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JimRocky wrote:Well I only ever had, (except very rare occasions), 20 games going at once. The occasions I had more than that it was just a few more because I had games that I knew were about to end and joined a new one early. I practically never play speed games, and I've never found a regular partner to play team games with. Not to mention that I usually played 7 and 8 player games, which means even with 20 games active I wasn't taking that many turns. Yet I still have to pay as much as people who play speed games all the time, with their full load of regular games going too. Why should I pay as much as those who get more value than myself? Well I shouldn't; so I won't for now. Maybe I'll get bored with my four free games and re-up, but maybe not. Maybe there will be a Economy membership added? Say for $10-$15 I can play my 20 max games and no speed games. Maybe not, but I wouldn't hesitate to pay that. I'm just not sure $25 is fair for the value I receive, when other get so much more for their money.
Maybe I'm not wanted around here anyway. Dunno...
drunkmonkey wrote:I honestly wonder why anyone becomes a mod on this site. You're the whiniest bunch of players imaginable.
Ron Burgundy wrote:Why don't you go back to your home on Whore Island?
drunkmonkey wrote:I honestly wonder why anyone becomes a mod on this site. You're the whiniest bunch of players imaginable.
Ron Burgundy wrote:Why don't you go back to your home on Whore Island?
Rabid bunnies wrote:I could be wrong but isn't it like any membership? I have a membership at our local gym and I pay just over 30$ per month to attend. I can go anytime I'd like. I have access to the full resources of the establishment.
I have a tendency to go 4 times a week (sometimes only 3) for about 2 hours each time. I pay the same 30$ that my friend Victoria pays. She goes 6 times a week for upwards of 3 hours a day. On the same hand, Jared goes only twice a weak for 1.5-2 hours at a time and he pays the same 30$.
I haven't ever had premium membership, I've never played a speed game or anything of the sort so I could be missing something but isn't the 25$ what you pay to "have access to the resources" of a premium membership? I don't say I should pay less than Victoria because I don't go as often as she does, Jared doesn't say he should pay less than me because he goes less than I do. The service of the gym is offered to anyone paying the 30$ and we all make do with what our schedule allows.
Is premium the same way? Everyone pays the same ammount of money and in exchange for that ammount of money, you all get the same resources provided. Whether or not you "go 6 days a week or 2 days a week" doesn't change the fact that for "X" ammount of dollars you have the "package" available to you.
Someone tell me if I'm wrong but I don't think you get "less value" than someone else. You might not "use as much value" as someone else does, but to say you don't get it seems kind of funny to me. At the gym all 3 of us get access 7 days a week 15 hours a day for our 30$. We may not use it... but we don't get any less value. It's still available to us.
So if I have interpreted it right, you pay 25$ to be able to play unlimited games and speed games anytime. Just like anyone else does.
(Pick a name... any name uhhh...) A.sub pays 25$ and plays 50 games at a time and 2 or 3 speed games in a row if he wants.
(Pick another, any other...) Woodruff pays 25$ and plays 5 games at a time and maybe 8 or 9 speed games in the span of a few hours.
I would say everyone pays the same ammount to have access to the unlimited games and the speed games. No matter how often you make use of it, it is still available to you. Someone else may indeed seek more for their money. Victoria surely gets more out of her 30$ a week than I do but that's because I choose not to do any more. It is the same with Jared. He has access to as much of the gym as he wants but he only "wants" a small ammount. It's not that the gym is offering him less for his money, it's that he's taking less advantage.
To take less advantage of something is not to mean that you are not being given the same valueYou simply decide if you want unlimited games and speed or not. And if you do... I suppose you pay 25$ and then play to your heart's content
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(Unless you're me... or Selucid lol... then you harrass and abuse Woodruff to tell you when you can join a tournament to try to win premium. I'm not one to preach, I haven't paid for premium membership and probably won't but if I did, I'd be paying the 25$ for the "accessability" of the resources of premium membership. That's the package you buy when you pay 25$. You buy the ability to play as much as you want.)
obliterationX wrote:If you play speed games, find yourself a partner for doubles games, and have fun, then you aren't wasting your money. I doubt Lack would reduce the price of premium for speciality players who only want to play certain types of game. When you bought premium membership, what aspects of the site were you looking to play? Have you fulfilled your goals? If so, then maybe it is indeed a waste of money for you to get premium again.
Don't sit there complaining -- get value for money.
Optimus Prime wrote:You know, I think it would be funny if there were someone around here who went around purposefully buying premium for everyone who says it isn't worth it to them to re-up their membership. I'm just sayin' is all.
TheBro wrote:Optimus Prime wrote:You know, I think it would be funny if there were someone around here who went around purposefully buying premium for everyone who says it isn't worth it to them to re-up their membership. I'm just sayin' is all.
I do not think premium is worth it. I will flip out if anyone buys for me.
JimRocky wrote:Well I only ever had, (except very rare occasions), 20 games going at once. The occasions I had more than that it was just a few more because I had games that I knew were about to end and joined a new one early. I practically never play speed games, and I've never found a regular partner to play team games with. Not to mention that I usually played 7 and 8 player games, which means even with 20 games active I wasn't taking that many turns. Yet I still have to pay as much as people who play speed games all the time, with their full load of regular games going too. Why should I pay as much as those who get more value than myself? Well I shouldn't; so I won't for now. Maybe I'll get bored with my four free games and re-up, but maybe not. Maybe there will be a Economy membership added? Say for $10-$15 I can play my 20 max games and no speed games. Maybe not, but I wouldn't hesitate to pay that. I'm just not sure $25 is fair for the value I receive, when other get so much more for their money.
Maybe I'm not wanted around here anyway. Dunno...
AAFitz wrote:I simply feel guilty only paying $25 for what I get out of, and demand out of CC.
Herbas wrote:My position as a new CC member.
I'm fairly hooked and I think about premium membership from time to time, however I can't justify $25 for a year to myself. It's not about that $25 is much to me. The thing is that I don't need something for the whole year. About 8 months in a year I will not play much CC as there will be simply no time for that. So that's 66% of my payment will go "wasted". That's the main obstacle for me.
Ok, you may say that the essence of premium membership is to support CC creators and help them develop and run this fantastic game. I fully agree with that as I had purchased such premium accounts in other games/services (and in most cases not for using additional benefits that come with premium accounts, but just for supporting developers). Now my "personal" problem with not wanting to overpay by 66% for just supporting CC developers is that CC is still relatively low among my interests/hobbies and, you know, I can't spend money everywhere just for "being generous". So at this moment I want to enjoy every dollar I spend in CC.
Why not suggest $5/mo premium (or 10$/quarter, etc.) accounts? From financial perspective, it's twice more lucrative for developers than $25/year. $5 is so little that by spending that you're thinking "ok, I will just drink 1 less beer" and it won't be followed by a thought "yeah, but the majority of payment will be wasted". To pay something for a year is just a too big "commitment" for new members. Generally, you need to be quite a big CC fan to convince himself/herself that it's worth to buy an account for the whole year. Why not offer something for more hesitant members? I'm quite sure that there will be quite many people who will want to try that premium account for a short period and some of them will later buy yearly premium accounts.
Or would they ?JimRocky wrote:Rabid bunnies wrote:I could be wrong but isn't it like any membership? I have a membership at our local gym and I pay just over 30$ per month to attend. I can go anytime I'd like. I have access to the full resources of the establishment.
I have a tendency to go 4 times a week (sometimes only 3) for about 2 hours each time. I pay the same 30$ that my friend Victoria pays. She goes 6 times a week for upwards of 3 hours a day. On the same hand, Jared goes only twice a weak for 1.5-2 hours at a time and he pays the same 30$ ... <snipped>
Yes I see your point, but that's why I DON'T join gyms or pay the high price for all you can eat buffet, when I know that I won't eat an amount of food that would make it worth it. Being a light eater it really annoys me.A smart gym operator would offer reduced priced limited memberships for those who don't workout 6 days a week, and never use the (whatever premium feature here). Then they'd get more income while losing nothing.
Sperpurber wrote:If people spent all of their time creating sliding scales for services, modern society would be mired in a sea of needless bureaucracy...or at least more so than it already is.
xelabale wrote:Sperpurber wrote:If people spent all of their time creating sliding scales for services, modern society would be mired in a sea of needless bureaucracy...or at least more so than it already is.
No, because an optimum level would/will/has been reached. There are many scaled payment options around for all sorts of things. It shouldn't exist and be needless because that's bad business practice. I think it's a good idea. Freemies could try the site for virtually nothing, say 5 bucks. They'll be psychologically committed to the site then. I would expect it to improve CC's bottom line.
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