Only Premium Members can make suggestions

by **HardAttack** on Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:47 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:On the whole, I reject the idea. I thought about it, and it is really not worth it. Not a bad idea, but I personally don't like it.

You are also stating that you dont like the idea. Congradulations mate..
I remember your posts and how they were beautiful which of most you made when you were freemium whether they are used or not.

by **Jeff Hardy** on Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:57 pm

saraith wrote:
Jeff Hardy wrote:very few of the suggestion made by freemiums are good ones and if they do have a really good idea they can ask a premium friend to post it for them

Are you trying to tell me that anyone who decided to pay $25 a year for a membership to this site is automatically smarter than me?

im saying that most people that are serious about the site (so far more likely to come up with something decent) have premium

by **HardAttack** on Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:01 pm

Thumb of the rule...
The measure of how much civilizated you are measured with how much freedome you provide.

by **Kotaro** on Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:08 pm

Terrible idea. Stupid ideas come from stupid people, not from freemiums alone. Whether or not people are dumb determines whether or not their idea is good or not. An, last I checked, no one is paying for use on the forum, so we're all freemiums here; it's the games that were are paying for.

by **saraith** on Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:09 pm

Jeff Hardy wrote:
saraith wrote:
Jeff Hardy wrote:very few of the suggestion made by freemiums are good ones and if they do have a really good idea they can ask a premium friend to post it for them

Are you trying to tell me that anyone who decided to pay $25 a year for a membership to this site is automatically smarter than me?

im saying that most people that are serious about the site (so far more likely to come up with something decent) have premium

Well, I have to say that is a good point, but it doesn't change my opinion.

by **Kotaro** on Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:11 pm

Jeff Hardy wrote:im saying that most people that are serious about the site (so far more likely to come up with something decent) have premium

Thai Robert
mhennigan

Are they not serious about this site? Is saraith (post above me) not serious about this site? Are many people who do not wish to waste money on entertainment, but rather save it up to use it to further their lives in a meaningful way, not serious?

You're making rash, untrue generalizations to support your point.

by **The Neon Peon** on Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:14 pm

Kotaro wrote:
Jeff Hardy wrote:im saying that most people that are serious about the site (so far more likely to come up with something decent) have premium

Thai Robert
mhennigan

Are they not serious about this site? Is saraith (post above me) not serious about this site? Are many people who do not wish to waste money on entertainment, but rather save it up to use it to further their lives in a meaningful way, not serious?

You're making rash, untrue generalizations to support your point.

You just prove yourself wrong. Take the scoreboard and see the percentage of freemiums who actually care about the site. The point of the suggestion is that the cost of the 1% having to go through a medium to make the suggestions is worth not letting the 99% of the freemiums who do not care to waste forum space and spam with suggestions that will be rejected.

P.S. The first two people you listed rarely go to the forums and have not contributed anything to CC. Way to provide bad examples. (seriously, there is a difference between playing a lot for free and contributing.)

by **Kotaro** on Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:18 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:You just prove yourself wrong. Take the scoreboard and see the percentage of freemiums who actually care about the site. The point of the suggestion is that the cost of the 1% having to go through a medium to make the suggestions is worth not letting the 99% of the freemiums who do not care to waste forum space and spam with suggestions that will be rejected.

P.S. The first two people you listed rarely go to the forums and have not contributed anything to CC. Way to provide bad examples. (seriously, there is a difference between playing a lot for free and contributing.)

So you're saying, that if people don't have good scores, they don't care about the site at all?
And taking a look at this suggestion, proves that premiums can make stupid suggestions too.

by **The Neon Peon** on Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:21 pm

Kotaro wrote:
The Neon Peon wrote:You just prove yourself wrong. Take the scoreboard and see the percentage of freemiums who actually care about the site. The point of the suggestion is that the cost of the 1% having to go through a medium to make the suggestions is worth not letting the 99% of the freemiums who do not care to waste forum space and spam with suggestions that will be rejected.

P.S. The first two people you listed rarely go to the forums and have not contributed anything to CC. Way to provide bad examples. (seriously, there is a difference between playing a lot for free and contributing.)

So you're saying, that if people don't have good scores, they don't care about the site at all?
And taking a look at this suggestion, proves that premiums can make stupid suggestions too.

Can you actually read my post before responding to it? I'll quote the important parts

The first two people you listed rarely go to the forums and have not contributed anything to CC.

by **Kotaro** on Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:30 pm

a.sub

Well, he's a good TO; but since he obviously isn't serious about this site, why let him make tournaments? I say we take that away too, since he isn't serious.

Cahs.Gilgamesh

Hey, possibly a good map maker in the works. But unfortunately, he's a freemium, so he must not be serious about this site. Lets not let him make one, shall we?

captainwalrus

Another good, prospective map maker. But, sadly, he too is a freemium

A lot of people on this site are freemium. And it's people like you, trying to hold them down, that prevents them from getting any more "serious" about this site. You bash them on the forums, because they feel that it's a waste of money to pay for more games, and you attack them for it. I had two friends once, who used to play a lot, and knew a lot about graphics. They were going to make a map together; threw a small idea together, posted it. Sadly, they didn't know there way around, and posted it in the wrong forum. They were "freemium bashed", their thread moved to flame wars. It could've been a great map; now they don't come here anymore.

Making rules against freemiums helps nothing.

by **The Neon Peon** on Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:35 pm

Did I say all freemiums are bad? No.

I have never bought premium. Someone else gave it to me, and I would still be freemium had it not happened.

My point being is that although there are many freemium members who support the site and help it, not most of them.

However, if you continue to read my posts in this topic, you will have seen that I specifically said I am against this suggestion.

So stop putting words in my mouth until you have read what I said in this topic, and not just a few select sentences.

by **Artimis** on Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:12 am

blakebowling wrote:And as Jeff Hardy said, most of the suggestions free members make are bad (most of them haven't been done), if they do have something good that a premium wants, then the premium can post it for them.

Premiums are just as guilty of this. I don't see any benefit to making any section of the forum Premium exclusive, in fact it will just harm the site community. I vote that this suggestion be rejected.

by **Joodoo** on Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:29 am

Artimis wrote:
blakebowling wrote:And as Jeff Hardy said, most of the suggestions free members make are bad (most of them haven't been done), if they do have something good that a premium wants, then the premium can post it for them.

Premiums are just as guilty of this. I don't see any benefit to making any section of the forum Premium exclusive, in fact it will just harm the site community. I vote that this suggestion be rejected.

yeah make like a one week poll and see if the community (as in those who browse the forums often) agrees or disagrees with this suggestion

by **owenshooter** on Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:15 am

as a premium member may i have the paying members floor to make a suggestion about this thread and the ideas contained within? thank you... LOCK IT!! this is absolutely ridiculous... freemium or premium has no bearing on the cognitive process, which was sorely lacking when this "suggestion" was made. there are a slew of freemiums that help make CC a better site, and offer great ideas and effort in doing so. this thread is absolutely disgusting and the OP should be embarassed of himself for even thinking such a thing. on the day his premium runs out, shall we run him out of the forums because his thoughts and ideas will suddenly have less value and merit than those of members that still have premium? not that this suggestion/thought has much merit, but he may still contribute a worthy idea at some point in his time in CC... judge not CC members based on the colour of their rank, but on the content of their play and contributions. and lest we forget, the meek shall inherit the CC... the black jesus has spoken...-0

by **Artimis** on Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:36 am

owenshooter wrote:as a premium member may i have the paying members floor to make a suggestion about this thread and the ideas contained within? thank you... LOCK IT!! this is absolutely ridiculous... freemium or premium has no bearing on the cognitive process, which was sorely lacking when this "suggestion" was made. there are a slew of freemiums that help make CC a better site, and offer great ideas and effort in doing so. this thread is absolutely disgusting and the OP should be embarassed of himself for even thinking such a thing. on the day his premium runs out, shall we run him out of the forums because his thoughts and ideas will suddenly have less value and merit than those of members that still have premium? not that this suggestion/thought has much merit, but he may still contribute a worthy idea at some point in his time in CC... judge not CC members based on the colour of their rank, but on the content of their play and contributions. and lest we forget, the meek shall inherit the CC... the black jesus has spoken...-0

I agree, let it be so!

by **blakebowling** on Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:55 am

I didn't think this would actually happen, it was just a thought in my head, and I was bored so I posted it. Lock if you wish, I dont really care.

by **Gypsys Kiss** on Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:55 pm

I find myself agreeing with the off-white messiah. Its not a position I'm particularly comfortable with.

This community is far too elitist already. Each Idea should be judged on its merits, not whether you can afford the premium fee, or indeed, want to pay it.

If posting 'intelligent' material was the criteria for being able to post, then 99% of the illumni would find themselves without a campus.

by **HardAttack** on Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:20 pm

Vote the posts on how good or bad this post is... Then let this vote and rating be the post rating of the player who makes the post...

by **sailorseal** on Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:24 pm

HardAttack wrote:Vote the posts on how good or bad this post is... Then let this vote and rating be the post rating of the player who makes the post...

WHAT?

by **TheBro** on Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:26 pm

New suggestion, only players with 2k+ score can make suggestions. If their suggestion is pending and their score dips below 2k, then the suggestion gets shot.... by a gun.

Because, most players under 2k don't care about the site, and if they did their score would surely be higher, correct?

by **HardAttack** on Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:31 pm

TheBro wrote:New suggestion, only players with 2k+ score can make suggestions. If their suggestion is pending and their score dips below 2k, then the suggestion gets shot.... by a gun.

Because, most players under 2k don't care about the site, and if they did their score would surely be higher, correct?

what if a player who made a suggestion waving between 1990 and 2010 ? then are we gonna set an hysterisis ?

by **HardAttack** on Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:34 pm

sailorseal wrote:
HardAttack wrote:Vote the posts on how good or bad this post is... Then let this vote and rating be the post rating of the player who makes the post...

WHAT?

simple, you get ur ratings from the votes other players in your games leaves to you after the games end...
is it ?
something similar here, let readers leaves rating to your posts...