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WASHINGTON – American radio talk-show host Michael Savage is apparently still being banned from entering the United Kingdom, despite a report from a British newspaper over the weekend suggesting he had been cleared for entry.

"It ain't over till it's over," Savage said on his broadcast tonight, after being informed his name is still blacklisted.

"I was very excited about this report from England when my friend [WND Editor] Joseph Farah called me Saturday night to tell me about it. But only this morning, my attorney told me this announcement does not mean my name has been removed from this list. The statement says the list will no longer be published."
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104600

So the UK is now going to have a secret 'enemies' black list? :?

How long till I'm on it? :shock: :lol:

It's like some bastardized politically correct Russia over there it seems. Fascist
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How do you know you aren't already on it?
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GabonX wrote:So the UK is now going to have a secret 'enemies' black list? :?
No, it's the same lost as before, with 101 names on it of which 16 - including Savage - were published. Since he got pissed about that, it's not being published.
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Well I was there in January so I would have had to have been put on it between then and now...
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GabonX wrote:
WASHINGTON – American radio talk-show host Michael Savage is apparently still being banned from entering the United Kingdom, despite a report from a British newspaper over the weekend suggesting he had been cleared for entry.

"It ain't over till it's over," Savage said on his broadcast tonight, after being informed his name is still blacklisted.

"I was very excited about this report from England when my friend [WND Editor] Joseph Farah called me Saturday night to tell me about it. But only this morning, my attorney told me this announcement does not mean my name has been removed from this list. The statement says the list will no longer be published."
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104600

So the UK is now going to have a secret 'enemies' black list? :?

How long till I'm on it? :shock: :lol:

It's like some bastardized politically correct Russia over there it seems. Fascist
The UK have no right to keep whoever they want out of their country! Oh wait... they do.
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F1fth wrote:
GabonX wrote:
WASHINGTON – American radio talk-show host Michael Savage is apparently still being banned from entering the United Kingdom, despite a report from a British newspaper over the weekend suggesting he had been cleared for entry.

"It ain't over till it's over," Savage said on his broadcast tonight, after being informed his name is still blacklisted.

"I was very excited about this report from England when my friend [WND Editor] Joseph Farah called me Saturday night to tell me about it. But only this morning, my attorney told me this announcement does not mean my name has been removed from this list. The statement says the list will no longer be published."
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104600

So the UK is now going to have a secret 'enemies' black list? :?

How long till I'm on it? :shock: :lol:

It's like some bastardized politically correct Russia over there it seems. Fascist
The UK have no right to keep whoever they want out of their country! Oh wait... they do.
Just like the States, I believe.
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Gypsys Kiss wrote:
F1fth wrote:
GabonX wrote:
WASHINGTON – American radio talk-show host Michael Savage is apparently still being banned from entering the United Kingdom, despite a report from a British newspaper over the weekend suggesting he had been cleared for entry.

"It ain't over till it's over," Savage said on his broadcast tonight, after being informed his name is still blacklisted.

"I was very excited about this report from England when my friend [WND Editor] Joseph Farah called me Saturday night to tell me about it. But only this morning, my attorney told me this announcement does not mean my name has been removed from this list. The statement says the list will no longer be published."
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104600

So the UK is now going to have a secret 'enemies' black list? :?

How long till I'm on it? :shock: :lol:

It's like some bastardized politically correct Russia over there it seems. Fascist
The UK have no right to keep whoever they want out of their country! Oh wait... they do.
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F1fth wrote: The UK have no right to keep whoever they want out of their country! Oh wait... they do.
This isn't the whole of the country that makes decisions like this. It's the political elite, and they try just as hard to criminalize free speech for their own citizens as well.

Yeah, they can do it, but it's wrong. Not only that, but it causes the international community to view them unfavorably.
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F1fth wrote: The UK have no right to keep whoever they want out of their country! Oh wait... they do.
This isn't the whole of the country that makes decisions like this. It's the political elite, and they try just as hard to criminalize free speech for their own citizens as well.

Yeah, they can do it, but it's wrong. Not only that, but it causes the international community to view them unfavorably.
Actually its the very opposite, the International community has been critical in the past of Britain
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GabonX wrote:
F1fth wrote: The UK have no right to keep whoever they want out of their country! Oh wait... they do.
This isn't the whole of the country that makes decisions like this. It's the political elite, and they try just as hard to criminalize free speech for their own citizens as well.

Yeah, they can do it, but it's wrong. Not only that, but it causes the international community to view them unfavorably.
Until your own country gets its house in order, what right do you have to criticize anyone elses
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Gypsys Kiss wrote: Until your own country gets its house in order, what right do you have to criticize anyone elses
Spoken like a true liberal...
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Gypsys Kiss wrote:
GabonX wrote:
F1fth wrote: The UK have no right to keep whoever they want out of their country! Oh wait... they do.
This isn't the whole of the country that makes decisions like this. It's the political elite, and they try just as hard to criminalize free speech for their own citizens as well.

Yeah, they can do it, but it's wrong. Not only that, but it causes the international community to view them unfavorably.
Until your own country gets its house in order, what right do you have to criticize anyone elses
We still have the greatest country on Earth ;)
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danfrank wrote:
Gypsys Kiss wrote: Until your own country gets its house in order, what right do you have to criticize anyone elses
Spoken like a true liberal...
No, its like a paedophile telling you how to run child care classes.

Anyway, its more a case of 'practice what you preach'. I dont give two shits whether Savage comes to this country or not and as far as I am aware he had no intentions of coming. But I am sick and tired of 'holier than thou' Americans telling other countries what they should and should not be doing. When the USA is whiter than white, then they can try and dictate to the rest of the world.
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Gypsys Kiss wrote:
danfrank wrote:
Gypsys Kiss wrote: Until your own country gets its house in order, what right do you have to criticize anyone elses
Spoken like a true liberal...
No, its like a paedophile telling you how to run child care classes.

Anyway, its more a case of 'practice what you preach'. I dont give two shits whether Savage comes to this country or not and as far as I am aware he had no intentions of coming. But I am sick and tired of 'holier than thou' Americans telling other countries what they should and should not be doing. When the USA is whiter than white, then they can try and dictate to the rest of the world.
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I know other people like their countries too. I've been around the world and back and I'm convinced that mine is the best ;)
Russia and China are scary up and comers :shock:
(Haven't been to either of them)

Until relatively recently, I had a lot of respect for the UK. The defiant country of Churchill which almost single handedly resisted Nazi occupation. My grandfather, who was something of a man without a nation during WW2, actually fought for the British army against the Germans.
Now it looks as though the UK is adopting some of the fascist policies which my grandfather fought to end in Germany.
This goes beyond the issue with Savage or Wilders or any one man. Nothing less than free speech is what is at stake here.

This whole situation is deeply troubling to me. The man was banned from entering the country for (supposedly) inciting violence and fomenting hatred. He was not banned by a comity but rather by one woman who was in a position of authority who didn't like him.

The man was banned from entering the UK for using his right to free speech in the United States. He hasn't broken laws from either country, AND free speech is part of the English Bill of Rights as well as that of the United States.

Basically this amounts to people with an ideology of extreme political correctness trying to silence people who disagree with them both inside and outside of their country. They are not only trying to kill free speech but free thought. The problem is much bigger than any one isolated incident.

What they are doing, banning someone for using what should be their protected right to free speech, is on the same level as banning someone based on their faith or race. This is on the same page as banning someone because they are Jewish and the idea that this could happen in the UK is deeply troubling to me.

It's a clear cut violation of basic human rights.
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The1exile wrote:No, it's the same lost as before, with 101 names on it of which 16 - including Savage - were published. Since he got pissed about that, it's not being published.
You should be pissed about that.
GabonX wrote:My grandfather, who was something of a man without a nation during WW2, actually fought for the British army against the Germans.
Sweet! My granfather(who had a country), was forced to ally with the germans when the "allies" attacked his peaceful, democratic(not that this is the ideal) country. He killed commies by the dozen(literally), by the way :D
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My grandfather was sent to a workers camp to die by the commies. He escaped with 4 other people and a couple of dogs which they wound up eating on the trip through Siberia to China.

I'd like to think that he didn't eat any of his companions, but I do know that not all of them made it and they did eat the dogs..

What country was your grandfather fighting in that he had to ally with the Germans?
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I don't think it does the UK, or whomever it is in the UK that has a dislike of Michael Savage, any good to ban someone from entry simply because they disagree with his views. If he has threatened to take physical action or stir up people into rebellion I could see their point of view and banning is appropriate action. But when you ban someone from entering your country simply because of an ideological disagreement, then you're actually admitting the weakness of your own views because you can't stand up to defending what you believe in.

I'm not really familiar with why he was banned in the first place, but if he's a political wacko then why wouldn't you want him to get entry and for people to get a first hand look at how crazy he really is? He would be the best case of why his views are wrong.
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zebraman wrote:I don't think it does the UK, or whomever it is in the UK that has a dislike of Michael Savage, any good to ban someone from entry simply because they disagree with his views. If he has threatened to take physical action or stir up people into rebellion I could see their point of view and banning is appropriate action. But when you ban someone from entering your country simply because of an ideological disagreement, then you're actually admitting the weakness of your own views because you can't stand up to defending what you believe in.

I'm not really familiar with why he was banned in the first place, but if he's a political wacko then why wouldn't you want him to get entry and for people to get a first hand look at how crazy he really is? He would be the best case of why his views are wrong.
Thats absolutely right, the guy is simply a shock jock and best ignored, publishing any sort of list is plain stupid as it just gives wanabees the attention they crave. Good luck to him on his legal action, somebody should tell him that he has no rights whatsoever to gain entrance to Britain and no excuses need be given for refusing him a Visa, would the USA bother to give me a reason for refusing entry, I hardly think so.
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GabonX wrote:So the UK is now going to have a secret 'enemies' black list? :?

How long till I'm on it? :shock: :lol:
I wouldn't worry if I were you you. They only seem to care about keeping influential, bigoted morons out of their country.
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I'm gonna let you guys in on a little secret...

I am Micheal Savage.
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GabonX wrote:I'm gonna let you guys in on a little secret...

I am Micheal Savage.
I already knew that.

You'd be surprised how little privacy you peons really have.
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GabonX wrote:What country was your grandfather fighting in that he had to ally with the Germans?
Finland.
joecoolfrog wrote:Thats absolutely right, the guy is simply a shock jock and best ignored,...
Funny, that's the same way I feel about you(without the entertainment value).
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