***Finn Rock Fallout*** -- Game Over ~ Infected Win

[XenHu]

What is QFE?

Quoted fotr Emphasis


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[Freetymes]

Well I am out...

After a lot of readin and no input I have come to the conclusion that MB is calling out everybody but has struck on something in Broom.

Broom leaves little to go on and he seems to answer MB's questions but when scrutinized his posts do little more than confuse issues and that is the job of the Mafia right? Also he was so outspoken in the beginning and now seems to sit and wait only showing up to defend himself.

Wicked and Houssam are a topic for tomorrow when the dust of this night settles, if they survive.

I worry about Bogus and Xen but I can not, nor has anyone else, put a reason out there that is conclusive enough to suit me.

I trust RK but for someone everyone trusts he sure is quiet.

Trestain and Moz have been consistant but Moz has missed crucial voting and Trestain moves from who he suspects too easily.

So where am I? Well a no Lynch vote is out of the question so I will vote who I think is the most guilty as of now...

VOTE BROOM

[wicked]

You guys forgot that Broom was the first to quote the townie's win condition. How would he know that if he wasn't a townie?

[Machiavelli]

On the subject of Master Bush, all he has been doing is throwing out names.


All he does is accuses people, and then he waits to see if anyone will go along with him.


That way, he will always be able to say "I started the movement to lynch so-and-so"


The only person who I think has never been accused by him is Hussom, I cant think of another Person who was not accused by him.

[moz976]

On the subject of Master Bush, all he has been doing is throwing out names.


All he does is accuses people, and then he waits to see if anyone will go along with him.


That way, he will always be able to say "I started the movement to lynch so-and-so"


The only person who I think has never been accused by him is Hussom, I cant think of another Person who was not accused by him.

You know I was looking at that too. He has accused almost everyone just today and changed his vote 3 times. He seems to be throwing out names to see which one will stick.

[XenHu]

You guys forgot that Broom was the first to quote the townie's win condition. How would he know that if he wasn't a townie?

Because, the townie's win condition is(always) to kill the mafia....(So, if he's mafia, he knows he has CH-2 which must mean the town has to kill all people with CH-2(i.e the mafia)..


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[wicked]

Let's go with odds. Chances are there's at least one mafia in each place. At the beginning of today (starts page 75ish), someone said (note: let's find this out) all mafia could be at one place. This is a ridiculous claim, since there's most likely more than 3, so they can't all be from the hospital (see my QFE). I think whoever claimed that is trying to point blaim away from themselves.

Back to odds. Since I know I'm not mafia, this leaves the best odds for my vote in the Towers, as that leaves only 3 people:

dagreatbroomhead (T)
Freetymes (T)
trestain (T)

Broom quoting the win condition makes him less suspicious to me. That leaves two:

Freetymes
trestain

I will vote for either of those two. FOS on both.

[wicked]

You guys forgot that Broom was the first to quote the townie's win condition. How would he know that if he wasn't a townie?

Because, the townie's win condition is(always) to kill the mafia....(So, if he's mafia, he knows he has CH-2 which must mean the town has to kill all people with CH-2(i.e the mafia)..

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That doesn't mean a mafia knows the win condition of the townie just b/c he knows what he he's infected with. No one knew going in if we'd be dealing with both chi-1 and chi-2 infecteds. Could just be a lucky guess, but makes him look slightly less suspicious in my book.

[wicked]

What if our assumption that there is a mafia in every area is all wrong? What if they are all from the same area? Like a hospital? where people are accidentally infected all the time? Where those that were there may have been forced to try the new vaccine? Any one can say they got there at the last minute but... just a theory but we decided early on that there were mafia in each area with no real evidence as proof.

let's discuss Free.

[trestain]

vote-dagreatbroomhead

for now he looks the most likely

[wicked]

P.S. as I re-looked over my PM I saw my mission, eliminate all CHI -2 infected people, meaning that they are our targets, they are our mafia, these are the ones we need to kill. At least as I understand it.

page 18, day 1

[XenHu]

P.S. as I re-looked over my PM I saw my mission, eliminate all CHI -2 infected people, meaning that they are our targets, they are our mafia, these are the ones we need to kill. At least as I understand it.

page 18, day 1

That doesn't prove anything...By page 18, we had a pretty good understanding of the virus(IMO)...

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[wicked]

That doesn't prove anything...By page 18, we had a pretty good understanding of the virus(IMO)...

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you, who haven't been sure of anything and keep claiming noobness, had a clear understanding of the virus by page 18?

[XenHu]

That doesn't prove anything...By page 18, we had a pretty good understanding of the virus(IMO)...

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???????????????????????????

you, who haven't been sure of anything and keep claiming noobness, had a clear understanding of the virus by page 18?

Just because I am a noob to the game doesn't mean I can't understand the background info... And I didn't say 'clear,' I said 'pretty good'(there is a difference)..

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[XenHu]

I'll be away from the comp for a bit.. I expect to be back sometime around 6(give or take)...


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[HoussamTheGreat]

OK.. been thinking about this for 18 hours. The more I think about it the more it still stinks.

What we have before us is Wicked playing what amounts to an insanity defense as the jury was ready to
come back with a verdict. A judge would not accept that - the town should not accept that.

Everything about this stinks..
First, she "explained" the baby story as if this was the only issue at hand - while in fact, I didn't even
mention the baby beyond the first few pages.

Second.. this is how she claimed the confusion came about:
"I was told I was in court fighting over my baby, the inn."

yet, when she first explained her role, she said that we were in a bitter custody battle over
"our child, whom I love and cherish dearly, and she just has no time for"

This is a long way from not seeing a comma! Are we to believe that she also mistakenly made up facts.

I even pressed after that for more details. I asked her what our child's name was. If she had so much as looked
at her PM again, she would have discovered according to her that our child's name is "the inn"- and we would have
cleared that up as early as page 15!

It is also ot be noted that in what must be 10 pages of bitter battling between us yesterday, she only checked
and reinterpreted her role after I named ALL my mafia suspects. I think she realized that I was going to gain
credibility and that killing me or having me lynched will just focus the suspicions on those people. The only
way out of this was cooking up something that would make both of us look clean for now. that's when
she and her friends came up with the "I was drunk every time I read my role" defense.

Remember people - this is THE SAME WICKED who had been arguing on at least 4 occasions how it's important to get
people talking - and how we will uncover the mafia through inconsistencies in little details in their PMs. That's
a big mistake to make for a whole week.

Furthermore, once she miraculously had the revelation and "understood" there was no baby, I suddenly became OK.
There were tens of accusations that I was flip flopping - and I was not taking positions - and and and.. all
those suddenly disappeared.

In addition to that, this is NOT about explaining away the non-existent baby. This is about her making every
wrong choice throughout the game as I explained in my earlier post.
Siding with people she should not have sided with - inciting against people she should not have incited against.
I know - hindsight is 20/20 - but this consistency cannot be a coincidence. You know what, if it is, she should
be lynched for jinx!!

I say, one way or the other, the town is better off without the crazy innkeeper. I am keeping my vote, and
imploring you to join me.

[wicked]

I didn't say you became OK, just that I no longer had hard proof, so was dropping it. You're right, it doesn't make you automatically innocent.

Whenever I wrote about what was in my PM, I wasn't quoting, or even looking at it. It's been on my hard drive at home, not saved in my inbox. Only when you came forward with more details about yours, did I go back and really re-read mine last night and saw my blunder.

Sorry dear, I'm not perfect, never claimed to be. I'm not going to argue with you over this anymore though. Yes, you have a legit case, I came across as a crazy blonde. I'm not surprised to see you jump at this chance to get me out of the game easily. But keep in mind, by doing so, my death will kill you once my role is revealed.

[AndyDufresne]

Vote Count

• [1] Bogusbet -- (Reverend_kyle)
• [1] Houssam -- (Bogusbet)
• [1] Wicked -- (Houssam)
• [4] Broomhead -- (Master Bush, Xenhu, Freetymes, Trestain)
  
• [4] Not Voting, Everyone Else

6 Total Votes are needed for a Lynch or No Lynch


--Andy

[Master Bush]

On the subject of Master Bush, all he has been doing is throwing out names.

Since this day started, I have thrown out 4 Names. 2 I believe are mafia (broom and bogus) 1 who I think might be mafia (you) and one I changed my mind on (trestain)

All he does is accuses people, and then he waits to see if anyone will go along with him.

That's what most people do in most mafia games. They throw someone's name out there, and wait to see if someone can help prove it, or come and prove it wrong.

That way, he will always be able to say "I started the movement to lynch so-and-so"

If you go back and read, you will see where I keep telling people that we need to lynch autoload or AK over and over again, to found out who was lying. Why would I do that, if it would lead to AK being found out about beibg mafia, if I was mafia?

The only person who I think has never been accused by him is Hussom, I cant think of another Person who was not accused by him.

Cram, Xenhu, backglass and rev kyle are people I never accused of being mafia. Which is weird, cause 2 have been found out to be townies, and everyone now believes kyle is a towie for sure.

[wicked]

MB, so the fact Broom was first to throw out the win condition means nothing to you?

Weren't you accusing Tres yesterday? Why the switch? Not being accusatory, I just don't feel like going back to re-read.

[Master Bush]

I went back and re-read the thread, and a couple of times, trestain throw out AK and REV as being Mafia, and said we need to lynch one of them.

[Master Bush]

MB, so the fact Broom was first to throw out the win condition means nothing to you?

How hard is it to guess the townie's win condition? If you're mafia you know you have been infected with CHI -2. So you know that the townie's win condition is to eliminate all CHI -2 infected people. Not only that, but remember, AK and Rev were talking via PM. So Ak could have easily asked Rev what his win condition said, and then shared that info with his other mafia members.

And I already made the connection between AK and Broom all the way back on page 16 with this post I made;

I vote for AK_iceman

Too much backpeddling by him. And I'm pretty sure once he's outed as mafia, my next vote will be for dagreatbroomhead.

I also spotted the weird connection with Wicked and HOUSSAM going after each other for no reason at all, all the way back on page 13 when wicked made this post;

VOTE HOUSSAM for personal reasons... I know he doesn't have time to play this right now and at this point any vote is just a guess anyway, so why not get rid of the non-contributing members.

And then after she UNVOTED for him, I replied with this post;

That said, UNVOTE HOUSSAM, because at least I know he's telling the truth, and there are more suspicious people out there right now. And no, we are not masons, lest some mafia think that's a good reason to kill us!!

The first vote for HOUSSAM seems weird to me. Not sure what that was all about.

[XenHu]

How hard is it to guess the townie's win condition? If you're mafia you know you have been infected with CHI -2. So you know that the townie's win condition is to eliminate all CHI -2 infected people.

My point exactly.



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[wicked]

Well Xenhu, that part of it I still disagree with, based on experiences in past games. However, the RK part makes sense, so he can clear this up.

RK... did IC ever ask you your win condition?

[XenHu]

*wicked*,

Has any of this helped you come to a decsion? I don't think we have much Daytime left.... You should vote soon(Preferably Broom)



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