autoload's 19 Player Mafia Game #1 --- Day 1 ---

[supercram]

hmm you don't wanna be killed, mayby you are the killer hmm

FOS supercram

umm...yeah. ok.

[Wisse]

may i ask what voting no lynch means? (i'm new you know) does it means you don't vote on someonte, and let the others choose? (neutral vote?)

[onbekende]

thats what I mean, Wisse is being idiotic.

you may vote for me, but what exactly did I wrong?

[Wisse]

thats what I mean, Wisse is being idiotic.

you may vote for me, but what exactly did I wrong?

srry for that, i am just a new one in this game that doesn't know everything,

but i think he complains about your arguments

[onbekende]

thats what I mean, Wisse is being idiotic.

you may vote for me, but what exactly did I wrong?

srry for that, i am just a new one in this game that doesn't know everything,

but i think he complains about your arguments

there goes my sarcastic nature
shall try to avoid it

[Wisse]

i can't edit it, so i must maked a new one for thsi (srry)
i am going to sleep now i think (in real-live, i know its in this topic day)

[wicked]

I'm really not sure what to make of onbe? Is it the language barrier? I can't understand half his posts?

[onbekende]

then probably language, hear that more

dutch grammar is a bit different from english

[wicked]

For Wisse:

You may Vote: No Lynch – majority votes of this kind are necessary to end the day without a lynch.

Basically if we vote no lynch, no one gets lynched. Yes, it really is that simple.

[Wisse]

For Wisse:

You may Vote: No Lynch – majority votes of this kind are necessary to end the day without a lynch.

Basically if we vote no lynch, no one gets lynched. Yes, it really is that simple.

ok didn't know that, thnx (yeah i am now really going tos sleep i think)

[P Gizzle]

Vote: nyvek

he has seemed VERY suspicious to me...

Sen, you seem suspicious when you post, but maybe that's just me

[wicked]

Nyvek popped in an hour ago just to post, and hasn't posted since. Coming up with excuses Ny?

Vote Nyvek

[Nyvek]

Sorry if the multi quoting got screwed up, my 1st time trying it. Here goes.

Alright, I am leaning towards no vote as with this many people we are far more likely to hit pro-town than mafia. Of course we do not know the number of mafia. I seen it mentioned that we could have more than one group of mafia, wouldn't that mean two people would have died? I am new to this so not entirely sure if no vote is best way to go but could someone point out why it would be bad?

Look at it this way: With nineteen players, we have more of a chance lynching a townie than we do a mafia.. On top of that, we could also lynch a power role. So tell me, how would that get us anywhere?

-X

Both of these points are correct. We do in fact have more chance of hitting town than mafia. The alternative thinking, waiting till our odds are better, to thus better insure a hit on Mafia, correct? Here's where the logic breaks down. This game is about voting to Lynch someone, not, the town gets a free lynch everyday. The mafia gets to take 1 of us out everyday. The game starts out majority town, about 25% mafia, with maybe a neutral role or two. That's the only way Town has a chance to win. What do think is going to happen when the the ratio of Town vs. Mafia gets close to 50/50? Do you think the Mafia is going to vote themselves out? Hell no, and by then it will be too late to do anything about it.

Is nyvek one of the guys playing on mafiascum? that would shed some light on things. Anyone seen him lurking?

lol have you played before Ny?

Honestly, I have never played a game completely of Mafia. Autoload sent me a link to the flash tutorial. From there I joined up at mafiascum and it took me like 4 days just to get into a couple games. I'm on day 1 in all the them. So all in all, I know the rules. I just don't know what to look for yet.

This however is probably unimportant, since we've gone away from the "Who's got experience" theory, to Senfive FOS of, "Nyvek mentioned the word Cop in his post, so he must be a cop-fishing mafia scum."

These 3 players seem to have a connection early on.

Nyvek
onbekende
RD

my vote stays.

Please outline that connection. I'm literaly "dieing to know."

I think we need to lynch NY and see if we got ourselves a mafia. If we do, then it's safe to say that onbekende and maybe RD are mafia as well. If he's not, then we regroup, go back and re-read this thread, and go from there.

Notice how MB just detached himself from the blaim of lynching a townie? Once I'm identified townie, we can go back and read the thread? ie. Back to square 1. How bout, after we find out Nyvek's town, we can look at Nyvek's accusations of RK. How bout looking at why Senfive was so quick to place suspicion on Nyvek? Were 1 of his troops in trouble? Could Senfive be a godfather in this game protecting his thugs? Nobody knows for sure.

Somebody pointed out that I'm just trying to get a townie lynched quickly for the sake of death. If that's true, why the hell did I pick the guy with no votes on him. I coulda just hopped on someone with 1 or 2 and been that much closer. Instead I picked the 1 guy RK, that had no suspicion on him, up to this point. Based on his earlier post of this alleged joke:

lets just kill wicked because she's funnier when she's dead.

Kill?? or lynch, RK? BIIIIG difference! little slip there, eh mafioso?

No theres not.. lynching is a way of killing someone, for example later in this game when I'm talking to my mafia buddies I'll probably say lets lynch... and they wont say, "omgwtfbbq, was that a townie slip"


Oh and Cram I havent voted because we've got time and i'm not sure wicked dunnit.

I still think its a slipup.
Then his defense:

FYI, I was kidding to mock how ridiculous I found wicked saying because I said that I was mafia was.

To me, this seems like a rushed explanantion. The sentence doesn't sound right when said aloud.
Some of the other quotes RK said were:

I was just thinking, would the town win if everyone put vote everyone, because then they'd kill the mafia?

VOTE EVERYONE

VOTE EVERYONE

i think he was kidding.

I was.. because we aren't learning anything new as the same people are posting over and over and new blood arent coming out.

How often do mafia typically say, "I'm mafia"?

honestly.

Oh and I was the one who came up with the vote everyone idea.


because my win condition is have everyone dead.

Oh, my mafia bretheren are wicked and cram, we're trying to confuse you.

And then shortly after, Wicked says:

unvote everyone

RK, your jokes are getting carried away there. are you trying to mess this game up?

Then RK says:

HOF?

Hall of Fame(i think maybe not in mafia), ok I'll stop.

Any idea why Wicked shut him up. Or better yet, why did he comply with her orders? Which one of his quotes could have "ruined the game" ?

All in all, I still believe lynching randomly, myself included, is better than no lynch at all. I applaud those to take decisive action in voting where you feel your suspicions lay, rather than idley sitting back. "If", that was for you MB, I'm comfirmed town, just make sure you use the same aggression towards those who found me suspicious. Watch the voting records. Especially if I get close to lynch and a couple of no-lynchers suddently change their mind.

[Nyvek]

Hey waddya know, wicked wasn't voting till Nyvek got close to Lynch, now she's voting Nyvek.

[onbekende]

you want to get lynched?

unvote
vote: Nyvek

you wanted it

[Nyvek]

No hard feelings Onbek, unless your scum of course
We need to get closer to the truth, and if my death gets us there, so be it.
This is a team game, and if the town wins, I don't have to be alive to share in it.

[onbekende]

I never get to play scum, would probably be bad at it even

[wicked]

Ny, I voted you b/c you hadn't posted yet, which I clearly stated. Now that you have posted, unvote Ny, because you seem less scummy now that you posted. btw, mafia can bandwagon at any point, not just at the end... most seem to jump on in the middle from what I've seen.

For the record, I told RK to shut up b/c joking around is what has almost screwed up other games here. That's why Andy has a "no joking" rule in his mafia games. You can check that out, it's on page 1 of all his games.

[wicked]

p.s. if you had come back after that hour and only posted a sentence or two, I wouldn't have changed my vote. Obviously you spent that hour writing up that post.

[Senfive]

Notice how MB just detached himself from the blaim of lynching a townie? Once I'm identified townie, we can go back and read the thread? ie. Back to square 1. How bout, after we find out Nyvek's town, we can look at Nyvek's accusations of RK. How bout looking at why Senfive was so quick to place suspicion on Nyvek? Were 1 of his troops in trouble? Could Senfive be a godfather in this game protecting his thugs? Nobody knows for sure.

First off I just FOS him due to his quotes as well as anyone else that posted suspicously. could I be a God Father? Where did you get that? I honestly want to know. You claim your noobness yet you know of roles that only veterans would know of? Why is that?

[supercram]

vote count anyone?

[Nyvek]

Point taken.

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out of game

Ps. I imagine this is probably used as a lame excuse, but I really am a Forum newbie. It takes me a long time to put together quoted speeches because I have little practice on them.

[Nyvek]

Point taken.

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out of game

Ps. I imagine this is probably used as a lame excuse, but I really am a Forum newbie. It takes me a long time to put together quoted speeches because I have little practice on them.

Reply to wicked's post.

[onbekende]

no worries Nyvek

to people, I am on GMT +1, and bedtime for me (I put myself to bed, thank you)

besides this

unvote

[wicked]

Ny, hit the "quote" button, then cut and paste that into notepad as you go through.