New World Order - Love's Got The World In Motion

[MeDeFe]

A world conspiracy is not necessary for a few to retain control over the general development of the world, the political and social systems are fucked up enough as it is.

by the same token, it should be noted that a world conspiracy can (is) in existance for retaining control over the development of the world. Just because it is not necessary, does not mean that it does not exist.

Indeed, but why introduce unnecessary premises with no backing?

Too much evidence exitst to suggest that there is not a conspiracy.

[captain.crazy]

A world conspiracy is not necessary for a few to retain control over the general development of the world, the political and social systems are fucked up enough as it is.

by the same token, it should be noted that a world conspiracy can (is) in existance for retaining control over the development of the world. Just because it is not necessary, does not mean that it does not exist.

Indeed, but why introduce unnecessary premises with no backing?

Too much evidence exitst to suggest that there is not a conspiracy.

There is plenty of evidence... You just refuse to see it. You are conditioned to be blinded to it.

[InkL0sed]

We're playing for England
We're playing this song...

[luns101]

If anyone out there is part of the NWO could you enlighten me as to what it is you're after?

The elimination of The Back Street Boys...all of them!

[Woodruff]

here in America, we have the voice to disscent, and the guns to defend ourselves. those things are an obstical to the elite... keeping them from exercising total power.

They have total control over who is going to be our President but they don't have total power? Hmm...that doesn't seem to pass the logic test.

[joecoolfrog]

There will most certainly be a plague of frogs......

[jay_a2j]

here in America, we have the voice to disscent, and the guns to defend ourselves. those things are an obstical to the elite... keeping them from exercising total power.

They have total control over who is going to be our President but they don't have total power? Hmm...that doesn't seem to pass the logic test.

Control over every single human being on Earth. A world full of mindless slaves if you will.

[AAFitz]

here in America, we have the voice to disscent, and the guns to defend ourselves. those things are an obstical to the elite... keeping them from exercising total power.

They have total control over who is going to be our President but they don't have total power? Hmm...that doesn't seem to pass the logic test.

Control over every single human being on Earth. A world full of mindless slaves if you will.

Are you talking about what God wants again?

[Gregrios]

here in America, we have the voice to disscent, and the guns to defend ourselves. those things are an obstical to the elite... keeping them from exercising total power.

They have total control over who is going to be our President but they don't have total power? Hmm...that doesn't seem to pass the logic test.

Control over every single human being on Earth. A world full of mindless slaves if you will.

Now that I think about it, it's actually pretty pathetic. The fact that inorder for these "elete" to come out of the woodwork and begin to flex their muscle they NEED to have complete control. That shows a real lack of confidence and self-esteem. Poor pathetic souls.

[xelabale]

I don't buy your theory. Sorry, don't shout about how I'm blind to the truth, I've thought about it and examined what you've written and it doesn't work:

• Greek is right - they control who is leader, ergo they are the leader. What more power do they need?
• You say they need to disarm the people. Why? No offence but a couple of thousand loons with shotguns aren't going to stop the US army now, are they? Think the population was unarmed in Honduras? Didn't stop that coup, why would it stop this one?
• You say they only have control through money and that's not enough. Bull, money IS power. There is nothing else, control the money you control the world.
• You say a catastrophe is coming that will change the world - what do you base that on? Evidence please - I will read it. Show me why you think there will be a world-changing catastrophe where control of money is no longer enough to control the world. Don't tell me I'm conditioned not to see it because that is not a discussion, that is manure without substance.
• My biggest problem with your ideas - why is it all centred on the US? This is a global elite ffs, why bother disarming you when they could control an entire army in North Korea? What makes you think you are that important for world domination, when you are outnumbered 3:1 in population by the chinese, who are used to being controlled? If I were this global elite I'd just send a few missiles your way and be done with it - they certainly don't need Americans in their 500,000,000.

This is what I see:
You need to see some meaning in the world for yourselves, and this puts you right in the middle. The messiah is coming, the NWO is taking over, listen to ME. I can't prove it but LISTEN TO ME. Despite the fact that 6 billion people lived out their daily dramas another day without me and my predictions, don't worry, it's coming soon. LISTEN TO ME.

And if we do listen to you, then what? What will that achieve? Are we going to rise up, overthrow the shadowy Big Brother before it's too late? I see a lot of internet fearmongering but no action. A population living in fear, is that what you're trying to achieve?

Captain, you are the loudest proponent of this theory yet when I asked you what action you were going to take you didn't answer, just threw out another conspiracy. Well, I don't believe you. I believe you are trolling and nothing else. Show me some action, show me what I can do to change this, show me how to counter this dire threat - or shut the hell up already.

[TheProwler]

If one or many natural disasters severely damage the world's infrastructure, we could slip into a bit of anarchy. Think Mad Max. Do you think nukes will play a role when the world can't communicate effectively outside of shouting distance? The people in power will be the people with the small arms.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009 ... iction.htm

Google 2012

Google Polar Shift

And it might not be natural disasters. Google EMP Weaponry.

Who knows what will happen for sure? Nobody. Everything is really theory. When Planet X gets close enough, we might be visited and terminated.

xelabale, you got your answers. You don't agree with them. Fine. Now why don't you shut the f*ck up? Do you think everyone needs to agree with you? You act like a little spoiled baby.

[Snorri1234]

Control of the population. Their ideal world population is no more than 500,000,000 people.

So why not nuke the US and other countries till there are 500,000,000 people left?

[jay_a2j]

Control of the population. Their ideal world population is no more than 500,000,000 people.

So why not nuke the US and other countries till there are 500,000,000 people left?

Do you really need me to answer this?


But nukes will be used...you can count on it. Not so much for population control but when the world is in chaos, people are going to do stupid things.

I don't know how far this NWO is going to go, but I do know it's going to be bad, really bad. Like no other time in the history of the world.

[InkL0sed]

And I know you're wrong.

[jay_a2j]

And I know you're wrong.

Not me, I could not know these things for I am just a man. We have been told. Now if you want to state that God's Word is wrong, have at it just don't stand to close to me.



This is it folks! Very little sand in the hourglass now!

[captain.crazy]

Control of the population. Their ideal world population is no more than 500,000,000 people.

So why not nuke the US and other countries till there are 500,000,000 people left?

Anyone that reasd sun tzu would know that you don't destroy the infrastructure...

Also, people would go ape shit.

[xelabale]

If one or many natural disasters severely damage the world's infrastructure, we could slip into a bit of anarchy. Think Mad Max. Do you think nukes will play a role when the world can't communicate effectively outside of shouting distance? The people in power will be the people with the small arms.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009 ... iction.htm

Google 2012

Google Polar Shift

And it might not be natural disasters. Google EMP Weaponry.

Who knows what will happen for sure? Nobody. Everything is really theory. When Planet X gets close enough, we might be visited and terminated.

xelabale, you got your answers. You don't agree with them. Fine. Now why don't you shut the f*ck up? Do you think everyone needs to agree with you? You act like a little spoiled baby.

This is not proof, this is wild speculation. "If blah blah, we could blah blah." Nice conditionals in your proof there. And from that you leap to: The power will be with the people with the small arms. This is totally counter to the whole NWO hypothesis - why would the people currently controlling the world want to put the power into other people's hands? Barking mad. These are not answers, they are more wild speculation and powder puff.

The reason I bring it up is that for a month we have had thread after thread of spam - vapour trails, mercury, fluoride. Fine, discuss your theories in a thread, but not 10, it's bullshit. I'm fine with you disagreeing with me, just stop ramming it down everyone's throats.

[thegreekdog]

I have a pretty relevant question - how do small arms do, generally speaking, against nuclear weapons? Because, frankly, if the NWO uses nuclear weapons, I'm not quite sure how my hypothetical handgun is going to counter said nuclear weapons. Further, if the NWO uses some sort of biological threat and holes up in some underground bunker, will it matter if we all had firearms?

I guess my point is, your insistence that we be well-armed may have good intentions, but will it truly be effective?

[Snorri1234]

Control of the population. Their ideal world population is no more than 500,000,000 people.

So why not nuke the US and other countries till there are 500,000,000 people left?

Anyone that reasd sun tzu would know that you don't destroy the infrastructure...

Also, people would go ape shit.

Except that they wouldn't need the infrastructure they destroy.

Surely you're not suggesting that after having taken the population down to 500 million they intend to spread around the entire world?

[TheProwler]

Who knows what will happen for sure? Nobody. Everything is really theory.

This is not proof, this is wild speculation. "If blah blah, we could blah blah." Nice conditionals in your proof there.

Like talking to a brick wall.

[Woodruff]

here in America, we have the voice to disscent, and the guns to defend ourselves. those things are an obstical to the elite... keeping them from exercising total power.

They have total control over who is going to be our President but they don't have total power? Hmm...that doesn't seem to pass the logic test.

Control over every single human being on Earth. A world full of mindless slaves if you will.

According to captain.crazy, they already have control over America, the country which has the voice of dissent and the guns to defend ourselves (the only obstacles to the elite!). So if they already have total control in America (since they clearly can just name the President), then they already have control over every single human being on Earth, because America IS the nation best-prepared to fight against such control.

(Actually, I would argue that Germany is, but that's for another discussion...)

[TheProwler]

I have a pretty relevant question - how do small arms do, generally speaking, against nuclear weapons? Because, frankly, if the NWO uses nuclear weapons, I'm not quite sure how my hypothetical handgun is going to counter said nuclear weapons. Further, if the NWO uses some sort of biological threat and holes up in some underground bunker, will it matter if we all had firearms?

I guess my point is, your insistence that we be well-armed may have good intentions, but will it truly be effective?

Holy shit man, use your fuckin' head.

After immense global destruction, nuclear weapons will not function. Do you think you can launch a missile without electricity?

When your enemies (the people you want to control) are living 1 mile away from you, do you think nuking them is a good idea?

I am talking about post-catastrophe. This is all a setup for that. With no catastrophe, the powers that be would be happy with the status quo. They are planning for the future.

They don't want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and work for themselves. They want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and rule the fuckin' world. What fuckin' words don't you understand?

Honestly, the stupidity of people on this site is frustrating.

[Woodruff]

• You say they need to disarm the people. Why? No offence but a couple of thousand loons with shotguns aren't going to stop the US army now, are they? Think the population was unarmed in Honduras? Didn't stop that coup, why would it stop this one?

I agree with most of your points, but you used poor logic on this one...certainly, large numbers of the military would be involved in the coup if it were actually necessary...the Army DOESN'T just blindly follow whatever orders there are, despite what seems to be widespread belief in that. Those military members certainly do have or can quickly get access to better weapons that simple shotguns. <smile>

• My biggest problem with your ideas - why is it all centred on the US? This is a global elite ffs, why bother disarming you when they could control an entire army in North Korea? What makes you think you are that important for world domination, when you are outnumbered 3:1 in population by the chinese, who are used to being controlled? If I were this global elite I'd just send a few missiles your way and be done with it - they certainly don't need Americans in their 500,000,000.

True...sort of. The technology edge, particularly given military weaponry, in the United States does give a tremendous advantage.

[Woodruff]

Control of the population. Their ideal world population is no more than 500,000,000 people.

So why not nuke the US and other countries till there are 500,000,000 people left?

Do you really need me to answer this?

Don't have an answer, eh?

[TheProwler]

True...sort of. The technology edge, particularly given military weaponry, in the United States does give a tremendous advantage.

No fuel. No electricity. No functional circuit boards.

Think about it.