And so the Cheating Continues [block]

[Gold Knight]

Furthermore, scott and clapper have been attempting to flame me and there in order to divert off the topic, owen. They have intentionally made it their point to instigate issue with me hoping that I would forget about the reason for this thread.

um, no they haven't... scott just answered your allegations using language that you called him... far from flaming, well within the rules, and kind of funny for scott... again, as i said to hulmey. just because you see a word, does not mean you are being flamed. you have to read the word within it's context and comprehend it's usage. you know, reading comprehension!!! nobody is flaming you. and you are handling yourself quite well!! like i said earlier, your self-deprecating humour is killing me!!! now grab your thesaraus and have at 'em again, kid!!!-0

by joecoolfrog on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:28 pm

Ah the 14 year old is whining again, did one of your zits burst and upset you

one of the more blatant flames

Well if I were 14 and had a zit burst, I'd be fairly upset, so I'd say its an appropriate question...

I really dont see who cares this much about score that they would monitor another's, if he is "cheating" this good and this "cheater" isn't proclaimed as "cheating", then maybe everyone would be smart to "cheat" as well as Scott has.

[maxatstuy]

Furthermore, scott and clapper have been attempting to flame me and there in order to divert off the topic, owen. They have intentionally made it their point to instigate issue with me hoping that I would forget about the reason for this thread.

um, no they haven't... scott just answered your allegations using language that you called him... far from flaming, well within the rules, and kind of funny for scott... again, as i said to hulmey. just because you see a word, does not mean you are being flamed. you have to read the word within it's context and comprehend it's usage. you know, reading comprehension!!! nobody is flaming you. and you are handling yourself quite well!! like i said earlier, your self-deprecating humour is killing me!!! now grab your thesaraus and have at 'em again, kid!!!-0

by joecoolfrog on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:28 pm

Ah the 14 year old is whining again, did one of your zits burst and upset you

one of the more blatant flames

Well if I were 14 and had a zit burst, I'd be fairly upset, so I'd say its an appropriate question...

I really dont see who cares this much about score that they would monitor another's, if he is "cheating" this good and this "cheater" isn't proclaimed as "cheating", then maybe everyone would be smart to "cheat" as well as Scott has.

you should propose that idea to krusher, the person who I suppose scott got his technique from. The only difference is that bruce is taking it up himself to throw games for scott and scott joins them intentionally knowing bruce will do this, while krusher specifically asked people to throw the games to him. Considering I am not the only person who has witnessed scott cheat, I would have disagree though and say it isnt a very successful method, as if it was successful, he shouldnt have been caught.

[joecoolfrog]

sigh... so max watches another game... what else is new... I lost 19 vs 11 for a kill... scott gets it... big deal.. nothing to see here.. move on ...

so you soften the opponent for Scott to finish. good team work !

So Mr Expert how many 6-8 player singles games have you won in the last year, try to stick to subjects that you have some sort of clue about

pretty tough to do when you form alliances to beat me....how gay

"lets eliminate JR so we can play another game to determine the winner of this game" ....gay

instead of playing the game according to the options that were created before you join, your cried like a little bitch when the game took to long to play and form alliances to beat me.

unless your dad posted that for you? Well, im sure he doesnt have access to your account so I doubt it

Interesting that a father who is so self absorbed that he wont let his own son join the site ( in case it embarasses him ) feels free to comment on my boy. Comic is hugely respected on this site wheras you are widely pitied for your blinkered approach to pretty much everything , you are an awful singles player who is happy to cry , lie and make excuses rather than admit it and deflate your oversized ego.....pathetic !

[yeti_c]

So out of curiousity - since when does someones age being lower than yours mean that they shouldn't be listened to??

I suspect that 15 (almost 16) might be above average age for an internet gaming site??

C.

[comic boy]

So out of curiousity - since when does someones age being lower than yours mean that they shouldn't be listened to??

I suspect that 15 (almost 16) might be above average age for an internet gaming site??

C.

its not the age its the maturity level, constantly act like a spoiled little kid and it becomes an issue. He had what amounted to a teenage crush on Scott and since being brushed off has thrown his toys out of his pram, I went from being somebody who he greatly admired ( he kept sending fawning pms ) to the butt of his abuse because I disagreed with his methods. He is acting like a child and deserves to be treated like a child, the same would be true if he were 25.

[yeti_c]

So out of curiousity - since when does someones age being lower than yours mean that they shouldn't be listened to??

I suspect that 15 (almost 16) might be above average age for an internet gaming site??

C.

its not the age its the maturity level, constantly act like a spoiled little kid and it becomes an issue. He had what amounted to a teenage crush on Scott and since being brushed off has thrown his toys out of his pram, I went from being somebody who he greatly admired ( he kept sending fawning pms ) to the butt of his abuse because I disagreed with his methods. He is acting like a child and deserves to be treated like a child, the same would be true if he were 25.

All that may well be true - but it's not the way this thread reads...

The thread reads...

1.) Accusation
2.) Go away you child you're only 14 your opinion doesn't matter.

C.

[comic boy]

So out of curiousity - since when does someones age being lower than yours mean that they shouldn't be listened to??

I suspect that 15 (almost 16) might be above average age for an internet gaming site??

C.

its not the age its the maturity level, constantly act like a spoiled little kid and it becomes an issue. He had what amounted to a teenage crush on Scott and since being brushed off has thrown his toys out of his pram, I went from being somebody who he greatly admired ( he kept sending fawning pms ) to the butt of his abuse because I disagreed with his methods. He is acting like a child and deserves to be treated like a child, the same would be true if he were 25.

All that may well be true - but it's not the way this thread reads...

The thread reads...

1.) Accusation
2.) Go away you child you're only 14 your opinion doesn't matter.

C.

Reading glasses at the repairers again are they

[Frop]

All that may well be true - but it's not the way this thread reads...

The thread reads...

1.) Accusation
2.) Go away you child you're only 14 your opinion doesn't matter.

C.

Reading glasses at the repairers again are they

I'm with yeti on this one, comic. Sure, max is a special kid and certainly has ulterior motives in this case, but that doesn't mean he's not entitled to having his accusation reviewed like any other customer.

[joecoolfrog]

All that may well be true - but it's not the way this thread reads...

The thread reads...

1.) Accusation
2.) Go away you child you're only 14 your opinion doesn't matter.

C.

Reading glasses at the repairers again are they

I'm with yeti on this one, comic. Sure, max is a special kid and certainly has ulterior motives in this case, but that doesn't mean he's not entitled to having his accusation reviewed like any other customer.

Well for a start its not posted in the correct place and no form has been filled in so its never going to be reviewed. Secondly it is exactly the same accusation that was made before and judged to be without foundation, it is spite and malice and nothing more. Seriously should a member be entitled to regularly slander others for no other reason than to deflect criticism away from his own unsavoury behaviour ?

[clapper011]

which is why I moved this here...so someone can look over this..and decide if in fact scott and bruce are "cheaters" or if max is being abusive towards other players.

[yeti_c]

Well for a start its not posted in the correct place and no form has been filled in so its never going to be reviewed. Secondly it is exactly the same accusation that was made before and judged to be without foundation, it is spite and malice and nothing more. Seriously should a member be entitled to regularly slander others for no other reason than to deflect criticism away from his own unsavoury behaviour ?

Some of this may well be true also - but are you not being a bit hypocritical here?

I have read some fairly obvious libelous comments in this thread.

C.

PS - just in case you didn't catch it - Libel != Slander.

[Blitzaholic]

I have played my fair share with scotty and never found him to be a cheat, yes the many games with bruce in them, seems overwhelming, but scotty likes to verbally abuse as part as of his bullying tactics of winning, only the weak minded cave in and bow to him and his rageful antics, but this is not cheating. if the mods looked at it and let it go, why cant you maxi-pad?


what are you asking? that they be blocked? I am sure the mods are just and fair. You know something, when a person is usually guilty of something, they tend to yell out and get many to focus on others to get the heat off themselves.

[maxatstuy]

I have played my fair share with scotty and never found him to be a cheat, yes the many games with bruce in them, seems overwhelming, but scotty likes to verbally abuse as part as of his bullying tactics of winning, only the weak minded cave in and bow to him and his rageful antics, but this is not cheating. if the mods looked at it and let it go, why cant you maxi-pad?


what are you asking? that they be blocked? I am sure the mods are just and fair. You know something, when a person is usually guilty of something, they tend to yell out and get many to focus on others to get the heat off themselves.

that is not true at all...I have no issue with mentioning my threads and if anything, me posting about scott brings more attention to the C&A threads made about me. I posted this thread not because I dislike scott, even though that my have contributed to my decision to post; I posted because there was no rational reasoning for why scott and bruce were let off the hook for their blatant abuse of the game. You play sequential games and while the games you play has no effect on scott, it does effect your perception of him. Bruce has gifted more kills than he has made in 8-player freestyle speed games. The very concept that scott has lost close to two thousand points in the two weeks bruce was away shows that scott has obviously become reliant on bruces gifting games and I find it amazing how, despite the trends which occur in scotts score, (scott with bruce, scott makes 3700 points, scott without, he loses 2000, bruce comes back he starts to win again,) the mods dont seem to recognize this as cheating.

So out of curiousity - since when does someones age being lower than yours mean that they shouldn't be listened to??

I suspect that 15 (almost 16) might be above average age for an internet gaming site??

C.

its not the age its the maturity level, constantly act like a spoiled little kid and it becomes an issue. He had what amounted to a teenage crush on Scott and since being brushed off has thrown his toys out of his pram, I went from being somebody who he greatly admired ( he kept sending fawning pms ) to the butt of his abuse because I disagreed with his methods. He is acting like a child and deserves to be treated like a child, the same would be true if he were 25.

Its amazing how while I am the immature child, you are the adult who is flaming. If only we could all be more "mature" like you ...if you want to call yourself an adult, stop acting more juvenile than the child to whom you are comparing yourself to

[Bruceswar]

Must we go thru this every 2 weeks... Sigh... Lock this already?

[maxatstuy]

Must we go thru this every 2 weeks... Sigh... Lock this already?

Im surprised that you arent even attempting to defend yourself this time. I dont blame you for not trying though, your cheating was obvious and even DAT called you out for it. You have fed scott so many points that he has become dependent on you to win his games. Youre actions were atrocious and its nice that you not longer denying my allegations towards you and Scott

[demonfork]

Before Scott put me on foe I played in nineteen 8 player freestyle esc games with Scott, of those 19, six of them had both Scott and Bruce in the game, of those 6 Scott won 5 of them.

The other 13 games that Bruce did not play in, Scott only won 4 of them

with Bruce 5/6
without Bruce 4/13

I think that Scott knows that when Bruce is in the game he has a player that he does not need to worry about because he knows that Bruce would NEVER challenge him, because if he did he would end up on Scotts ignore list with the other players that wont gift him games, players like myself, Prankcall, Me-Da-MiNoRiTY and many others that wont give in to Scott's bullying tactics.

I really don't feel that there is any official colluding going on between Scott and Bruce, I just think that Bruce wants to stay friends with Scott and is not willing to take the chance of winding up on Scotts ignore list if he dares challenge him.

That said, I still think that this is still a form of cheating and the 3700 points that Scott has been the benefactor of from Bruce speaks for its self!

Scott if you are the great player that you say you are, why don't you remove all doubt and stop playing games with Bruce and show us all that you can raise your score without him!

[Bruceswar]

Fork I bet scott put you on foe not for going after him, but as shown many times over your mouth can get the best of you. Anyhow I was gone for 2 weeks... and from what I hear scott had comp issues. Surely that cannot be why he did not win as many..

[maxatstuy]

Before Scott put me on foe I played in nineteen 8 player freestyle esc games with Scott, of those 19, six of them had both Scott and Bruce in the game, of those 6 Scott won 5 of them.

The other 13 games that Bruce did not play in, Scott only won 4 of them

with Bruce 5/6
without Bruce 4/13

I think that Scott knows that when Bruce is in the game he has a player that he does not need to worry about because he knows that Bruce would NEVER challenge him, because if he did he would end up on Scotts ignore list with the other players that wont gift him games, players like myself, Prankcall, Me-Da-MiNoRiTY and many others that wont give in to Scott's bullying tactics.

I really don't feel that there is any official colluding going on between Scott and Bruce, I just think that Bruce wants to stay friends with Scott and is not willing to take the chance of winding up on Scotts ignore list if he dares challenge him.

That said, I still think that this is still a form of cheating and the 3700 points that Scott has been the benefactor of from Bruce speaks for its self!

Scott if you are the great player that you say you are, why don't you remove all doubt and stop playing games with Bruce and show us all that you can raise your score without him!

That is a great example of scott's playing and I would actually like to elaborate on your biases which bruce attempts to mention. When I first met demonfork, it was in live chat and he would always try to tell me off for calling scott a cheat. However, after playing scott several times, he eventually decided to play a one on one game against him. demonfork beat scott and following the abusive comments scott made upon losing, they stopped playing each other and fork began to look at scotts playing objectively. I know many others who would state similar stories if they werent afraid of being added to scotts obscene ignore list and it is wrong that a persons ignore list would be abused to the extent which scotts has.

[demonfork]

Fork I bet scott put you on foe not for going after him, but as shown many times over your mouth can get the best of you. Anyhow I was gone for 2 weeks... and from what I hear scott had comp issues. Surely that cannot be why he did not win as many..

That's rich Bruce, go back and compare my mouth to Scott's and see what you find!

Scott put me on Foe cause I beat him 1vs1 and then beat him in dubs, he got so pissed that he did not even finish the dubs game, from that point forward things were not the same

here is the 1vs 1 log

2008-09-26 05:26:39 - Scott-Land: i cant win 5 vs 3 but he can win 4 vs 2 and lose none - take 3 vs 1,1 and win too
2008-09-26 05:27:44 - demonfork: you complain about that yet last heads up we played you took somthing like 24 vs 18and had 16 left over
2008-09-26 05:29:47 - Scott-Land: i swear this is my last time im playing this shit
2008-09-26 05:30:14 - Scott-Land: fucking good dice- you cant just say yeah i did... every asshole has to comeback with something
2008-09-26 05:30:52 - demonfork: whatever dude, you complain too much
2008-09-26 05:31:20 - demonfork: think i'm an asshole, thats fine
2008-09-26 05:44:05 - demonfork: gg


the next game was a dubs game that lanyards and I won against scott and Georgex7di, Scott was losing and got pissed because we were taking too long to end our turn, this was a map that we had never played before and we needed all the time we had to discuss our strategy

2008-10-04 23:44:46 - Scott-Land: its not fucking freestyle- end
2008-10-04 23:44:50 - Scott-Land: ffs--
2008-10-04 23:45:45 - demonfork: you are funny scott
2008-10-04 23:45:50 - Scott-Land: lanny- where is his nexus ?
2008-10-04 23:45:52 - demonfork: i like you
2008-10-04 23:46:06 - Scott-Land: i was being quite serious blue
2008-10-04 23:46:07 - demonfork: you can come over and f*ck my sister
2008-10-04 23:46:25 - Georgerx7di: soujnds good demon
2008-10-05 00:00:00 - Scott-Land: you run out again- you can hit my ignore... your 10 points isnt worth the shit
2008-10-05 00:04:32 - demonfork: sorry scott, we have not played this map before, we needed the time to discuss
2008-10-05 00:04:50 - demonfork: you dont have to be a prick about it


After this game Scott put me on Ignore.

Scott is a crying little bully, if anyone stands up to him you get to be on his ignore list!

[comic boy]

I have played my fair share with scotty and never found him to be a cheat, yes the many games with bruce in them, seems overwhelming, but scotty likes to verbally abuse as part as of his bullying tactics of winning, only the weak minded cave in and bow to him and his rageful antics, but this is not cheating. if the mods looked at it and let it go, why cant you maxi-pad?


what are you asking? that they be blocked? I am sure the mods are just and fair. You know something, when a person is usually guilty of something, they tend to yell out and get many to focus on others to get the heat off themselves.

that is not true at all...I have no issue with mentioning my threads and if anything, me posting about scott brings more attention to the C&A threads made about me. I posted this thread not because I dislike scott, even though that my have contributed to my decision to post; I posted because there was no rational reasoning for why scott and bruce were let off the hook for their blatant abuse of the game. You play sequential games and while the games you play has no effect on scott, it does effect your perception of him. Bruce has gifted more kills than he has made in 8-player freestyle speed games. The very concept that scott has lost close to two thousand points in the two weeks bruce was away shows that scott has obviously become reliant on bruces gifting games and I find it amazing how, despite the trends which occur in scotts score, (scott with bruce, scott makes 3700 points, scott without, he loses 2000, bruce comes back he starts to win again,) the mods dont seem to recognize this as cheating.

So out of curiousity - since when does someones age being lower than yours mean that they shouldn't be listened to??

I suspect that 15 (almost 16) might be above average age for an internet gaming site??

C.

its not the age its the maturity level, constantly act like a spoiled little kid and it becomes an issue. He had what amounted to a teenage crush on Scott and since being brushed off has thrown his toys out of his pram, I went from being somebody who he greatly admired ( he kept sending fawning pms ) to the butt of his abuse because I disagreed with his methods. He is acting like a child and deserves to be treated like a child, the same would be true if he were 25.

Its amazing how while I am the immature child, you are the adult who is flaming. If only we could all be more "mature" like you ...if you want to call yourself an adult, stop acting more juvenile than the child to whom you are comparing yourself to

Let me explain once again, posting facts that make you look bad dont constitute flaming .
Repeating the same old bluster to try and justify yourself simply makes your position weaker.

[maxatstuy]

I have played my fair share with scotty and never found him to be a cheat, yes the many games with bruce in them, seems overwhelming, but scotty likes to verbally abuse as part as of his bullying tactics of winning, only the weak minded cave in and bow to him and his rageful antics, but this is not cheating. if the mods looked at it and let it go, why cant you maxi-pad?


what are you asking? that they be blocked? I am sure the mods are just and fair. You know something, when a person is usually guilty of something, they tend to yell out and get many to focus on others to get the heat off themselves.

that is not true at all...I have no issue with mentioning my threads and if anything, me posting about scott brings more attention to the C&A threads made about me. I posted this thread not because I dislike scott, even though that my have contributed to my decision to post; I posted because there was no rational reasoning for why scott and bruce were let off the hook for their blatant abuse of the game. You play sequential games and while the games you play has no effect on scott, it does effect your perception of him. Bruce has gifted more kills than he has made in 8-player freestyle speed games. The very concept that scott has lost close to two thousand points in the two weeks bruce was away shows that scott has obviously become reliant on bruces gifting games and I find it amazing how, despite the trends which occur in scotts score, (scott with bruce, scott makes 3700 points, scott without, he loses 2000, bruce comes back he starts to win again,) the mods dont seem to recognize this as cheating.

So out of curiousity - since when does someones age being lower than yours mean that they shouldn't be listened to??

I suspect that 15 (almost 16) might be above average age for an internet gaming site??

C.

its not the age its the maturity level, constantly act like a spoiled little kid and it becomes an issue. He had what amounted to a teenage crush on Scott and since being brushed off has thrown his toys out of his pram, I went from being somebody who he greatly admired ( he kept sending fawning pms ) to the butt of his abuse because I disagreed with his methods. He is acting like a child and deserves to be treated like a child, the same would be true if he were 25.

Its amazing how while I am the immature child, you are the adult who is flaming. If only we could all be more "mature" like you ...if you want to call yourself an adult, stop acting more juvenile than the child to whom you are comparing yourself to

Let me explain once again, posting facts that make you look bad dont constitute flaming .
Repeating the same old bluster to try and justify yourself simply makes your position weaker.

Using my age to represent some form of weakness MAKES it a flame. Im sorry that you are enable to write a post that is on topic, but trying to change the subject, as you are currently doing, only makes you look more like an immature idiot who is compensating for Scotts guilt by diverting peoples attention away from it. If you want to create a separate thread about whatever you want, go right ahead, but this one is about the 3700 points his got from bruce and his inability to win a game with bruce not around

[comic boy]

Ah yet more hypocrisy, flaming whilst complaining about supposed flames.
Scott doesnt cheat, no idea if Bruce is just a poor player or gets physched out but neither is game abuse.

[lancehoch]

OK, everyone, this thread was moved from a different forum, so I let the "discussion" continue for a bit. At this point I am going to set some ground rules for this thread:

• if you are not posting facts, do not post
• if you are quoting a previous post, please remove the nested quotes
• if you are off topic, you will be receiving a PM
• if you are flaming, you will be receiving a PM
• if you are flame-baiting, you will be receiving a PM

Facts do not include talking about someone's age or maturity level. Facts do include game numbers and win ratios. If there is anything I missed, I will edit this post and link back to it.

[maxatstuy]

Ah yet more hypocrisy, flaming whilst complaining about supposed flames.
Scott doesnt cheat, no idea if Bruce is just a poor player or gets physched out but neither is game abuse.

and the fact that bruce delays taking the last territory of every kill after leaving the last territory adjacent to scotts stack is merely a coincidence I suppose. and that scotts score declines every time he stops playing with bruce is a coincidence. and that scotts score increases every time he starts playing games against bruce is a coincidence. and that scott manages to kill bruce in nearly every game they are in together is merely a coincidence as well

that is a lot of coincidences for two, non-abusing, players

[Scott-Land]

OK, everyone, this thread was moved from a different forum, so I let the "discussion" continue for a bit. At this point I am going to set some ground rules for this thread:

• if you are not posting facts, do not post
• if you are quoting a previous post, please remove the nested quotes
• if you are off topic, you will be receiving a PM
• if you are flaming, you will be receiving a PM
• if you are flame-baiting, you will be receiving a PM

Facts do not include talking about someone's age or maturity level. Facts do include game numbers and win ratios. If there is anything I missed, I will edit this post and link back to it.

Where's the form Lance- is this an accusation or just another fit by him? Now I'm being accused of cheating because my score dropped ? Ever consider that after reaching 5500+ there's not much incentive anymore? Pull up those 8 mans and read the game log to see if I had connection problems. Are the 8 mans really the reason I dropped rank or because of 1 vs 1s , assassin , etc.

Write up the form- do the math and see where my points went.... I've played maybe 20 8 mans in the last 3 weeks due to computer problems. Not that I have to fucking justify anything to Demon ( multi- one reason he's on my ignore) and least of all Max ( another multi).