HOLY WARS - THE CRUSADES 1250AD - including poll

[CHAMPOS]

there are some great maps on CC.

most have dead space on them with countries bordering 'ghost' lands - don't get the point in that

the probalem with this first time round was it was not historically accurate, hopefully it is now.

this is a raw map, no dead space, historically accurate and how europe may have turned out with a bit of different fate

we could all be khans....

[miniwally]

why do you have HRE owning Italy that's papal states/ all those seperate countries

[MrBenn]

For some reason the image that you are posting is much larger than the area of the map (ie you have a big white border around your image)

You mentioned about merging your previous thread in here... personally I think you'd be better off adding a link to it in the first post, rather than adding in several pages that may confuse/detract from current discussion.

[sailorseal]

Increase the size of the Holy Lands and divide it. Very nice map, will post more later...

[miniwally]

Increase the size of the Holy Lands and divide it. Very nice map, will post more later...

that's what i said he should increase it up to Antioch shouldn't he.

[Sardauk]

Interesting ideas! Seems like you're focusing on the religious conflicts of the time. Following this project with great interest.

weren't the mongols islamic

No. If anything, animistic, with an interest in (and rather accepting of) other religions.

[CHAMPOS]

"by miniwally » Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:17 am

why do you have HRE owning Italy that's papal states/ all those seperate countries"

Frederick II (December 26, 1194 – December 13, 1250), of the Hohenstaufen dynasty, was an Italian pretender to the title of King of the Romans from 1212 and unopposed holder of that monarchy from 1215. As such, he was King of Germany, of Italy, and of Burgundy. He was also King of Sicily from his mother's inheritance. He was Holy Roman Emperor (Emperor of the Romans) from his papal coronation in 1220 until his death. His original title was King of Sicily, which he held as Frederick I from 1198 to his death. His other royal titles, accrued for a brief period of his life, were King of Cyprus and Jerusalem by virtue of marriage and his connection with the Sixth Crusade.

It is considered that at this time the Holy Roman Empire effectively had control over the Papal States and Two Sicilies.

Champos

[CHAMPOS]

The Crusades 1250AD

CURRENT VERSION

Updated following recent comments. Holy Lands changed. Some internal restrictions removed.





There are 6 continents : armies/ territories/ to defend
- Roman Catholics 6/ 10/ 3
- Eastern Othodox 5/ 7/ 7
- Islamic Emirates 3/ 8/ 4
- Pagan Tribes 2/ 4/ 3
- Mongol Golden Horde 3/ 7/ 3
- Mongol Il-Khanate 2/ 5/ 3
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42 in total

A crudader holding the Holy Lands, whilst holding a continent(s), will receive double the army entitelment for holding the continent(s). For example a crusader holding the Holy Lands and all the Islamic Emirate states will be entitled to a army bonus of 6, instead of the usual 3. Hence it is worth crusading for...

The Caucasus Mountains are inpassable between those territories marked with a cross.

This is based on the project from the past - see link: viewtopic.php?f=242&t=6135&start=0

Let the Crusades commence...

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copy & paste

for now:

i fixed the massive outline for you, but can't help in your .psd

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[LED ZEPPELINER]

you have to get rid of the white

Edit: You could move the Bahriyya Mamluks army cirlcle up, and put the name right below it that way it wouldn't be running over the water

[CHAMPOS]

i have tried. happy to pass the Adobe Illustrator file to someone to have a go at the graphics, it would be apprecaited.

[miniwally]

eastern orthodox symbols are to pale

[CHAMPOS]

REVISED VERSION FROM COMMENTS

ANY COMMENTS ON PLAYABILITY, HISTORICAL ACCURACY APPRECAITED.

IT'S COME A LONG WAY - This is based on the project from the past - see link: viewtopic.php?f=242&t=6135&start=0

[miniwally]

you still don't have italy as a seperate country from HRE please change it

[CHAMPOS]

Frederick II (December 26, 1194 – December 13, 1250), of the Hohenstaufen dynasty, was an Italian pretender to the title of King of the Romans from 1212 and unopposed holder of that monarchy from 1215. As such, he was King of Germany, of Italy, and of Burgundy. He was also King of Sicily from his mother's inheritance. He was Holy Roman Emperor (Emperor of the Romans) from his papal coronation in 1220 until his death. His original title was King of Sicily, which he held as Frederick I from 1198 to his death. His other royal titles, accrued for a brief period of his life, were King of Cyprus and Jerusalem by virtue of marriage and his connection with the Sixth Crusade.

It is considered that at this time the Holy Roman Empire effectively had control over the Papal States and Two Sicilies i.e Southern Italy

[Qwert]

I belive that you need to do more historical researches
Serbia in 1250 have its own Kingdom,and not whas part of any Bulgarian Empire

[CHAMPOS]

Fair comment Quert. It looks like in 1250ad the Hungarians were preoccuplied with the mongols. The bulgarians did capture a number of large areas in the early 13 century, but it looks like the serbian prince recaptured alot of it by 1250ad. Orthodoxy was the main relaigion, closely aligned to Eastern Orthodoxy.

Map changed.

More historical accuracy comments welcome

Champs

[miniwally]

You need key

[CHAMPOS]

Hopefully this is a little better...

[miniwally]

get better mountains if that's why they're impassables

[MrBenn]

For some reason the image that you are posting is much larger than the area of the map (ie you have a big white border around your image)

You mentioned about merging your previous thread in here... personally I think you'd be better off adding a link to it in the first post, rather than adding in several pages that may confuse/detract from current discussion.

^^This still applies

[CHAMPOS]

updated version



i will get the white border removed during the next stage

[CHAMPOS]

the link should now be working

[miniwally]

not for me

[CHAMPOS]