Logic dictates that there is a God!

by **notyou2** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:07 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Is there a higher power (being(s) more developed than us in our universe or multiverse????....the answer has to be a resounding YES.

Is there a God???....only the one we (humans) have created....so....... NO.

However, since we have created a God, does he exist....YES.......much like Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

Fine. Prove it.

If you read what I am saying, I am saying I don't believe in God

by **notyou2** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:08 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:Oh f*ck... which retard dug this festering pile of spam back up again?

Nothing going on here mustard, go back to pushing buttons

by **Dancing Mustard** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:29 pm

notyou2 wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Is there a higher power (being(s) more developed than us in our universe or multiverse????....the answer has to be a resounding YES.

Is there a God???....only the one we (humans) have created....so....... NO.

However, since we have created a God, does he exist....YES.......much like Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

Fine. Prove it.

If you read what I am saying, I am saying I don't believe in God

No, you're clearly saying that:

(1) This universe contains a higher power than human-kind.
(2) The only God that exists is one that we have created.
(3) That a God we personally create can logically (and must logically) exist.

All three of those are statements which, until you prove them, are just your own personal (irrelevant) opinions. Player has asked you to substantiate one/all of them.

Can you do it, or do you intend to obfuscate and walk away?

by **notyou2** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:43 pm

No one can prove or disprove God exists.

Prove you exist...and I want to see Irrefutable proof.

I guess I am just going to pontificate like the 300+ pages of other posts.

I was simply stating my belief, no more, no less.....now turn into a mustard cloud and poison someone else.

by **Dancing Mustard** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:48 pm

notyou2 wrote:No one can prove or disprove God exists.

Ok...

But that's not relevant to the three clearly stated claims that you made in your original post, is it?

notyou2 wrote:Prove you exist...and I want to see Irrefutable proof.

Hurrah. Irrelevance.

I guess I am just going to pontificate like the 300+ pages of other posts.

notyou2 wrote:I was simply stating my belief, no more, no less

If that's the case, why didn't you say that? Why did you make three concrete claims?

Sounds to me like you've just lost your nerve when challenged to substantiate your views...

by **notyou2** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:49 pm

Oh, and please stop twisting my words, I never said "God must logically and can logically exist".
I said humankind has created a God (many Gods actually). Do they exist? I believe they do for some people but not for all.

by **notyou2** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:50 pm

To put it bluntly, I dont believe in God. But, I believe many people do believe in God, therefore he exists for them but not for me.
Is that what you want to hear?

by **Dancing Mustard** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:52 pm

notyou2 wrote:Oh, and please stop twisting my words, I never said "God must logically and can logically exist".

I never said you did... I just pointed out that you said that:

Dancing Mustard wrote:(1) This universe contains a higher power than human-kind.
(2) The only God that exists is one that we have created.
(3) That a God we personally create can logically (and must logically) exist.

Don't believe me? Go back and re-read your original post... it's all there in black and white.

I fucking winz0r. QED.

by **notyou2** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:00 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Oh, and please stop twisting my words, I never said "God must logically and can logically exist".

I never said you did... I just pointed out that you said that:

Dancing Mustard wrote:(1) This universe contains a higher power than human-kind.
(2) The only God that exists is one that we have created.
(3) That a God we personally create can logically (and must logically) exist.

Don't believe me? Go back and re-read your original post... it's all there in black and white.

I fucking winz0r. QED.

It appears to be grey on my screen.........

by **notyou2** on Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:01 pm

You must have been a badger in your previous existence.......... 8-[

by **john9blue** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:45 pm

I don't take kindly to threads like this 'round here. :evil:

by **MeDeFe** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:07 pm

notyou2 wrote:Is there a higher power (being(s) more developed than us in our universe or multiverse????....the answer has to be a resounding YES.

Is there a God???....only the one we (humans) have created....so....... NO.

However, since we have created a God, does he exist....YES.......much like Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

I'm not sure "create" is the right term, "conceive of" is probably closer to what I think you are trying to say. So: "However, since we have conceived of a God, does he exist [as an idea]....YES.......much like Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus."

However, you still use too many question marks and periods.

by **notyou2** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:21 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Is there a higher power (being(s) more developed than us in our universe or multiverse????....the answer has to be a resounding YES.

Is there a God???....only the one we (humans) have created....so....... NO.

However, since we have created a God, does he exist....YES.......much like Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

I'm not sure "create" is the right term, "conceive of" is probably closer to what I think you are trying to say. So: "However, since we have conceived of a God, does he exist [as an idea]....YES.......much like Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus."

However, you still use too many question marks and periods.

Yes, but isn't that what life is all about? Question marks and periods, it's symbolic metaphorism.

by **MeDeFe** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:57 pm

notyou2 wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
notyou2 wrote:Is there a higher power (being(s) more developed than us in our universe or multiverse????....the answer has to be a resounding YES.

Is there a God???....only the one we (humans) have created....so....... NO.

However, since we have created a God, does he exist....YES.......much like Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

I'm not sure "create" is the right term, "conceive of" is probably closer to what I think you are trying to say. So: "However, since we have conceived of a God, does he exist [as an idea]....YES.......much like Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus."

However, you still use too many question marks and periods.

Yes, but isn't that what life is all about? Question marks and periods, it's symbolic metaphorism.

Are you saying god's a woman?

by **Neoteny** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:04 pm

snicker snicker

by **captain.crazy** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:19 pm

God completely exists. Vastly, the people of his creation have been fluorinated and fooled into believing that He does not... and even as His prophesey in the book of Revelations is coming true before your very eyes, you fail to see it. Wake up and Join the army of God to fight evil.

by **Woodruff** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:57 pm

captain.crazy wrote:God completely exists. Vastly, the people of his creation have been fluorinated and fooled into believing that He does not... and even as His prophesey in the book of Revelations is coming true before your very eyes, you fail to see it. Wake up and Join the army of God to fight evil.

Flouride is the cause of people not believing in God?

(And it's flouridated.)

by **john9blue** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:18 pm

MeDeFe wrote:Are you saying god's a woman?

bahahaha

by **Snorri1234** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:14 pm

Woodruff wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:God completely exists. Vastly, the people of his creation have been fluorinated and fooled into believing that He does not... and even as His prophesey in the book of Revelations is coming true before your very eyes, you fail to see it. Wake up and Join the army of God to fight evil.

Flouride is the cause of people not believing in God?

Yes.

Also, YOU'RE ALL SHEEPLE!

by **joecoolfrog** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:30 pm

God created Trolls :lol:

by **Dancing Mustard** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:34 pm

joecoolfrog wrote:God created Trolls

... in his image, no less.

Thus, God is a troll.

by **Strife** on Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:37 pm

The only obvious question here is: Can you define "God"?
What is "God" to be exact, people claim it to be a he or she, but can they really know. Has "God" every really done anything for you? Has he paid off your debts magically or allowed your cancerous grandmother life through sickness? The only way "God" exists is through belief and hope. Honestly, I don't give a rats ass if there is or isn't a "God" or even several. It all comes down to who you are, and not what "God" has made you. There is no fate but what you make for yourself, you choose your destiny and no one else. According to the many religions "God" is seen as very vengeful, hell if you sin, so if "God" really cared would he not descend from the Heavens and show proof of his existence(I know I'm gonna get something like, "oh no!!1 it's because teh humanz cant handle himz") so everyone would believe(I know free will, bullshit). If he/she/them/it really wanted free will then there would be no eternal damnation for not believing. There is no point in arguing either side, there will always be believers and always be non-believers, it's how the world works. Someone out there has an opinion and someone has a different one, until "God's" existence can be proven beyond reasonable doubt, it cannot be considered real(In my opinion). Some, may be an understatement, people won't believe because they need to see it, it needs to be tangible for them to believe, it's just how Humans are. There will almost certainly never be an end to the argument of "God's" existence. You can't prove it exists, you can't prove it doesn't.