Das Schloß [QUENCHED #2]

[Blitzaholic]

Question:
The old map had a helipad in the village.
It was taken out for this new map.
Does anyone want it back? so that anyone from town can attack the airport and the castle and all three ways.

why did you take it out? or could you explain the pros and cons or having it?

[cairnswk]

Question:
The old map had a helipad in the village.
It was taken out for this new map.
Does anyone want it back? so that anyone from town can attack the airport and the castle and all three ways.

why did you take it out? or could you explain the pros and cons or having it?

Helipads discussion starts here back on page 35.
Blitz...i think you were involved too small extent around this time...
From what i have read and getting my head around the map thread again, it seems the helipad in town was taken out so that more use could be made of the cable cars, plus the inclusion of the new road from town up to the castle.
So i don't know if i have re-opened a can of old worms by asking this question again when it seems it was probably already decided by a lot of input from various people at that time....

I aks the question because:
a. i looked at the Holzschuppen (Wood shed which was in the original story) and wondered if that was redundant and only required as part of the town bonus
b. whether it could be re-instated as another alternative attack route to the castle when players needed it.
c. it seemed appropriate to try to use it to re-open the discussion on this map again whic is now required for re-stamping.

I recall that in the first games lots of fighting was done over this as a tert to stop players moving about more freely.
So could it come in handy again, or would it only lead to a way of cloggin up the game.

The other thing i wanted to pass by everyone was:
The cable cars have been reduced to three attack routes to the castle and then to the airport eachway, with no bonus attached.
If the SchloßStraße (Ss) is also used as a route to castle, should it have a bonus attached to it?
I am kinda thinking no, as this will allow someone to clogg up that route by gaining enough armies to stop another player from accessing the route.

So in this thinking out loud (with myself here ) I am now convinced:
A. that the replacement of the holzschuppen by another Helipad in town should not happen as it will lead to players not battling over access to the castle
B. the bonus for the Schloßstraße should be removed.

Sorry if this is confusing

[yeti_c]

What are we waiting for - I thought this was ready to go as soon as the old games had been finished?!

C.

[Kotaro]

Question:
The old map had a helipad in the village.
It was taken out for this new map.
Does anyone want it back? so that anyone from town can attack the airport and the castle and all three ways.

I don't believe you should bring it back, no.

[cairnswk]

Question:
The old map had a helipad in the village.
It was taken out for this new map.
Does anyone want it back? so that anyone from town can attack the airport and the castle and all three ways.

I don't believe you should bring it back, no.

Thanks Kotaro for the feedback.

What are we waiting for - I thought this was ready to go as soon as the old games had been finished?!
C.

Well, yes and no C.
What i'd like to know is
"do you think the bonus for the Schloßstraße should be removed?"
It is access wasy to the castle and giving it a bonus only allows someone to clogg up that route if they mamnage to gain hold of it. The cable cars don't have a bonus so why should the SchloßStraße have a bonus?

[Echospree]

I think the bonus should be removed. It's really just supposed to be a passageway, not a vital resource you can use to gain more troops.

[cairnswk]

I think the bonus should be removed. It's really just supposed to be a passageway, not a vital resource you can use to gain more troops.

OK, anyone else think bonus for Schloßstraße should be removed?

[cairnswk]

Version 38.

1. SchloßeStraße Bonus removed
2. Bonus legend re-arranged to look tidier, i think it works. the old legend was messy
3. I had adjusted some bonuses and not read the text, os these bonuses are now adjusted back to the almost original amounts
4. lanyards has agreed to re-do the new xml

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[cairnswk]

Version 39.

I've re-read this thread and made the following changes...
1. Helipads are now known as Landplatz A & B
2. the helicopter re-spawns to 60 neutrals (already decided sometime back)
3. Postiions P1-4 are now DD1-4 due to duplication names.

Image with neutral values.

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[pamoa]

still working on this
what a courage
just a linguistic remark
you are using the term private (Pvt.) for simple soldiers
private is a name used only in English speaking armies
in German as in French or Italian for the one I know the term is soldat (Soldaten, pl. in ger.)

[cairnswk]

still working on this
what a courage
just a linguistic remark
you are using the term private (Pvt.) for simple soldiers
private is a name used only in English speaking armies
in German as in French or Italian for the one I know the term is soldat (Soldaten, pl. in ger.)

OK, so your suggestion is to change Pvt. to ?

[pamoa]

Sdt instead of Pvt

[cairnswk]

Sdt instead of Pvt

Done, please F5 to see the changes on the maps above.

[captainwalrus]

I have changed the Kontrol-turm and Parkplatz to 4 neutral each. I think that is fair, and a good compromise between the both of them.

You never changed that, but besides that, things are getting better.
What territories are part of the das dorf bonus?

[Kotaro]

Looking really nice now cairnswk.

[cairnswk]

I have changed the Kontrol-turm and Parkplatz to 4 neutral each. I think that is fair, and a good compromise between the both of them.

You never changed that, but besides that, things are getting better.
What territories are part of the das dorf bonus?

Fixed, please F5 your browser.
"Das Dorf comprises 8 white patterned territories only", but is intermingled with Soldaten and one of the objectives being Kom. Wilhelm.
Das Dorf is surrounded my Dorf Straße (Ds)

Looking really nice now cairnswk.

Danke

[murphy16]

Can't wait for it to come out!

[cairnswk]

Large and small version have been posted for sometime on this, and most of the gameplay has been worked out long ago.
Can this be re-stamped and advanced?...so that xml can be done.

[captainwalrus]

YES YES YES!!!
It deffentntly deserves a new graphics and then gameplay.

[cairnswk]

YES YES YES!!!
It deffentntly deserves a new graphics and then gameplay.

I wonder where they are?

[00iCon]

still working on this
what a courage
just a linguistic remark
you are using the term private (Pvt.) for simple soldiers
private is a name used only in English speaking armies
in German as in French or Italian for the one I know the term is soldat (Soldaten, pl. in ger.)

OK, so your suggestion is to change Pvt. to ?

and this whole time i though is was an english/american assault

Edit: AAAH! Those ones! my bad, that was a good suggestion.

[Iron Maid]

As pamoa also wrote some linguistic remarks I would like to note the following:

Runway = Start- und Landebahn (probably just Landebahn will fit best)

Escape-Flugzeuge = Vorfeld (this is an airport ramp or apron)

Taxiway = Rollbahn

Inn = Kneipe

Quad = Innenplatz (just Platz will do also)

Landplatz, should be Landeplatz

Haupstitz, should be Hauptsitz

Das W.C, I would prefer the word: Klo (short term for Klosett (Water Closet))

Regards,


Iron Maid

And what I also want to say is that you are doing a great job on making all these nice maps.

[cairnswk]

As pamoa also wrote some linguistic remarks I would like to note the following:
Runway = Start- und Landebahn (probably just Landebahn will fit best)

Done

Escape-Flugzeuge = Vorfeld (this is an airport ramp or apron)

Prefer to keep as is.

Taxiway = Rollbahn

Done

Inn = Kneipe

Done

Quad = Innenplatz (just Platz will do also)

Done

Landplatz, should be Landeplatz

Done

Haupstitz, should be Hauptsitz

Done

Das W.C, I would prefer the word: Klo (short term for Klosett (Water Closet))

Prefer to keep Das W.C.

Regards,
Iron Maid
And what I also want to say is that you are doing a great job on making all these nice maps.

Iron Maid, thanks for those suggestions for next version.

[Kotaro]

Nicely done! I don't see what else is needed. It looks great, and I bet it plays great too

[cairnswk]

Version 39. Please refresh f5.
Updated with some new names, replacements of english for german.

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