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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Wed May 27, 2009 1:31 pm

JJM wrote:
JJM wrote:My top 15 List would be
1. Teddy Roosevelt
2. Lincoln or Coolidge
3. Lincoln or Coolidge
4. Truman or Reagen
5. Truman or Reagen
6. Taylor or Jefferson
7. Taylor or Jefferson
8. James Madison
9. Benjamin Harrison
10. Cleveland
11. G. W. Bush
12. Eisenhower
13. G. H. W. Bush
14. Wasington
15. McKinley
Neanderpaul14 I am suprised you have not said anything.



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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Wed May 27, 2009 1:33 pm

neanderpaul14 wrote:
JJM wrote:
JJM wrote:My top 15 List would be
1. Teddy Roosevelt
2. Lincoln or Coolidge
3. Lincoln or Coolidge
4. Truman or Reagen
5. Truman or Reagen
6. Taylor or Jefferson
7. Taylor or Jefferson
8. James Madison
9. Benjamin Harrison
10. Cleveland
11. G. W. Bush
12. Eisenhower
13. G. H. W. Bush
14. Wasington
15. McKinley
Neanderpaul14 I am suprised you have not said anything.



"anything"
I thought you thought he was the worst.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Wed May 27, 2009 1:36 pm

JJM wrote:
neanderpaul14 wrote:
JJM wrote:
JJM wrote:My top 15 List would be
1. Teddy Roosevelt
2. Lincoln or Coolidge
3. Lincoln or Coolidge
4. Truman or Reagen
5. Truman or Reagen
6. Taylor or Jefferson
7. Taylor or Jefferson
8. James Madison
9. Benjamin Harrison
10. Cleveland
11. G. W. Bush
12. Eisenhower
13. G. H. W. Bush
14. Wasington
15. McKinley
Neanderpaul14 I am suprised you have not said anything.



"anything"
I thought you thought he was the worst.


I do for a fact, and I'm not alone in this regard.

Why T.R. for number 1?? I think he was a fine president but I wouldn't put him up that high.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Wed May 27, 2009 1:41 pm

neanderpaul14 wrote:
JJM wrote:
neanderpaul14 wrote:
JJM wrote:
JJM wrote:My top 15 List would be
1. Teddy Roosevelt
2. Lincoln or Coolidge
3. Lincoln or Coolidge
4. Truman or Reagen
5. Truman or Reagen
6. Taylor or Jefferson
7. Taylor or Jefferson
8. James Madison
9. Benjamin Harrison
10. Cleveland
11. G. W. Bush
12. Eisenhower
13. G. H. W. Bush
14. Wasington
15. McKinley
Neanderpaul14 I am suprised you have not said anything.



"anything"
I thought you thought he was the worst.


I do for a fact, and I'm not alone in this regard.

Why T.R. for number 1?? I think he was a fine president but I wouldn't put him up that high.
He was the "trust buster" and he built the Panama Canal and he made peace between Russia and Japan and he did a lot for conservation and the list goes on. Every President has had their own faults that their admireres are embarrassed to admit for example Lincoln had a prejuduce streak towards Native Amearicans and FDR had the court packing scheme but T.R. was as close to perfect as we can git.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Harry NotSach on Wed May 27, 2009 1:59 pm

I can't take the time to read all these posts, so I don't know how much has been said about Jackson, but I think he was a pretty great president. He shifted the power of the presidency away from the aristocrats toward common man. He broke what he considered a great scam of the time: there was a system in place where the president would appoint a secretary of state who would support him in almost everything. Then at the end of his term the president would do his best to make sure his secretary of state became the next president. A pattern emerged here that Jackson was able to break. Also, the civil war was not just a thing of Lincoln's time. Jackson narrowly averted civil war in the 1830's and the idea of civil war continued to exist until it actually occurred. Finally, Jackson was one tough guy. He survived multiple assassination attempts, at one point beating a would be assassin with his cane. He was physically assaulted and punched in the face. Imagine someone trying to punch a modern president?

Like all presidents though he did some horrible things. He was absolutely brutal to the Indians. He drank and smoked and was involved in all sorts of scandal. But all in all, he pretty much created what became the modern presidency.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Harry NotSach on Wed May 27, 2009 2:01 pm

Also its interesting to note that many people consider Lincoln the greatest president, however when faced with difficult questions Lincoln would quite often revert to his study and admiration of Jackson to guide his decisions.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Wed May 27, 2009 2:11 pm

Harry NotSach wrote:I can't take the time to read all these posts, so I don't know how much has been said about Jackson, but I think he was a pretty great president. He shifted the power of the presidency away from the aristocrats toward common man. He broke what he considered a great scam of the time: there was a system in place where the president would appoint a secretary of state who would support him in almost everything. Then at the end of his term the president would do his best to make sure his secretary of state became the next president. A pattern emerged here that Jackson was able to break. Also, the civil war was not just a thing of Lincoln's time. Jackson narrowly averted civil war in the 1830's and the idea of civil war continued to exist until it actually occurred. Finally, Jackson was one tough guy. He survived multiple assassination attempts, at one point beating a would be assassin with his cane. He was physically assaulted and punched in the face. Imagine someone trying to punch a modern president?

Like all presidents though he did some horrible things. He was absolutely brutal to the Indians. He drank and smoked and was involved in all sorts of scandal. But all in all, he pretty much created what became the modern presidency.


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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Wed May 27, 2009 4:08 pm

Harry NotSach wrote:I can't take the time to read all these posts, so I don't know how much has been said about Jackson, but I think he was a pretty great president. He shifted the power of the presidency away from the aristocrats toward common man. He broke what he considered a great scam of the time: there was a system in place where the president would appoint a secretary of state who would support him in almost everything. Then at the end of his term the president would do his best to make sure his secretary of state became the next president. A pattern emerged here that Jackson was able to break. Also, the civil war was not just a thing of Lincoln's time. Jackson narrowly averted civil war in the 1830's and the idea of civil war continued to exist until it actually occurred. Finally, Jackson was one tough guy. He survived multiple assassination attempts, at one point beating a would be assassin with his cane. He was physically assaulted and punched in the face. Imagine someone trying to punch a modern president?

Like all presidents though he did some horrible things. He was absolutely brutal to the Indians. He drank and smoked and was involved in all sorts of scandal. But all in all, he pretty much created what became the modern presidency.
He was an aristocrat. An aristocrat is a person who believes that a country should be governed by a few wise men. He treated Indians as if they were his subjects. His adminestration was filled with scandal. He didn't even understand debate if someone critizied him he would challenge them to a duel. I will be shocked if you can find one good decission he made durring his entire presidency.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Wed May 27, 2009 4:09 pm

Harry NotSach wrote:Also its interesting to note that many people consider Lincoln the greatest president, however when faced with difficult questions Lincoln would quite often revert to his study and admiration of Jackson to guide his decisions.
Lincoln did not admire any crook.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Wed May 27, 2009 4:11 pm

JJM wrote:
Harry NotSach wrote:I can't take the time to read all these posts, so I don't know how much has been said about Jackson, but I think he was a pretty great president. He shifted the power of the presidency away from the aristocrats toward common man. He broke what he considered a great scam of the time: there was a system in place where the president would appoint a secretary of state who would support him in almost everything. Then at the end of his term the president would do his best to make sure his secretary of state became the next president. A pattern emerged here that Jackson was able to break. Also, the civil war was not just a thing of Lincoln's time. Jackson narrowly averted civil war in the 1830's and the idea of civil war continued to exist until it actually occurred. Finally, Jackson was one tough guy. He survived multiple assassination attempts, at one point beating a would be assassin with his cane. He was physically assaulted and punched in the face. Imagine someone trying to punch a modern president?

Like all presidents though he did some horrible things. He was absolutely brutal to the Indians. He drank and smoked and was involved in all sorts of scandal. But all in all, he pretty much created what became the modern presidency.
He was an aristocrat. An aristocrat is a person who believes that a country should be governed by a few wise men. He treated Indians as if they were his subjects. His adminestration was filled with scandal. He didn't even understand debate if someone critizied him he would challenge them to a duel. I will be shocked if you can find one good decission he made durring his entire presidency.



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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Wed May 27, 2009 4:13 pm

neanderpaul14 wrote:
JJM wrote:
Harry NotSach wrote:I can't take the time to read all these posts, so I don't know how much has been said about Jackson, but I think he was a pretty great president. He shifted the power of the presidency away from the aristocrats toward common man. He broke what he considered a great scam of the time: there was a system in place where the president would appoint a secretary of state who would support him in almost everything. Then at the end of his term the president would do his best to make sure his secretary of state became the next president. A pattern emerged here that Jackson was able to break. Also, the civil war was not just a thing of Lincoln's time. Jackson narrowly averted civil war in the 1830's and the idea of civil war continued to exist until it actually occurred. Finally, Jackson was one tough guy. He survived multiple assassination attempts, at one point beating a would be assassin with his cane. He was physically assaulted and punched in the face. Imagine someone trying to punch a modern president?

Like all presidents though he did some horrible things. He was absolutely brutal to the Indians. He drank and smoked and was involved in all sorts of scandal. But all in all, he pretty much created what became the modern presidency.
He was an aristocrat. An aristocrat is a person who believes that a country should be governed by a few wise men. He treated Indians as if they were his subjects. His adminestration was filled with scandal. He didn't even understand debate if someone critizied him he would challenge them to a duel. I will be shocked if you can find one good decission he made durring his entire presidency.



Andrew Jackson wrote: I challenge you to a duel...
seriously I wonder how J.Q.Adams survived the presidencial debates.
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Wed May 27, 2009 4:21 pm

JJM wrote:
neanderpaul14 wrote:
JJM wrote:
Harry NotSach wrote:I can't take the time to read all these posts, so I don't know how much has been said about Jackson, but I think he was a pretty great president. He shifted the power of the presidency away from the aristocrats toward common man. He broke what he considered a great scam of the time: there was a system in place where the president would appoint a secretary of state who would support him in almost everything. Then at the end of his term the president would do his best to make sure his secretary of state became the next president. A pattern emerged here that Jackson was able to break. Also, the civil war was not just a thing of Lincoln's time. Jackson narrowly averted civil war in the 1830's and the idea of civil war continued to exist until it actually occurred. Finally, Jackson was one tough guy. He survived multiple assassination attempts, at one point beating a would be assassin with his cane. He was physically assaulted and punched in the face. Imagine someone trying to punch a modern president?

Like all presidents though he did some horrible things. He was absolutely brutal to the Indians. He drank and smoked and was involved in all sorts of scandal. But all in all, he pretty much created what became the modern presidency.
He was an aristocrat. An aristocrat is a person who believes that a country should be governed by a few wise men. He treated Indians as if they were his subjects. His adminestration was filled with scandal. He didn't even understand debate if someone critizied him he would challenge them to a duel. I will be shocked if you can find one good decission he made durring his entire presidency.



Andrew Jackson wrote: I challenge you to a duel...
seriously I wonder how J.Q.Adams survived the presidencial debates.



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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby joecoolfrog on Wed May 27, 2009 4:22 pm

JJM

Did your school not teach English Grammar or spelling :o
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Wed May 27, 2009 4:34 pm

joecoolfrog wrote:JJM

Did your school not teach English Grammar or spelling :o



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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby zebraman on Wed May 27, 2009 6:25 pm

Andrew Jackson wrote: I challenge you to a duel...


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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby jonesthecurl on Wed May 27, 2009 8:00 pm

zebraman wrote:
Andrew Jackson wrote: I challenge you to a duel...


JJM wrote:Maik it a spehling be and I well aksept


Question 1: how do you spell "Jim"?
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby pimpdave on Wed May 27, 2009 8:32 pm

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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby SultanOfSurreal on Wed May 27, 2009 9:25 pm

JJM wrote:Oh thats why you said that. I'm in a hotel without a dictonary so I can't look it up. ( also quit calling me Jim.)


shame. it's really too bad that you don't have access to the internet, you could have looked it up there
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby neanderpaul14 on Wed May 27, 2009 9:27 pm

SultanOfSurreal wrote:
JJM wrote:Oh thats why you said that. I'm in a hotel without a dictonary so I can't look it up. ( also quit calling me Jim.)


shame. it's really too bad that you don't have access to the internet, you could have looked it up there



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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Captain_Scarlet on Thu May 28, 2009 5:46 am

jonesthecurl wrote:
zebraman wrote:
Andrew Jackson wrote: I challenge you to a duel...


JJM wrote:Maik it a spehling be and I well aksept


Question 1: how do you spell "Jim"?


obviously in North Datoka it is spelt JJM


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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Almo on Thu May 28, 2009 7:34 am

voted reagan to piss you off
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby SultanOfSurreal on Thu May 28, 2009 7:38 am

Almo wrote:voted reagan to piss you off


on the contrary i think it's hilarious
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby notyou2 on Thu May 28, 2009 7:40 am

who?????
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby Almo on Thu May 28, 2009 7:41 am

SultanOfSurreal wrote:
Almo wrote:voted reagan to piss you off


on the contrary i think it's hilarious


you got more emotion invested in this than I do son :|
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Re: who was the greatest american president

Postby JJM on Thu May 28, 2009 9:17 pm

Captain_Scarlet wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
zebraman wrote:
Andrew Jackson wrote: I challenge you to a duel...


JJM wrote:Maik it a spehling be and I well aksept


Question 1: how do you spell "Jim"?


obviously in North Datoka it is spelt JJM


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I meant to put JJM that is my Initials.
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