Jason.X/Gideon.G/Mickey.M/Wanted.W/200USD: multis[busted]

by **owenator** on Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:34 am

As per the subject heading, the players have been accused of being multis.

Accused:

Jason.X
Gideon.G
Mickey.M
Wanted.W
2000USD
BoomBoomBoom
Madoff
Good Company
Dundee - 14 games completed and he has a 50% rate and mostly plays Feudal WITH knowledge of a strategy so soon?!!
The.Yeti - found another one. 12 games completed, 50% won, again plays Feudal with the knowledge/strategy of an experienced player
Big Bowser - after 15 games, 47% win percentage, and again knowledge/strategy of an experienced player

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 4567067
Game 4623374
Game 4648349
Game 4466186
Game 4655151
Game 4648156
Game 4612225
Game 4560684
Game 4646883

Comments:

The players have all been foed by me simply because I suspected them of being multis. As soon as I foe'd them one by one, I consequently was rated all "1's" just for that reason alone. You will find that with the exception of 2000USD that the remaining accused have joined on similar dates. If this doesn't raise any alarms, perhaps the names with the dots in between them, or their ability to be able to have a penchant for the same maps: Feudal, and the knowledge/strategy at such an early beginning of their account creation to have the "experience" to simply build and bombard on 6 player Feudal games. It appears that the accused have the ability to have some sort of proxy to block their originating country as they all have different countries.

by **JCKing** on Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:09 pm

This does seem extremely weird that they would know only 80 games or less in to their CC playing time about the feudal war strategy. Though it is possible to have learned the strategy through other friends on Conquerclub. I'm not sure how mods can see through a proxy but, I'm sure they can do that. Anyway I'm not completely sure these are multis of each other, just because you foed them and they gave you all 1 star ratings doesn't mean they are multis, likewise just b/c they have periods in their names does not mean they are multis. There will need to be more proof, such as like same IP's, or if the mods can view when they signed on.

by **owenator** on Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:18 pm

JCKing wrote:This does seem extremely weird that they would know only 80 games or less in to their CC playing time about the feudal war strategy. Though it is possible to have learned the strategy through other friends on Conquerclub. I'm not sure how mods can see through a proxy but, I'm sure they can do that. Anyway I'm not completely sure these are multis of each other, just because you foed them and they gave you all 1 star ratings doesn't mean they are multis, likewise just b/c they have periods in their names does not mean they are multis. There will need to be more proof, such as like same IP's, or if the mods can view when they signed on.

JC, all of these players immediately were blocked after I finally gave in to not caring about freemiums joining my 6 player feudals, let alone their suspicious winning percentage in such a short time. However, once they started to suicide for no reason on me, especially when there was no strategy to it, I simply foed them. Upon doing so, I was given poor ratings, which I could care less. But to have ALL of them give me the exact same ratings after I foed them all? Sure maybe not enough, but that's why I referred to the names with the "dots" in between them. I mean, we're talking about names so strikingly familiar, it's his/her "signature". Similar to that of "invaders" (aka Ramned) or "manimal" (aka *manimal). Then, there's the fact that the account creation dates are so close to each other, and then the fact that they're all fremmium accounts? My point is there is too much evidence AGAINST these accounts that would suggest very strongly that they are indeed one and the same person. Getting a proxy to cover one's original country is not very difficult. And I'm sure there are good hackers or computer geeks, enough to find a way to block their IP's...if not eventually. Once a cheater.....

by **JCKing** on Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:15 pm

Yes like i said sounds fishy to me. I didn't mean that you were wrong. Though I must have missed the fact that they all starting aimlessly attacking u for no reason. That seems very suspicious. I'm looking forward to seeing this verdict.

by **king sam** on Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:30 pm

I think you have a solid case to be looked into here owenator, and I agree and think what JCking is trying to say is that there are a lot of coincidences between these accounts, but more evidence will have to surface to prove that there are 1 person.

Games that these users are in together:

Game 4250281

Game 4088550 (Freestyle)

Mickey.M

Madoff

Game 4387765 (Freestyle)

2000USD

Wanted.W

With this evidence I think its pretty safe to say they know each other, and might go out of the way not to play each others accounts too much, whether it be one multi or not is yet to be determined.

The freestyle matches will help show true signs of whether this is indeed one person or not.

Hope I helped, Good Luck

King Sam

by **DarthBlood** on Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:38 pm

if you check the games mickey.m played, the first 20 or so games were with one person. all 1v1 feudals, against robertvandyke. and of the 20 or so games, robert won ONE game. that is pretty suspicious. either that, or robert just sucks on feudal.

by **owenator** on Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:47 pm

DarthBlood wrote:if you check the games mickey.m played, the first 20 or so games were with one person. all 1v1 feudals, against robertvandyke. and of the 20 or so games, robert won ONE game. that is pretty suspicious. either that, or robert just sucks on feudal.

robertvandyke has been "picked" on by a lot of players because all he plays is 1 vs 1. Feudal...his skill, is certainly questionable, but that's just my opinion. However, most people who play 6 player sequential Feudal games, know that the strategy is simply to build and stack up and card by bombarding a neutral territory, most people who are new to the site and map/game do what is natural instead - attack. So, that should in itself raise more suspicion than anything else. NO one else has played more Feudal games than I have, and I know most players who frequent this map obviously, and so when someone has this strategy so early, of course I'm going to get a little suspicious.