Player was kicked for breaking the rules??

[derivative133]

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=4992710

What's up with this new development??

thanks,
133

[Caymanmew]

never seen that

[jpcloet]

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=89355&start=0

[jpcloet]

Just started.

[derivative133]

he, he, That dude was a "****" nice.

[derivative133]

How does it work with the cards? I got his. Which is not fair to the other player who is left.

Edit: I was thinking of a different game. I didn't think I had any cards in this game. I am wrong, I didn't get any extra cards.

[owenshooter]

2009-06-15 16:00:17 - jlg70 was kicked out for violating the rules

that is sweet...-0

[oVo]

From now on, inactivated multies will be immediately auto-kicked from their games and will also be auto-dropped from any waiting games. Same goes for members who are given website bans for whatever reason and for whatever length of time. Just like when players are auto-kicked for missing too many turns...

sweet indeed

[derivative133]

OK, What did he do?? As far as I know there are basically 2 rules: No multi, and no secret diplomacy. Are there now other rules?

[pimphawks70]

OK, What did he do?? As far as I know there are basically 2 rules: No multi, and no secret diplomacy. Are there now other rules?

I'm going to say multi...

[Hsur]

How does it work with the cards? I got his. Which is not fair to the other player who is left.

How did you get his cards?

[king sam]

Was any thought given to the effect this can have on the innocent players around the site that are involved in teams games with users that abuses the rules?

My point being is that an unexpected user, and I will use myself as an example in this case, joins a teams game with other users, gets involved in the game and all of a sudden if they are not a frequent visitor to the C&A forum,(or sometimes even if they are) they loose a teammate cause that player has been deemed Guilty of violating CC's rules. I'm glad the consideration is given to give the team the troops and cards of that user but bottom line is I have to continue through a game now one man down.

And this all comes to the average user as a surprise.

For example:
I would consider myself more active then most in the C&A forum where the majority of claims come through about suspected users violating the rules, and I cant recall seeing a claim made on xtratabasco in violation of any rules most recently.

I do recall him receiving a permanent forum ban back at beginning of March. But not a website ban to my knowledge. And as per the new development it stipulates website ban and not forum, unless they are considered one and the same.

From now on, inactivated multies will be immediately auto-kicked from their games and will also be auto-dropped from any waiting games. Same goes for members who are given website bans for whatever reason and for whatever length of time. Just like when players are auto-kicked for missing too many turns, in these cases teammates will inherit troops and spoils, assassin targets will be reassigned, and the final winner will get the points in terminator games.

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Either way in Game 4974136

2009-06-15 17:56:01 - xtratabasco was kicked out for violating the rules

and I have to continue this quads match without a player.

This added tool/development will bring much needed justice to users who are robbed of points from multies but the consequences that this brings will also rob innocent players for the mis-conduct of others.

Now with this in place the current good order to joining games just got more tedious. Not only do I need to scan players that I don't normally play teams games with to see if they

• take their turns
• participate with the team
• have knowledgeable tactics

But now I need to also add

• search for their name in any abuse thread to make sure I don't go man down again unexpectedly

And in most cases since teams games take some time to fill I will need to re-visit searching this and hope they don't get disgruntle and abuse the rules in the time it takes to fill this game or heaven forbid in a non-spoils game to finish it.

I see the light at the end of the tunnel, I'm not disagreeing that something needed to be done to balance the fairness here, but I think your trading one vice for another.

A lot of innocent users will be punished and effected in their games by the actions taken by users that are beyond their control, and most of the time this will all happen unknowingly to them.
To add to it, if the owner who has done the abuse is accused, and found guilty via an E-Ticket it will be unknown to all prior to the discipline.

My take on it,
King Sam

[nagerous]

No need to post it twice king sam, maybe you can make your own thread somewhere about it.


I'm confused though, if someone picks up a 24 hour forum ban do they lose all their games too??

[Minister Masket]

This development is indeed a double-edged sword.
I would not think a temporary forum ban should lead to dropped games. The two things are mostly seperate.

[king sam]

No need to post it twice king sam, maybe you can make your own thread somewhere about it.


I'm confused though, if someone picks up a 24 hour forum ban do they lose all their games too??

I posted it in here, and realized it would get the attention I wanted in the other thread so I posted it there as well where it belonged with the header that I was re-posting it.

Glad to see you jump in with a trivial post though.

[nagerous]

No need to post it twice king sam, maybe you can make your own thread somewhere about it.


I'm confused though, if someone picks up a 24 hour forum ban do they lose all their games too??

I posted it in here, and realized it would get the attention I wanted in the other thread so I posted it there as well where it belonged with the header that I was re-posting it.

Glad to see you jump in with a trivial post though.

Actually, I asked a question but just got trolled in response.

[king sam]

Didn't even see your question until just now. Valid question

[AAFitz]

OK, What did he do?? As far as I know there are basically 2 rules: No multi, and no secret diplomacy. Are there now other rules?

There have always been other rules...Those are the two most basic to the game, but there is a long list of other rules...and to sum them up...

Any kind of behavior that is completely destructive to the fun of the game. Warnings are used at first, but after that they move on to the bans dependent upon the behavior itself.

[trinicardinal]

No need to post it twice king sam, maybe you can make your own thread somewhere about it.


I'm confused though, if someone picks up a 24 hour forum ban do they lose all their games too??

I posted it in here, and realized it would get the attention I wanted in the other thread so I posted it there as well where it belonged with the header that I was re-posting it.

Glad to see you jump in with a trivial post though.

Actually, I asked a question but just got trolled in response.

saw the answer in another thread... only whole site bans will get you auto kicked

[MrBenn]

I'm confused though, if someone picks up a 24 hour forum ban do they lose all their games too??

saw the answer in another thread... only whole site bans will get you auto kicked

To clarify, forum bans and chat bans on their own will not see a player kicked out of games - that priviledge is given to multis and people who earn complete website bans.

I do recall him receiving a permanent forum ban back at beginning of March. But not a website ban to my knowledge. And as per the new development it stipulates website ban and not forum, unless they are considered one and the same.

From now on, inactivated multies will be immediately auto-kicked from their games and will also be auto-dropped from any waiting games. Same goes for members who are given website bans for whatever reason and for whatever length of time. Just like when players are auto-kicked for missing too many turns, in these cases teammates will inherit troops and spoils, assassin targets will be reassigned, and the final winner will get the points in terminator games.

xtratabasco has recently earnt a website ban, so he would have been kicked out in any case. By having him kicked out now, instead of in three rounds time, you're in a slightly stronger position than having a static/passive comrade who has been incapacitated.

[PLAYER57832]

A lot of innocent users will be punished and effected in their games by the actions taken by users that are beyond their control, and most of the time this will all happen unknowingly to them.
To add to it, if the owner who has done the abuse is accused, and found guilty via an E-Ticket it will be unknown to all prior to the discipline.

My take on it,
King Sam

I know this is a problem .. its no different than someone joining and then deadbeating, only quicker. But, this way it only affects those playing teams. Before, EVERYONE was affected.

I have thought in before that deadbeats in team games should go to tammates, not nuetral. However, I don't play teams anyway because I don't like starting an open game only to find myself facing a practiced team of majors as my opponent. I mean, I don't mind losing, but set-ups are something else.

[nagerous]

thanks for responding trin and MrBenn

[YoursFalsey]

I know this is slightly off-topic, but is there anywhere one can go to find out the story behind disipline actions?

I played many games against xtratabasco (I once claimed that I had lost enough points to him that he owed at least one grade of rank to me) and never saw anything but a good opponent. I was in a game with him when he announced he would be gone soon, but never learned what he had supposedly done.

[Dancing Mustard]

xtratabasco has recently earnt a website ban

I'm only surprised that it took this long really.

Is there any chance that somebody (official or non-official) could point me in the direction of Xtratabasco's last hurrah? I would like to go and pay my respects at the site of his final battle/resting-place.

Many thanks in advance.

[jiminski]

xtratabasco has recently earnt a website ban

I'm only surprised that it took this long really.

Is there any chance that somebody (official or non-official) could point me in the direction of Xtratabasco's last hurrah? I would like to go and pay my respects at the site of his final battle/resting-place.

Many thanks in advance.

viewtopic.php?f=57&t=89468&hilit=xtra%2A

try that mustard, Fitz posted the gamechat