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Battle of Stallingrad

Postby neanderpaul14 on Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:32 am

Was thinking of a Battle of Stallingrad map.

Battling through the remains of ruined factory building and bombed out apartment complexes.

Perhaps snipers that could make one way attacks, artillery that could bombard, and maybe Stukah dive bombers that could bombard and only be assaulted from anti-aircraft batteries or from other planes, perhaps even tanks that could do ranged assaults (similar to the cavalry from the Waterloo map)
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby cairnswk on Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:13 am

neanderpaul14 wrote:Was thinking of a Battle of Stallingrad map.

Battling through the remains of ruined factory building and bombed out apartment complexes.

Perhaps snipers that could make one way attacks, artillery that could bombard, and maybe Stukah dive bombers that could bombard and only be assaulted from anti-aircraft batteries or from other planes, perhaps even tanks that could do ranged assaults (similar to the cavalry from the Waterloo map)


Hey, Paul, i had targeted this battle to do at some stage...but am out of time at present.
Good idea of course, i like your ideas :)
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby Incandenza on Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:47 am

cairnswk wrote:Hey, Paul, i had targeted this battle to do at some stage...but am out of time at present.


I would pay for the finest prostitute in australia to take care of you every day for a month if it meant you'd do a stalingrad map.
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby cairnswk on Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:01 am

Incandenza wrote:
cairnswk wrote:Hey, Paul, i had targeted this battle to do at some stage...but am out of time at present.


I would pay for the finest prostitute in australia to take care of you every day for a month if it meant you'd do a stalingrad map.


Hehehehe! :lol: :lol:
You had better start saving. I heard from the underworld regions of Kings Cross that she charges $3000/night....
and i've just found about 10 maps....
i have 3 pictorial atlases celebrating 20th Century warfare in which Stalingrad features heavily....
enough maps to complete a wonderful triptych....
and i wish i could show you this map on PP190/191 of the Historical Atlas of World War II...it is so beautiful...3D and snow and ice....with planes and buildings...and armies all over the place
and i have Enemy At The Gates DVD.
Mmmmmm. now is it worth $3000/night O:) for a whole month.
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby Fireside Poet on Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:27 am

...and don't forget sewer fighting and Mamayev Hill with landmines. :)

...and Enemy at the Gates was terrible ... especially compared to the book. Go with the euro movie "Stalingrad" instead ... much better and much more in depth.
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby cairnswk on Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:59 pm

Fireside Poet wrote:...and don't forget sewer fighting and Mamayev Hill with landmines. :)

...and Enemy at the Gates was terrible ... especially compared to the book. Go with the euro movie "Stalingrad" instead ... much better and much more in depth.


Where's it all going to fit...630 x 600px??
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby the.killing.44 on Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:01 pm

cairns, you should read Stalingrad by Anthony Beevor if you're gonna do this map. Great, great book. Very in-depth.

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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby Fireside Poet on Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:15 pm

You could almost do a series with this one. Streets of Stalingrad and then the Stalingrad Underground. :P This would need to be a supermap much like the Iron Curtain (R.I.P.) map that was never finished.

The Beevor book is good also, but I liked the first hand accounts and letters from the front in the book Enemy at the Gates.
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby Incandenza on Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:55 pm

cairnswk wrote:and i wish i could show you this map on PP190/191 of the Historical Atlas of World War II...it is so beautiful...3D and snow and ice....with planes and buildings...and armies all over the place


You wouldn't happen to have the author's name or IDBN (or is it ISDN? I can never keep those two straight) number, would you? That sounds like the sort of bitchin' coffee-table book I could get remaindered off amazon.

I just finished reading the Beevor book, which is what really put the proverbial bee in my bonnet in the first place. Absolutely riveting stuff. I'll have to pick up the enemy at the gates book (assuming I can find one without Jude Law's mug plastered all over it, I've always loathed movie-tie-in book covers). And while the movie had its narrative flaws, it was pretty good with atmosphere and setting.

cairnswk wrote:Mmmmmm. now is it worth $3000/night O:) for a whole month.
:-^ :-^ :-^ :-^ :-^


Hmmm, $3000/night for the finest prostitute in Australia? It's a good thing you don't live in New York or LA, that would be considered the discount rate. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby cairnswk on Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:22 am

Incandenza wrote:
cairnswk wrote:Mmmmmm. now is it worth $3000/night O:) for a whole month.
:-^ :-^ :-^ :-^ :-^


Hmmm, $3000/night for the finest prostitute in Australia? It's a good thing you don't live in New York or LA, that would be considered the discount rate. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeh, but we're not greedy here see. =D> =D> =D> :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now, book...
The Historical Atlas of World War II (Cartorgraphica Press Ltd 2007)
http://www.amazon.com/Historical-Atlas- ... 0785822003
Alexander & Malcolm Swanston
ISBN 978 1 84573 240 0
I paid about $AUD20.00 from a second hand bookstore
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby Incandenza on Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:24 am

Much obliged, mate.

(oh, and it's not greed, it's relative hotness... :lol: )
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby neanderpaul14 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:10 am

cairnswk wrote:
neanderpaul14 wrote:Was thinking of a Battle of Stallingrad map.

Battling through the remains of ruined factory building and bombed out apartment complexes.

Perhaps snipers that could make one way attacks, artillery that could bombard, and maybe Stukah dive bombers that could bombard and only be assaulted from anti-aircraft batteries or from other planes, perhaps even tanks that could do ranged assaults (similar to the cavalry from the Waterloo map)


Hey, Paul, i had targeted this battle to do at some stage...but am out of time at present.
Good idea of course, i like your ideas :)


Thank you cairnswk, when I made this suggestion I was hoping you would be the one to do something with. I love your work. The Waterloo map hurt my brain at first but now it is among my favorites..
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby deliaselene on Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:04 am

I never realised how much research went into creating the maps ... good luck with this project ... looks interesting
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby sailorseal on Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:50 pm

Great idea!
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby cairnswk on Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:52 am

Starting Point perhaps???

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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby LB Ninja on Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:08 am

This sounds like a great idea. I may have to keep up to date on this one
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby cairnswk on Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:23 am

Starting Point perhaps???

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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:26 am

I like that. And we have the same book 8-)

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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby cairnswk on Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:59 am

the.killing.44 wrote:I like that. And we have the same book 8-)
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby neanderpaul14 on Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:13 am

GO cairns.......GO
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby cairnswk on Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:11 pm

A Draft will not be considered for promotion to the Main Foundry without the support of CC users. If a map is not considered by the Foundry community to offer something original and/or interesting in terms of gameplay, graphics, and theme, its production will not be encouraged.


I am going to start working on this map, although it will be slower in production than other maps i have done as i am now doing Uni.
But, in terms of the above quote from the new Drafting rule, please advise what you consider should be offered as something original and /or of interest for this map.
My outline thus far for the map is that it will be standard game play with bombardments and air attacks; impassables, and 3-D buildings & trees where i can fit these on the map.
What else do you want?
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby neanderpaul14 on Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:56 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:I like that. And we have the same book 8-)

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What book are you guys talking about??......

I love history texts
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Re: Battle of Stallingrad

Postby cairnswk on Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:18 am

neanderpaul14 wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:I like that. And we have the same book 8-)

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What book are you guys talking about??......

I love history texts


I think it's this one

The Historical Atlas of World War II (Cartorgraphica Press Ltd 2007)
http://www.amazon.com/Historical-Atlas- ... 0785822003
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