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bjc23 wrote:In live chat last night, a user came in spurting bigotry-laced comments that would be demeaning to homosexual people if any had happened to be there when he was on. After giving my side to the Bigotry topic started by jiminski and reading everything and giving my two cents, I have come to learn that bigotry offenses have harsher penalties. Three or four times last night, this user (who ironically posted often in the Bigotry thread) made many unruly comments and received multiple warnings. He was given his final warning and yet again, made another comment, but killmanic "didn't see it," although he was a large part of the conversation, debating me on another topic which is unimportant right now. Only after did I point it out did he "kick" him from live chat.
But throughout this whole situation, when this user was making these comments, I asked killmanic why he was given multiple warnings b/c I thought Bigotry offenses were a more serious situation, therefore given steeper penalties. My response? "Chat modding is different than forum modding."
I am relatively new here, so I still don't have a handle on how everything works around here. But is this true? That 36 page thread with many moderators commenting in it means nothing when it comes to live chat? It's okay to make these comments now as long as you're in live chat?
Night Strike wrote:Without screenshot evidence, how do you all know that the new bigotry guidelines weren't being applied in that Live Chat time? Maybe the user was just flaming, and not using bigotry. Not every claim of bigotry is in fact that.
owenshooter wrote:Night Strike wrote:Without screenshot evidence, how do you all know that the new bigotry guidelines weren't being applied in that Live Chat time? Maybe the user was just flaming, and not using bigotry. Not every claim of bigotry is in fact that.
except the poster stated the offender was kicked for bigotry when it was pointed out to killmanic...-0
Night Strike wrote:owenshooter wrote:Night Strike wrote:Without screenshot evidence, how do you all know that the new bigotry guidelines weren't being applied in that Live Chat time? Maybe the user was just flaming, and not using bigotry. Not every claim of bigotry is in fact that.
except the poster stated the offender was kicked for bigotry when it was pointed out to killmanic...-0
So what's the complaint? And why does there need to be a suggestion thread about extending it to Live Chat if, by his own admission, it's how things were handled?
Community Guidelines wrote:Bigotry: Not tolerated at all; no forms of bigotry allowed in live chat or the forums.
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The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:Owen, read the community guidelines. The live chat section already has something regarding bigotry (and it sounds pretty clear cut to me...I'm not sure where somebody could be mistaken by what is said).Community Guidelines wrote:Bigotry: Not tolerated at all; no forms of bigotry allowed in live chat or the forums.
The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:Owen, read the community guidelines. The live chat section already has something regarding bigotry (and it sounds pretty clear cut to me...I'm not sure where somebody could be mistaken by what is said).Community Guidelines wrote:Bigotry: Not tolerated at all; no forms of bigotry allowed in live chat or the forums.
Bruceswar wrote:Lets get this story straight.
1. You came in ranting about how you were unfairly banned, and you wanted a public apology.
2. Killmanic ask you to cool it about 5 or 6 times.
3. He then proceeded to tell you that you should be glad they went back and cleared you. Mistakes happen and to get over it and move on.
4. You still continued to be a pain in the ass.
5. Killmanic finally had enough of you and kicked you.
6. You came back in to do the same thing as before and also ranting on how killmanic was out of line and you would report him for mod abuse.
You were just not a pleasant person to be around. Kill did everything right.
PS. Nobody made racial remarks during this time or sexual remarks..
Dude.nagerous wrote:By the way I would like to note I am nothing to do with the original situation in this thread, and just had issues with 'bjc' tonight. I have no idea who the original poster in this thread is referring to.
n00blet wrote:Dude.nagerous wrote:By the way I would like to note I am nothing to do with the original situation in this thread, and just had issues with 'bjc' tonight. I have no idea who the original poster in this thread is referring to.
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InsomniaRed wrote:Why is the rest all crossed out? (spray-painted out) To be able to take disciplinary action, I would sort of like to see what both sides were saying, however many people were talking. It just seems to incriminate you...if anyone has a clean screenshot of this conversation please send it to me in a PM.
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bjc23 wrote:AAFitz,
First off, let me just say my intention was NOT to attack anyone (killmanic specifically) with my beginning post. What would have been better was just to say "a moderator" instead of actually killmanic's name, so I apologize for that, but what's done is done.
My point was to ask if moderating in the live chat really IS different than moderating in the forums. According to The Fuzzy Pengui who stated, "Bigotry: Not tolerated at all; no forms of bigotry allowed in live chat or the forums," moderating appears that moderating shouldn't be different at all between the two, at least when it comes to bigotry. So it would make sense that something would have been done after the FIRST warning because the punishments are apparently now different for bigotry comments than other offenses. What happened was he was only "kicked" from the live chat and immediately, he came back (and slyly made a couple more comments...)
Obviously it turned out that it wasn't okay for him to make these comments, but the new rules to bigotry offenses were clearly not followed, so I decided to make this thread questioning if moderating is supposed to be different in live chat than in the forums.
I don't want to, nor care to argue people's opinions of killmanic's moderating. I'm sure it's fine, considering he is still a moderator. I was only questioning the actual moderating and if the new bigotry rules were actually going to be followed. The live chat wasn't very busy, he saw the comments.
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