War of the Triple Cult (Day 6)

[Thezzaruz]

derfderf stands out more than sheep on the votes alone, but factoring in what we know of tonight, sheep is a better choice.

Solid reasoning it looks like. However I'll wait a bit before throwing my vote to allow sheep a response.

I'd like to remind you that if they were recruited last night then previous actions would be helpful as they just joined the cult. Although I realise this puts me as a suspect

So your saying that a new cult members history as a town would be helpful to convict him? I don't quite understand what you're saying here.

I got the feeling that he meant it as "past actions help in determining who the cults might have wanted to recruit". Not sure it does though as I have the feeling that neither cult wants to be that obvious.

[sheepofdumb]

derfderf stands out more than sheep on the votes alone, but factoring in what we know of tonight, sheep is a better choice.

Solid reasoning it looks like. However I'll wait a bit before throwing my vote to allow sheep a response.

I agree with stroop here, there is a 33% chance of me being targeted by cult. There is also a 33% chance of William and Pmc being cult too though. Even then, if one of us was targeted that doesn't necessarily mean Pmc, William, or I were recruited.

[derfderf34]

The way you keep talking like mpjh was specifically against green cult makes me think that you are on that cult because of how much tohught you put in that cults direction fos Juan_Bottom

Ok, what?

That doesn't exactly make sense there derf...

I know, right?

vote derfderf34 for being against lynching cult? Although I have no idea what the crap he just tried to say, I'm pretty sure he was saying that I must be green cult because I had an idea on how to help catch red and blue cult?

all that i meant to say was that he was puuting a lot of thoought towards how badly that green cult is screwed even thoughone power role has been taken away from them. He was acting like the cultless maniac was only agaist green. All of his thoguhts just about green make me think that he is green.

[spiesr]

I'd like to remind you that if they were recruited last night then previous actions would be helpful as they just joined the cult. Although I realise this puts me as a suspect

So your saying that a new cult members history as a town would be helpful to convict him? I don't quite understand what you're saying here.

I got the feeling that he meant it as "past actions help in determining who the cults might have wanted to recruit". Not sure it does though as I have the feeling that neither cult wants to be that obvious.

I thought what he was trying to say was that if someone just got recruited that past actions would not be helpful.

derfderf stands out more than sheep on the votes alone, but factoring in what we know of tonight, sheep is a better choice.

Solid reasoning it looks like. However I'll wait a bit before throwing my vote to allow sheep a response.

I agree with stroop here, there is a 33% chance of me being targeted by cult. There is also a 33% chance of William and Pmc being cult too though. Even then, if one of us was targeted that doesn't necessarily mean Pmc, William, or I were recruited.

Well sheep, the way I see it there is of course a chance that that you three were already cult. There is the same chance with every person in the game. But for you three there is also that fact that one of you was targeted from rercruitment last night. There is of course no garentee that you were actually recruited, but the odds of at least of one of you three being cult are still at least slightly higher than odds for of at least one person being cult for a group of three randomly chosen people that weren't in your group.

[Stroop]

I'm going to vote william18...

Focus seems to be on pmc and sheep, which gives will the chance to stay quiet and I'd like to hear his take on things.

[pmchugh]

I'd like to remind you that if they were recruited last night then previous actions would be helpful as they just joined the cult. Although I realise this puts me as a suspect

So your saying that a new cult members history as a town would be helpful to convict him? I don't quite understand what you're saying here.

I got the feeling that he meant it as "past actions help in determining who the cults might have wanted to recruit". Not sure it does though as I have the feeling that neither cult wants to be that obvious.

I thought what he was trying to say was that if someone just got recruited that past actions would not be helpful.

Kind of, I think this sums up my thoughts:

By lynching someone who was scummy before last night and someone who could have been recruited last night you are covering two bases with one lynch.

Lynches give us information, we find out the lynched players role so we can see who supported their lynch, who opposed it and who was just bandwaggoning. After a few lynches patterns emerge and then we have good evidence as to who is scum.

a good bandwaggon is always fun.

Pmc is painting himself as a lynch happy bandwagoner. When there's a 33% chance of him being cult he's immediately jumps on the sheep train. This is one of his before-mentioned patterns. He's aggressive and is pressing on me now.

Aren't you pressing me now that there's a 33% chacne you were recruited?

Without bandwaggons we get nowhere, but that doesn't mean I support any particular bandwaggon. I support them/oppose them based on whether I believe the player in question to be scum (or deadlines), and people opposing bandwaggons give us just as much info as those supporting them.

I believe you are by far the best candidate for a lynch IMO, with your previous scummy behaviour plus the 33% chance you were targetted last night.

[Thezzaruz]

I thought what he was trying to say was that if someone just got recruited that past actions would not be helpful.

Probably makes more sense yea. sheep was still way of though.

derfderf stands out more than sheep on the votes alone, but factoring in what we know of tonight, sheep is a better choice.

I agree with stroop here, there is a 33% chance of me being targeted by cult. There is also a 33% chance of William and Pmc being cult too though. Even then, if one of us was targeted that doesn't necessarily mean Pmc, William, or I were recruited.

I find it amusing that you agree with the guy that wants to lynch you...

[norsemsn1066]

Rather than jsut random players try picking from a group of low posters. This more often than RAND() indicates a player with something to hide. I know I've been a very low poster but that was in part due to my subbing in and being unable to access the net from home. I have a new PC and I'm also spending time while I'm at work trying to catch up with this thread.

If we are going to do anything that's what I'd avocate doing.

[Stroop]

Rather than jsut random players try picking from a group of low posters. This more often than RAND() indicates a player with something to hide. I know I've been a very low poster but that was in part due to my subbing in and being unable to access the net from home. I have a new PC and I'm also spending time while I'm at work trying to catch up with this thread.

If we are going to do anything that's what I'd avocate doing.

Where are we being random about it?

[captainwalrus]

Rather than jsut random players try picking from a group of low posters. This more often than RAND() indicates a player with something to hide. I know I've been a very low poster but that was in part due to my subbing in and being unable to access the net from home. I have a new PC and I'm also spending time while I'm at work trying to catch up with this thread.

If we are going to do anything that's what I'd avocate doing.

We were doing that for a while unitll everyone decided to lynch ani.

[norsemsn1066]

Does will fall into the low posters cat? if he does then I could be persuaded to vote for him as well. I see that who you named in a post a few posts ago. I'm still catching up BTW.

[Stroop]

Does will fall into the low posters cat? if he does then I could be persuaded to vote for him as well. I see that who you named in a post a few posts ago. I'm still catching up BTW.

I'd say will fits into that category, yes.

Still, read up first though. There's good reason to lynch sheep or even derf too.

[sheepofdumb]

derfderf stands out more than sheep on the votes alone, but factoring in what we know of tonight, sheep is a better choice.

I agree with stroop here, there is a 33% chance of me being targeted by cult. There is also a 33% chance of William and Pmc being cult too though. Even then, if one of us was targeted that doesn't necessarily mean Pmc, William, or I were recruited.

I find it amusing that you agree with the guy that wants to lynch you... [/quote]

Just because he's trying to lynch doesn't mean I can't agree with him.

I'd like to remind you that if they were recruited last night then previous actions would be helpful as they just joined the cult. Although I realise this puts me as a suspect

So your saying that a new cult members history as a town would be helpful to convict him? I don't quite understand what you're saying here.

I got the feeling that he meant it as "past actions help in determining who the cults might have wanted to recruit". Not sure it does though as I have the feeling that neither cult wants to be that obvious.

Well in that case Thezz, cults would probably eyeball Pmc after his defense of ani.

Aren't you pressing me now that there's a 33% chacne you were recruited?

I wasn't going to at that moment, because if I voted for you it could easily be seen as a revenge vote.

I believe you are by far the best candidate for a lynch IMO, with your previous scummy behaviour plus the 33% chance you were targetted last night.

What previous scummy behavior?

I have a very strong feeling that you were the one targeted by cult. Vote Pmc.

[norsemsn1066]

Well I really like the idea of ighting a fire under low posters so I'm going to agree with you for the onow and

Vote:::Wilm18

[pmchugh]

Aren't you pressing me now that there's a 33% chacne you were recruited?

I wasn't going to at that moment, because if I voted for you it could easily be seen as a revenge vote.

I believe you are by far the best candidate for a lynch IMO, with your previous scummy behaviour plus the 33% chance you were targetted last night.

What previous scummy behavior?

I have a very strong feeling that you were the one targeted by cult. Vote Pmc.

You basically just admitted that this was a revenge vote and as your only reasons you gave are that I was one of the players in the three and you were too and that I didn't give sufficient reason.

You previous scummy behaviour is the fact that you have been on every major bandwaggon against a townie so far, all 4 of them. More detail can be given if required.

[spiesr]

So right now that voting seems to be split amongst sheep, will, and pmc. Well, at least we are getting some discussion out of all of it. Can we get a vote count in a little while?
We still need several pords/replacements...

[william18]

Well I really like the idea of ighting a fire under low posters so I'm going to agree with you for the onow and

Vote:::Wilm18

Why, becuase they won't talk enough to suffiecintly defend themselves. Seems like a scum startegy to get any easy lynch. Also let me get this straight:

1.Stroop can protect 3 from 1 cult

2.Stroop knows if other cult tries to recruit(or recruits)

3.Stroop knows if the cult he protects against makes an attempt

Correct?

I would like an answer from Stroop before I continue.

[sheepofdumb]

You previous scummy behaviour is the fact that you have been on every major bandwaggon against a townie so far, all 4 of them. More detail can be given if required.

Space was a noob and deserved it. Kage wasn't lynched and I did unvote soon after claim I believe. Mpjh deserved it. Ani didn't articulate that he was hunting scum. As sad as it is to lose a cop giving green an advantage, he couldn't articulate that he was a cop hunting cult. Saying he doesn't know which cult your in and what cult your finding is a big difference. In hindsight ani should have never been lynched. As they say though, you have 20/20 hindsight.

[Thezzaruz]

Just because he's trying to lynch doesn't mean I can't agree with him.

So basically you are agreeing with yourself being the best target for a lynch??? Somehow I don't see that being a winning strategy.

[derfderf34]

You previous scummy behaviour is the fact that you have been on every major bandwaggon against a townie so far, all 4 of them. More detail can be given if required.

Space was a noob and deserved it. Kage wasn't lynched and I did unvote soon after claim I believe. Mpjh deserved it. Ani didn't articulate that he was hunting scum. As sad as it is to lose a cop giving green an advantage, he couldn't articulate that he was a cop hunting cult. Saying he doesn't know which cult your in and what cult your finding is a big difference. In hindsight ani should have never been lynched. As they say though, you have 20/20 hindsight.

i would completely agree that space and mpjh deserved it and about ani

IMO, no offence to ani, but he was kinda holding us back and we would have lynched him sooner or later. His inability to communicate by simply saying "I'm the green cult killer" is what got him lynched; it wasn't our mistake. It was like interagating a drunk or something.

ani wouldnt answer any questions with a stragith answer
lynching sheep based on his voting on bandwafons is no reason to lynch him

[sheepofdumb]

Just because he's trying to lynch doesn't mean I can't agree with him.

So basically you are agreeing with yourself being the best target for a lynch??? Somehow I don't see that being a winning strategy.

Yeah pretty much. I think you'll see that my defense though has said quite the opposite. If I was on the other side of the fence though, playing devils advocate as I often like to do, I'd say that I'm a better target than most

[spiesr]

lynching sheep based on his voting on bandwafons is no reason to lynch him

Of course, you say that, you were on all the same bandwagons...

[Stroop]

1.Stroop can protect 3 from 1 cult

2.Stroop knows if other cult tries to recruit(or recruits)

3.Stroop knows if the cult he protects against makes an attempt

Correct?

1. and 2. are correct, 3. is not correct (yes, odd).

And as for 2., I don't know if the attempt was succesful.

[Haggis_McMutton]

What's up with kage?

Nate, do you know anything? Maybe we should get a replacement.

[derfderf34]

ace and kage; are youre guys role actually the same name as ani's was?