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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby The Neon Peon on Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:16 pm

I really love the style of the map, and the graphics look great so far. You seem to have a lot of lakes and rivers, perhaps make the theme of a small area of swamps?

The wall seems a bit unlike the rest of the map. I would suggest making it more of a 'wall' (meaning make it less like bricks).
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby sailorseal on Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:20 pm

I dis agree I love the wall just make more and make the swamp theme
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby the.killing.44 on Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:21 pm

I like Neon's swamp idea. as for walls, maybe something like this?
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Obviously it'll be hard to replicate on such a small scale, but something of the sort — a not-exactly-perfect stone wall — would work well I believe.

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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby Joodoo on Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:54 am

having the bodies of water as territories could make gameplay more interesting for this map :D
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby sailorseal on Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:51 pm

Joodoo wrote:having the bodies of water as territories could make gameplay more interesting for this map :D

Land and Sea and Great Lakes have that, I think we should stick to the usual
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby wercool on Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:55 pm

RjBeals wrote:I've already gotten some feedback on my wall style. Some like, some don't. Anyone else care to chime in? I know this is really early, and this isn't even in the drafting room yet - but I still would like a couple of comments. My plans are to balance out the bonus regions more. I'm also going to but a big river right down the center of the map, between the yellow/green and yellow/red areas, leading to that lake. Connect with a few with bridges. Add a theme, not an overwhelming theme, but just to give it an edge. But in the meantime, any feedback on the wall? Is it too sharp?

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nice idea i like both kinds of walls, but i gotta ask whats the 888's mean. you could make it more complacated by adding on. you could add somthing like boats that give you negativ reenforcements that let you attack across water
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:59 pm

but i gotta ask whats the 888's mean.
The 888's are there because thats where the numbers will go, the extra 8 is for the color code version
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby mibi on Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:27 am

It looks kind of boring. The best part about big maps is that you can isolate yourself, turtle on a small bonus. But here you have 10+ territory continents. By the time anyone holds one it will be half in the bag.

If you are going to have a big map, have big quanities of continents, not big in territories.
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby danfrank on Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:50 am

i think a map from the imagination of rjbeals is a great idea.. i would expect it to be visually appealing. I think more of the map makers need to take on fantasy geographical maps . =D . I agree with mibi that the map needs more bonus regions . I look forward to watching this map through the foundry..
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby porkenbeans on Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:00 am

I like the look of this map very much. Artistically, It is superior to anything coming out of the foundry lately. I especially like the old map feel with the burnt edges. Why don't you see what it looks like with with that effect, more pronounced. But only on the outside interior of the continents. Also I will bet you a dollar, that the water would look excellent on this map, if it were BLACK. This combination of effects may work well for this map.

=D> It looks like a great start. good luck with this one. :D
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby RjBeals on Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:33 am

All good feedback - thanks. Mibi, I intend to break the bonus regions up for sure. I don't expect to have regions that big.
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby mibi on Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:30 am

You could make the lakes and such playable with a neutral count of 10 or so. Realistically, there are very few natual barriers to invading armies. Land or sea. It's just that by sea takes more effort.
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby RjBeals on Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:46 pm

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Still trying to nail down my concept.

I think I'm going to create several same-color bonus regions in each color (for example, there will be 3 in yellow, each with 8 territories). The legend will be simple, for each 8-territ sector, you receive +4 bonus, own the entire colored region, you receive +15? or some nonsense. Maybe no other bonus for owning full color - thats pretty impossible anyway. Still thinking about impassables.
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby LED ZEPPELINER on Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:20 pm

absoultey stunning, the bridges are really cool, as for impassables, i like the bricks, its unique and cool
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby porkenbeans on Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:39 pm

RjBeals wrote:
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Still trying to nail down my concept.

I think I'm going to create several same-color bonus regions in each color (for example, there will be 3 in yellow, each with 8 territories). The legend will be simple, for each 8-territ sector, you receive +4 bonus, own the entire colored region, you receive +15? or some nonsense. Maybe no other bonus for owning full color - thats pretty impossible anyway. Still thinking about impassables.
Another great design by RJ.
A thought for you brother. If you are going to have the bridges in relief, (I like,by the way), maybe a small bevel on the land areas would be appropriate ?
Good job, as always. 8-)
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby RjBeals on Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:56 pm

porkenbeans wrote: If you are going to have the bridges in relief, (I like,by the way), maybe a small bevel on the land areas would be appropriate ?


Thanks p&b - I experimented with the bevel, but I think it looks better flat.
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby Barry Zuckerkorn on Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:51 pm

the bridges do look better flat...thanks for the pronounceable names
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby whitestazn88 on Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:00 am

i like the idea of a big map. i'm fine with you creating it from your own imagination. but i'm not too keen on the graphics looking similar to centerscape.

that being said, i'm sure you can make another theme and idea and it will be great. looking forward to where this is going because i'm a big fan of big maps
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby RjBeals on Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:13 am

whitestazn88 wrote: ...but i'm not too keen on the graphics looking similar to centerscape.


Let me think about this. This is surely in the same style as centerscape, but to me different enough to stand on it's own. In a way I don't mind the graphics being the same, and in a way I do.
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Re: Big Map (2nd Draft)

Postby ustus on Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:13 am

i think the theme feels different to me, but the graphical style feels related... i'm not sure how similar, i don't claim to be an expert, but deff. related. Personally, i don't think it's a bad thing.
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Re: Big Map (Centerscape Draft ?!?!)

Postby oVo on Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:32 am

It is a good looking start... color scheme is easy on the eyes
and I like the idea of another 100+ territory map too.
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Re: Big Map (Centerscape Draft ?!?!)

Postby jleonnn on Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:29 am

Hey, I like it too, you should go on with development and post this in the drafting room. They'll like your talent! :D
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Re: Big Map (Centerscape Draft ?!?!)

Postby RjBeals on Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:39 am

jleonnn wrote:Hey, I like it too, you should go on with development and post this in the drafting room. They'll like your talent! :D


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Re: Big Map (Centerscape Draft ?!?!)

Postby Tisha on Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:50 am

everything you work on is great.. i love the bridges... the gray one is a little messed though

what about the size on this? looks like you have the width and the height backwards
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Re: Big Map (Centerscape Draft ?!?!)

Postby RjBeals on Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:59 am

Tisha wrote:everything you work on is great.. i love the bridges... the gray one is a little messed though

what about the size on this? looks like you have the width and the height backwards


Thanks Tish -
na - i'm using the max size.

2. LARGE MAP: WIDTH up to 840 px ; HEIGHT 800 px.
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