***Finn Rock Fallout*** -- Game Over ~ Infected Win

[wicked]

Free, I saw you browsing this forum, why haven't you posted?

[wicked]

... at all since the day opened?

[Freetymes]

Ok they finally got power back to our house in the middle of the night last night!! Hooooooooray!!! A Hot Shower!!! Makes you feel like a new man!
Ok enough about RL

2 dead sucks!!! I will think more on this riddle before trying to say what I think happened but the theories already put forth seem plausable.

I have read all of the posts since the day started and I need to do some looking back at my personal FOS's and see how this matches up with current events.

For now I will say that MB has some good points but a couple seem thin.

Voteing for AK IMO does not necessarily mean you are a townie for sure. As i remember a couple of those folks did not claim a FOS for him early on and after losing Auto it was a no brainer vote.

The lynch vote was fast and considering how hard it has been for me to get on line due to this storm I am not ready to convict simply because things went fast and some were unable to get on to vote.

Just because we have had something unlock in the hospital does not mean we should lynch on of the ones left there to see what happened. We can not afford to kill another key role!

I will put one point in here that I have been mulling over.

What if our assumption that there is a mafia in every area is all wrong? What if they are all from the same area? Like a hospital? where people are accidentally infected all the time? Where those that were there may have been forced to try the new vaccine? Any one can say they got there at the last minute but... just a theory but we decided early on that there were mafia in each area with no real evidence as proof.

I need to look more but I have had an FOS for wicked and her wooot that she "Was still alive" raises my suspicion. The statement alone seems made to send a subliminal message instead of actual suprise at being alive.

Xen is all over this forum all the time until this game and then suddenly he can't get on much and school (where he has said he posts from all the time) is suddenly more important? (school is but this is the first I have heard him say so)

I need to reread Trestain's posts as up to now he has been a yellow flag as has MB.

I will be back when I can read more of past posts and have had time to feel out our newest riddle...

[Freetymes]

Free, I saw you browsing this forum, why haven't you posted?

Because I had to read all that has happened since the day started and make my post. I am at work and for some reason they think I should go to all of my meetings in the morning instead of playing this game...

[trestain]

on the memorial hospital event being unlocked. I for one hope that we now have a new doctor or someone has come up with a vaccine. Anyone that openly wants these people to announce themselves now is suspicous in my book, as with the doctor gone exposing this new role to the mafia would be a BAD idea, as far as i can see we would have no way to protect them.

2 deaths, I also think we have a vigilante here, I am just wondering which side he is on. Is it possible that his role may have been to help the mafia.

The Reverend Kyle situation, At the moment because of conversations with wicked at the beginning of today i do not suspect him at the moment, I think AK was using him to his advantage.

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[moz976]

The vigilantly is on the side of the townies.

[trestain]

ok cheers moz

[wicked]

why the hell would you come out with that moz????

free, my w00t comment was genuine surprise. when cram mentioned, how does she know she's going to be alive, I realized he was right and went "oh shit!" all "night", worrying he was predicting my death. I honestly think the only reason I'm still alive is Houssam is indeed guilty and killing me would just prove that to be true.

[moz976]

From all the websites that I have read the vigilantly it always on the side of the town.


I guess we could have another Andy twist (this game seems full of them)

[wicked]

well the vigilante screwed up then, if he is indeed on the side of the town. you better hope to hell we still have some sort of protective role left.

[XenHu]

I didnt recieve any info on an unlocked hospital event

Nor I...

Let's not be so close-minded to think the hospital event HAS to involve solely people at the hospital. Sure, it's a logical assumption, but let's keep all options open. That might be TOO obvious, ya know?

I agree.

Other possible "events".... someone obtained the power to innoculate? A new vaccine was found?

I like the innoculation theory.. But I'm not sure about the vaccine... I don't think we have anyone left who could work on one(remember our doc is dead)..

As of right now, I'm going to sit on the fence...There isn't enough info out for (me) to make a judgement call...

-X

[wicked]

well Xen, the more we talk, the more info surfaces. You've thrown out no theories, or even begun to speculate. Letting everyone else try to find out what's going on and then jumping on the bandwagon is only how to play if you want to be lynched as a possible mafia.

[XenHu]

well Xen, the more we talk, the more info surfaces. You've thrown out no theories, or even begun to speculate. Letting everyone else try to find out what's going on and then jumping on the bandwagon is only how to play if you want to be lynched as a possible mafia.

Let me tell you something...


I've thought of theories....but I'm hesitant to put them out:

1.Because they make me look stupider than I look already....

2. The help the mafia more than they help us( see my 'doctor' disscusion.

3. I'm still trying to understand all the different roles in the game.

S'cuse me if I'm a little light on the theories.

I'll try and come up with something...

-X

[wicked]

I do apologize, I just went back and looked at your posts, and you have been talking some.

[Freetymes]

In rereading things something pops out at me...

Andy said an "Event" was unlocked, not a "Roll"

Does he usually say event when a roll is unlocked or does he say roll? Perhaps something happened instead of someone finding new powers?

Xen is speaking up but not saying anything and where is Mach? He seems to be most absent in our discussions...

I see ya workin wicked but where is that theory you were speaking of since you seem to think everyone should be posting one.

[Bogusbet]

well the vigilante screwed up then, if he is indeed on the side of the town. you better hope to hell we still have some sort of protective role left.

Vig role is a hard one, I played it last game and got lucky with killing a Mafia. DO NOT SHOW yourself. - Unlocked thing needs a careful look at, Andy has been a busy boy!!

Vig PLEASE be sure if you get another kill option that you take out a suspect of value or nothing at all, we are getting low on townie body count. I got some reading to do*

*I just paid a $30 vig for wireless internet in a hotel to catch up with this, lets be active for a few hours so I get my monies worth.

[wicked]

Event is most likely different than role, thanks for reminding me of that. Unlocked roles are individual and announced in PM's (e.g. Backglass becoming deputy when Auto was killed). Event was announced in the thread, so assuming it affects more than one person? Perhaps nobody knows what the event is yet, and it's something we'll find out later?

My only theory at this point is I'm pretty sure Houssam is mafia. I'm not ready to push for a vote yet though. Not because of lack of evidence, but b/c I want to see where we stand with this "event" and I also want to see more people talking!

[wicked]

In lieu of having Bogey's attention for only a short span, Houssam post to follow shortly....

[wicked]

The biggest evidence I have is Houssam has come out only ever against me. Almost every single one of his posts was made to create suspicion of me, and I am the ONLY person he has gone after. We already know there were two cops, both now dead (Auto and Backglass - unlocked deputy), so I seriously doubt there is another. So his weird obsession with trying to make me look bad is highly suspicious to me.

The loser hasn't touched me in years!

This timeframe does not match with what's in my PM. I will not say more until Houssam explains what was in his PM background role, which I have asked him to do previously.

she seemed caught off guard nonetheless

Tries to create undue suspicion on me, when nothing like that had happened.

Oh, and there is a minor point.. "he" did not mention our kid's name - which I find odd, since he is supposed to be the one parent that cares about the brat..

You were given our kid's name? That was not in my PM at all, but what does that have to do with anything?

Well.. if you are so unsure, why then are you "fiercely" fighting for his custody?? Besides, this disgusting nose could have only come from you!

Funny, if he had the info in his PM, he would've shared it. Me saying that info was never included in the PM caught him off-guard, which he tries to cover with a joke.

So he mentions the baby, then says:

I have no baby in my story

The different details are designed to cause this confusion precisely.

Conveniently makes an excuse to cover why he didn't have info in his PM. RK & IC didn't have anything fundamentally different in their roles, just a minor who was where when difference.

It is not about finding an intruder that is trying to piece parts of a story they don't know so we are catching them in a lie.

Trying to move us away from the fact his PM doesn't match mine.

Our cop is as good as dead since he revealed himself. We might as well lynch him.

Whoa... we might as well lynch him?????? No, the doc could've saved him.

If [Auto] was lying we get a mafia, if he is not we know his conclusions were right and would lose nothing much since he would have been infected anyway.

Not lose much? Would have been infected anyway?? That sounds like a slip-up of a mafia who were planning to infect him at night anyway.

IC - who is going (obviously) to be revealed as Mafia

So obviously mafia, yet we had to prod you to vote for him??

I am thinking that since we are sure Iceman is mafia - does it make any sense for him to reveal a connection with Rev_kyle?!! Am I the only one who sees this as rather obvious??

hmm... this is what I suggested at first, yet you didn't support it then, you were too busy going after me.

You really think if Rev had anything to do with killing autoload, he would come and apologize about it?

This is really odd to me. Auto was lynched, not killed by mafia. Why are you defending RK's involvement with Auto's lynching? Did you think RK was mafia, and you have a pro-mafia role but aren't allowed to talk to them at night?? (Note: this role has been used previously in an Andy game, IC was in the Bugs game.)



So I'm curious to know how similar MB's and Cram's PM'd info was???

So to recap, the main reason I'm sure Houssam's guilty is all he has done is go after me. So being innocent, I find this highly irregular, just as any of you other townies would if it was happening to you!!

[wicked]

forgot to add this....

vote houssam


Not rushing, I know we still have a few days to discuss.

[XenHu]

I have a theory on the hospital event...

What if one of someone has be granted a manipulation role?

(quote from wikipedia):These roles can stop or alter the night actions of others; for instance, they may prevent a protection or investigation from occurring, or they may change the target. Not all of these roles will be on the side of the Innocents. The Thief may remove the person's role entirely (for instance, by stealing a Vigilante's gun). The Godfather has the ability to recruit innocent players to become Mafia under certain circumstances. This role differs from the Alignment Role of Godfather above...

It would certainly explain the timing (the event was unlocked at night)


-X

[XenHu]

It would also explain why the vig killed a townie(unless the vig is stupid)...


-X

[wicked]

A role blocker is certainly a possibility. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I'd like to think (hope!) the unlocked event helps the townies, as it happened when we lost the doc.

[XenHu]

[quote="XenHu"]

What if one of someone has be granted a manipulation role{/quote]

Oops, I meant 'what if someone'..




-X

[Bogusbet]

It would also explain why the vig killed a townie(unless the vig is stupid)...


-X

I would have said the Vig may have been despo and took a shot and missed, not stupid, I don't wana condone him for doing what he felt was right, just restraint if he gets another shot.

I am thinking along the lines with Wicked at the moment and going on odds, she, surely CANNOT be mafia again!! The poker player in me wants to take her to the vote to be sure but I can't. I got this wrong last time tho.... But I would prob fall in with her and RK who I am sure is a townie after reading back for an hour.

MB, your clever and I like the way you think, I'm watching your posts and reading them as they make alot of sense, I'm asking you to chill on Wicked for the Obv reasons.

Trestain, you worry me, not sure why yet I cant pin, convince me fella, Xen you also.

Moz, your awfull quiet and this makes me think as your a clever guy?

The others, well I'm still reading and my voye could go to anyone at the moment, FOS Trestain for now.