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Ranks?!?!?!?!!!?!

Postby Ronaldinho on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:31 am

Ive just had a look at the scoreboard and 81 was the colonal pos. This is STUPID and i think that lack should stick another rank to split it up a little :).


what i propose is that you shift colonal upto 2400 (or higher) and you put a new rank at 2000, this could be Lieutenant Colonel. I have been looking on wiki and ive got a picture for this aswel. Its sort of a leaf idea and looks quite nice after a little tinkering.


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Well im sure people can adjust and improve this idea. But i think its vital that we get a new rank in there somewhere.



thanks.


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Postby Sargentgeneral on Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:04 am

I like the idea and agree there should be a new one, but not Lieutenant Colonel. Maybe shift things around and add a Corpral or something new like that.
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Postby AK_iceman on Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:05 am

Something is already in the works. PM Sully800 for details. :)
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Postby Ronaldinho on Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:05 am

Sargentgeneral wrote:I like the idea and agree there should be a new one, but not Lieutenant Colonel. Maybe shift things around and add a Corpral or something new like that.



Its was the next lowest American rank from colonel :D
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Postby reverend_kyle on Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:39 am

Lieutenant colonel is a high lieutenant, not a low colonel.
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Postby Ronaldinho on Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:02 am

reverend_kyle wrote:Lieutenant colonel is a high lieutenant, not a low colonel.



dont be differcult :lol: i aint great on american ranks lol.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:05 am

Ronaldinho wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:Lieutenant colonel is a high lieutenant, not a low colonel.



dont be differcult :lol: i aint great on american ranks lol.


Neither am I, thats just what my military history teacher told me.. I could be wrong.. anyways, I think we shoudl go with ranks from the game stratego, as that is militarily accurate.
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Postby AK_iceman on Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:47 am

reverend_kyle wrote:anyways, I think we shoudl go with ranks from the game stratego, as that is militarily accurate.

And what about the spy rank?

Edit: And Miner isn't really a military rank either. :?
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Postby reverend_kyle on Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:03 am

AK_iceman wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:anyways, I think we shoudl go with ranks from the game stratego, as that is militarily accurate.

And what about the spy rank?

Edit: And Miner isn't really a military rank either. :?


Spy and miner are two that i'd leave out, but corporal and private could replace those as I dont believe that those are on stratego.
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Postby w3a2 on Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:50 am

hardly going to affect me, as stuck on Sargeant i am forever
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Postby lackattack on Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:33 am

This is a recent breakdown of ranks

New Recruit -> 28326
Private -------> 7194
Sergeant ----> 2233
Lieutenant ---> 860
Captain ------> 386
Major ---------> 265
Colonel --------> 75
General ---------> 4


Where do you see a problem?
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Postby johnnyrotten on Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:37 am

Too many [shudder] New Recruits [/shudder] :lol:
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Postby A Mans Part on Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:37 am

lackattack wrote:This is a recent breakdown of ranks

New Recruit -> 28326
Private -------> 7194
Sergeant ----> 2233
Lieutenant ---> 860
Captain ------> 386
Major ---------> 265
Colonel --------> 75
General ---------> 4


Where do you see a problem?


not enough spies?
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Postby MeDeFe on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:22 pm

Speaking of ranks, we have 6(!) generals atm, make it 4000 points again!
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Postby Boxcutta on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:24 pm

28326 new recruits and they all sign up to deadbeat in my games.
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Postby A Mans Part on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:33 pm

MeDeFe wrote:Speaking of ranks, we have 6(!) generals atm, make it 4000 points again!


yes, because zero is a much better number in proportion to the total number of users :infinite eyeroll:
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Postby AAFitz on Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:18 pm

there is only 4 after a year, maybe 25 or so next year...i think what will need to be done is make two star...three star and four star...

you cant crush the poor bstard that gets his bullseye...and then make him wear a hat...it just isnt right....
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Postby spiesr on Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:25 pm

A Mans Part wrote:not enough spies?


you talking about me...?
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Postby zarvinny on Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:07 am

lackattack wrote:This is a recent breakdown of ranks

New Recruit -> 28326
Private -------> 7194
Sergeant ----> 2233
Lieutenant ---> 860
Captain ------> 386
Major ---------> 265
Colonel --------> 75
General ---------> 4


Where do you see a problem?


Don't ppl disappear if they don't take a turn in 30 days? Basically, are these the numbers of all the people to ever have made an account on conquerclub or are they the folks that have played in the last 30 days? In my opinion, the amount of new recruits actually playing risk on this website at least some of the time is substantially less than 28k
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Postby Scorba on Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:12 am

Given that there are only 7821 players on the scoreboard, I'd imagine that those are the total numbers of accounts on the site.
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Postby sully800 on Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:33 pm

Okay, as AK said, I've been working on some new rank ideas for a while now. Originally, the ones I proposed were closely based on the American military ranks. So I changed the insignia for captain, major and colonel to the American insignia. This was mostly because I didn't see the British insignia where lack found to original diamond/swords/crown.

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One big change is the silver vs. gold icons. The silver would denote free members and the gold would be for premium members. This distinction was something lack said he wanted in one of the other threads.

Also you will notice I added a rank of 'scout' for anyone below 800 which I think is an important distinction that we don't currently have for lowerl level players. Andy suggested we change the name for that rank to 'cadet' which I prefer as well (I just didn't redo the image). I also added the 'corporal' rank in its proper place which shifts everything above that one level so the point levels are not the same. Then at the top the ranks of brigadier, field marshall and wardlord were added. These eliminated the 1000 point jump to the highest rank, increased the ranks up to the 4000 point level and added a rank for first place so even the people at the top will have something to strive for if they are already over 4000.


Then I made a few small changes because I think the new icons for major and colonel were a little confusing, and it doesn't matter if the insignia accurately matches the military rank. In the below image I changed the icons so you would go from 1 up to 3 horizontal bars, and then straight into the stars for the upper ranks. I think this system is much less confusing because there aren't as many symbols to remember and the order of the ranks is easy to see and understand. However I also like the current swords/diamond for the major/captain ranks so another idea is to use everything in this image but keep the current icons for those two ranks.

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So let's have some discussion about the new images, the new point levels, and anything else involved. If there are any other changes or ideas out there I would like to hear them. Just remember these are not the finalized rank changes or anything like that, so don't just complain about how much you hate them....talk about how to improve them!
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Postby MOBAJOBG on Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:05 pm

Just for your info., there is also a 5-star General rank = Commander-in-Chief.
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Postby hulmey on Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:54 pm

cant we stick to british military structure. We all know they are best trained and battle hardened troops around... And we never lost a war :)
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Postby sully800 on Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:02 pm

The British and American ranks are the same, they just have different insignia.

And if the British never lost a war the Americans wouldn't have their own ranks, now would they? :P
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Postby hulmey on Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:23 pm

this is the ranking structure for the british army:

Officer Ranks

Field Marshal General
Lieutenant General
Major General
Brigadier (General)
Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
Major
Captain
Lieutenant
Sub Lieut. / Second Lieut. / Ensign / Cornet



Non-Commissioned and Other Ranks

Warrant Officer First Class /Sgt.Major Warrant Officer Second Class
Staff Sergeant / Colour Sergeant
Sergeant
Corporal
Lance Corporal
Private / Trooper
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