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Incandenza wrote:Yeah, I think the San Juan - Limon border could be moved a bit west, maybe have it come down from that little dip in the rio san jose border...
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maritovw wrote:my native language is spanish, and i have a couple corrections...also, i'm from Guatemala and "Xela" is just a short name for a city named "Xelajú", so i think you should rename that territory (i mentioned this a long time ago, but it was never addressed)...
- "Canál" is misspelled, it should be "Canal", without the accent on the last "a" ...
- "Rio San Juan" is misspelled, it shoud be "Río", with the accent on the "i"
- "Islas de la Bahia" is misspelled, it should be "Bahía", with the accent on the last "i"
- If you are spelling the country names in spanish, "Panama" should have an accent on the last "a", "Panamá"
great map by the way!! i'm looking forward to it!
Incandenza wrote:While adding a terit to el salvador isn't a bad idea, I tend to think that nicaragua can stay the way it is... given the sea lanes, this'll be a pretty easy map to move around in
lgoasklucyl wrote:iancanton wrote:anyone who starts in nicaragua is at an obvious disadvantage: as well as being stuck in the middle of the map, it isn't next to a tiny bonus. we can reduce this disadvantage by merging 4 of nicaragua's regions into 2 (merge RAAN with RAAS and jinotega with chinandega, perhaps?).
The bonus would probably need to be slightly reduce in this instance, no? While it can still be attack via sea routes, it would only have 2 borders in the north and south, and if someone held the bonuses 6 total. Unsure where to go with this one. Personally, I think I've grown to like the blob in the center of the map.
lgoasklucyl wrote:iancanton wrote:i also think there would be fewer starting issues if the 2-region el salvador bonus became a 3-region one by adding santa ana in western el salvador (the san salvador troop count can be moved sotuh-east, with the name can going in the sea).
I kind of like the smaller bonuses, so a +2 doesn't give too much away if held for one turn. Are you proposing that the 3rd territ be locked in by the other two? In that instance it may work. (ie: Santa ana and Usultan are borders with San Salvador resting further to the west).
oaktown wrote:I think it might be worthwhile to code El Salvador as starting positions.
lgoasklucyl wrote:iancanton wrote:to restore the starting count of 32 regions, an extra one in guatemala reduces the existing benefit of staring in the north (in 4-player singles, it's always nice to start at one end of a linear map, especially next to two easy bonuses).
I do like this suggestion, is there a geographical way to do this?
lgoasklucyl wrote:Version 8
-Deleted the Guanacaste/San Jose border to make it one territ for a 3 territ +2 bonus; looks kind of ugly though- should I bring the actual land in from the ocean more so it's not such a huge blob? Also, should the name stay San Jose, Guanacaste, or something to encompass both (no idea what the third would be)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/SephSlayer/cr.jpg
RjBeals wrote:lg - did you still wanna chat about the minimap?
Iancanton wrote:in my opinion, where we have 3-region bonus zones, we ought to avoid having a 2-region bonus zone too unless it's graphically necessary, since using start positions doesn't work well in such cases in a 2v2 game. i therefore recommend making el salvador a 3-region bonus zone.
lgoasklucyl wrote:-This still definitely applies as an option if others show interest! Two region bonuses can be a pain in the ass, and three may be the solution we need. Gotta see if anyone else feels it's the way to go or not
AndyDufresne wrote:I'd be fine with El Salvador starting neutral---but I kind of like the chance of getting lucky drop/taking out a player's troops if I've got troops in the adjacent territory.
--Andy
Incandenza wrote:If given the choice, I'd rather see A) a 3-terit el sal or B) a 2-terit el sal with 1 neutral, than a neutral in one of the sea lanes...
lgoasklucyl wrote:I'm telling everyone now- if one of the territs in a two territ bonus starts neutral it will rarely be used. If anything is neutral in a bonus, it should grant at least an extra +1 to merit being grabbed by an experienced team player.
lgoasklucyl wrote:I'm telling everyone now- if one of the territs in a two territ bonus starts neutral it will rarely be used. If anything is neutral in a bonus, it should grant at least an extra +1 to merit being grabbed by an experienced team player.
lgoasklucyl wrote:I'm telling everyone now- if one of the territs in a two territ bonus starts neutral it will rarely be used. If anything is neutral in a bonus, it should grant at least an extra +1 to merit being grabbed by an experienced team player.
AndyDufresne wrote:I'd be fine with El Salvador starting neutral---but I kind of like the chance of getting lucky drop/taking out a player's troops if I've got troops in the adjacent territory.
iancanton wrote:my guatamala geography isn't good enough! the country seems to be one big city with lots of little villages. maybe maritovw might have an idea for an extra region if u decide that u want to do this?
iancanton wrote:perhaps belmopan region ought to be renamed belize city. belmopan is the capital, but belize city is ten times the size.
maritovw wrote:also, i'm from Guatemala and "Xela" is just a short name for a city named "Xelajú", so i think you should rename that territory (i mentioned this a long time ago, but it was never addressed)...
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