids to control third world populations. I can understand him cursing out the country or the whites that did it. I understand his actions, I only question his judgement. I have listened to wright on the internet, and on internet radio shows.

PopeBenXVI wrote:What are you talking about?

I have a personal rule to only open my mouth if I do know what I'm talking about. I like Reverend Wright, but I dislike Obama, dislike McCain, and despise Americans who choose their camp and shun people who are different. I never judge someone that I do not know.
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:27 am

barbie wrote:Well if it wasn't true why did he write about it in his own book?


Well if it's not true you should show us! :lol:
Take 50 hours and look this stuff up! :P
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Re: Barack Obama is not John McCain

Postby joecoolfrog on Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:33 am

ksslemp wrote:
pimpdave wrote:Barack Obama = United States of Fiscally-Responsible Diplomacy-First Federal Government & Win




John McCain = United State of Fail


To use the term fiscally-responsible when referring to a toe-tag liberal is absurd!
John McCains best policy is a freeze on new federal spending... its the only way to stop these friggin' politicians from continuing to spend like drunken sailors!
The kool-aid drinking liberals LOVE to use the term "the BUSH economy", when anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that congress is more to blame than BUSH.


Yes the financial meltdown was all the fault of liberals, nothing to do with the Republican obsession with 'small' government and doing away with 'petty' regulations #-o
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Prophet Yaweh Endorses Obama

Postby DaGip on Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:26 pm

Obama will certainly win now with friends like this! I love Prophet Yahweh.

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Re: Prophet Yaweh Endorses Obama

Postby InkL0sed on Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:03 pm

"Mistranslated" is actually wrong. It goes from Yahweh to Iehova for good phonetic reason - and it's called transliteration :roll:
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Re: Prophet Yaweh Endorses Obama

Postby brooksieb on Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:06 pm

ALLAHU AKHBAR!

(that means god is great, A.K.A. i'm going to blow up the bus, so you better run)
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Re: Prophet Yaweh Endorses Obama

Postby DaGip on Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:41 am

brooksieb wrote:ALLAHU AKHBAR!

(that means god is great, A.K.A. i'm going to blow up the bus, so you better run)


Actually, Allahu Akbar is known as the takbir, which is to say the act of proclaiming that God is the greatest.


Not only is the takbir proclaimed during a Jihad, but also it is proclaimed at the Muslim call to prayer. The usages are defined in Wiki:

This phrase is recited by Muslims in numerous different situations. For example, when they are happy or wish to express approval, when they want to praise a speaker, during battles, and even times of extreme stress or euphoria.

The phrase is said during each stage of both obligatory prayers, which are supposed to be performed five times a day, and supererogatory prayers, which are performed at will. The Muslim call to prayer, or adhan, and to commence the prayer, or iqama, also contains the phrase, which is heard in cities all over the Muslim world.

Note that takbīr (تَكْبِير) is only the name of the expression, while the phrase itself is "Allahu Akbar". In the Islamic world, instead of applause, often someone will shout "takbir" and the crowd will respond "Allahu Akbar" in chorus.


Now, I don't believe the Prophet Yahweh is a Muslim (I can tell, because he calls himself the Prophet and in Islam, there can be no more prophets as Muhammad [pbuh] was the last prophet Allah sent to warn humanity before the end of the world). So, in accordance to Islam, Muslims would consider the False Prophet Yahweh as an unbeliever that is allied with the Rebellious Djinn that followed Iblis after the creation of Adam and Eve. Muslims do not, in particular, believe in UFOs, ghosts, or demons. They see these phenomena as aspects of the fiery race of Djinn that inhabit the world with humans side by side. Some Djinn keep to themselves and practice Islam and make their home inside of Mosques, while other Djinn despise humans and seek to make trouble or, in some instances, harm them. Most Djinn that are not converted to Islam are misguided in the same ways as humans who have not accepted Islam.

They might appear as a mist, or an orb of light. They may call out a person's name or make noises. They might open doors, move or throw objects, or even touch humans. If they do not harm humans, but only play games or tricks on them, they are known as Amir and usually they are harmless, and if invited to Islam, they may even stop their disturbances all together.

Now, if the Djinn does these things to harm humans, they are called Shaytan (one that opposes man or Satan in the Christian belief).

If a Shaytan goes beyond this, they are known as Ifrit; and this is what most Muslims would consider UFOs. Super powerful Shaytans that are bent on destroying humanity out of jealousy, and some humans actually are helping the Ifrit and Shaytans along!

So I think that Muslims would be a little hesitant in associating themselves with the False Prophet Yahweh.

Here is the False Prophet telling us of the next UFO appearance over Las Vegas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qEnPXnfCu4

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Postby Simon Viavant on Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:12 pm

This has gone too far. I have lost all respect for Obama as his character has gradually degraded. First Rev. Wright, then Bill Ayers, and now this. As a ten year old, Obama was in the same city as Edward Abbey for a week. They were actually WITHIN THE SAME BUILDING. Edward Abbey is considered the father of ecoterrorism. And as a ten year old, Obama was IN THE SAME ROOM AS HIM FOR OVER TEN MINUTES! This is clearly bad judgement. He made a choice to be in that room, and someone with that kind of bad judgement and relationships should not be our president. Obama has a clear history of interacting with terrorists. And to make it even worse, snooty liberal elites wave it away. Obama tries to smooth it over and ignore it, trying to talk about the economy and foreign policy and clearly ignoring the important things in this race.
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Postby strike wolf on Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:33 pm

Simon Viavant wrote:This has gone too far. I have lost all respect for Obama as his character has gradually degraded. First Rev. Wright, then Bill Ayers, and now this. As a ten year old, Obama was in the same city as Edward Abbey for a week. They were actually WITHIN THE SAME BUILDING. Edward Abbey is considered the father of ecoterrorism. And as a ten year old, Obama was IN THE SAME ROOM AS HIM FOR OVER TEN MINUTES! This is clearly bad judgement. He made a choice to be in that room, and someone with that kind of bad judgement and relationships should not be our president. Obama has a clear history of interacting with terrorists. And to make it even worse, snooty liberal elites wave it away. Obama tries to smooth it over and ignore it, trying to talk about the economy and foreign policy and clearly ignoring the important things in this race.


So you are basing Obama's current judgement skills based on something he was involved in for a relatively short period of time when he was just 10 years old?
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