4th Great Awakening in American History

[Frigidus]

Just finished Common Sense by Glen Beck. A must read for any red blooded American. The first step is to register INDEPENDENT, as both parties are destroying this country. In '08 I stopped voting for "the lesser of two evils" because its STILL evil! I have been a registered Republican my whole adult life, no more. I am changing my party affiliation to Independent. These low life's have to be stopped! By this I mean Democrats and Republicans!



Time to start another one of Glen's books, An Inconvenient Book.

Although I'm interested in reading up on stuff of this nature, Glenn Beck is either insane or an idiot, so I'll pass.

[Titanic]

well that fact that I am who I am is becuase I was born here....is given. I know it;s a gift. the reasons for our downturn you pointed out is one of many, MANY reasons, therefore extremely narrow. I can feel your seathing jealousy in your words. what you refer to as constant whinings, well that may be what you guys do on the other side of the pond. WE use free speech to stop legislation here if we don't like it, and we do stop shit we don't like. jealous again huh? you just dont understand freedom I guess, so we are playing the same game here in different cities. you are so full of hate, but i will take your statements against fat people as a compliement, CUZ HERE WE ARE FREE TO EAT HOWEVER MUCH OF WHATEVER THE f*ck WE WANT! Ta!

Don't understand freedom? Where do you think modern democracy and freedom was invented? In EUROPE! Btw calling you fat is not a compliment, it is an insult against the horrible society that you live in. Btw, you think we're not free to eat as much as we are? We are, but we have a moral conscience and decide to eat a healthy amount instead of becoming obese blobs.

[jay_a2j]

Just finished Common Sense by Glen Beck. A must read for any red blooded American. The first step is to register INDEPENDENT, as both parties are destroying this country. In '08 I stopped voting for "the lesser of two evils" because its STILL evil! I have been a registered Republican my whole adult life, no more. I am changing my party affiliation to Independent. These low life's have to be stopped! By this I mean Democrats and Republicans!



Time to start another one of Glen's books, An Inconvenient Book.

Although I'm interested in reading up on stuff of this nature, Glenn Beck is either insane or an idiot, so I'll pass.

Glen nails it in Common Sense ...... with the exception of page 90. (Those of you who have the book can look at pg. 90 and you'll know what I mean)

They have pitted Americans against each other! Dems vs. Repubs! Rich vs. poor! And as long as they succeed in doing that, which they seem to have no trouble doing, they can continue to re-shape the U S of A! This new shape resembles NOTHING of freedom! Wake up! The founding fathers would be sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo disappointed.

[SultanOfSurreal]

Just finished Common Sense by Glen Beck. A must read for any red blooded American.

lmao

I have a model 60 .357 magnum snubby that I usually carry, but for certain things (traveling out of state, abroad, anywhere where I would have to sneak it around) I would like a smaller gun.

The one I'm getting at is much smaller. Here's a picture (and yes those are regular sized car keys):

hahaha, we all totally believe that you smuggle weapons out of the country, or in fact that you have ever left the country in the first place

you are such a manly man, and clearly not another feckless shut-in masturbating over fancy guns they would never have the balls (or cash) to actually buy

[comic boy]

well that fact that I am who I am is becuase I was born here....is given. I know it;s a gift. the reasons for our downturn you pointed out is one of many, MANY reasons, therefore extremely narrow. I can feel your seathing jealousy in your words. what you refer to as constant whinings, well that may be what you guys do on the other side of the pond. WE use free speech to stop legislation here if we don't like it, and we do stop shit we don't like. jealous again huh? you just dont understand freedom I guess, so we are playing the same game here in different cities. you are so full of hate, but i will take your statements against fat people as a compliement, CUZ HERE WE ARE FREE TO EAT HOWEVER MUCH OF WHATEVER THE f*ck WE WANT! Ta!

Don't understand freedom? Where do you think modern democracy and freedom was invented? In EUROPE! Btw calling you fat is not a compliment, it is an insult against the horrible society that you live in. Btw, you think we're not free to eat as much as we are? We are, but we have a moral conscience and decide to eat a healthy amount instead of becoming obese blobs.

You do have to wonder how truly retarded he is, what language does he speak ? George Washington and the founding fathers were descendents of whom ? Where does he think the American traditions and legal framework originated from ?

[MeDeFe]

well that fact that I am who I am is becuase I was born here....is given. I know it;s a gift. the reasons for our downturn you pointed out is one of many, MANY reasons, therefore extremely narrow. I can feel your seathing jealousy in your words. what you refer to as constant whinings, well that may be what you guys do on the other side of the pond. WE use free speech to stop legislation here if we don't like it, and we do stop shit we don't like. jealous again huh? you just dont understand freedom I guess, so we are playing the same game here in different cities. you are so full of hate, but i will take your statements against fat people as a compliement, CUZ HERE WE ARE FREE TO EAT HOWEVER MUCH OF WHATEVER THE f*ck WE WANT! Ta!

Don't understand freedom? Where do you think modern democracy and freedom was invented? In EUROPE! Btw calling you fat is not a compliment, it is an insult against the horrible society that you live in. Btw, you think we're not free to eat as much as we are? We are, but we have a moral conscience and decide to eat a healthy amount instead of becoming obese blobs.

You do have to wonder how truly retarded he is, what language does he speak ? George Washington and the founding fathers were descendents of whom ? Where does he think the American traditions and legal framework originated from ?

Feudal Japan.

[6.57]

He's from the UK, the new home of liberal fascism, and seems to completely support the trampling of the rights of his own countrymen.

Unfortunately your analysis is actually quite accurate.

Though to be perfectly honest, it is mostly the Londoners who tend to be of the 'liberal-fascism' (as you put it) mindset, and they tend to be more vocal.

For a long time now, the 'London project' has been systematically spreading throughout the capital and beyond it's borders into the home counties, bastardising and corrupting education establishments and creating a whole new politically-motivated syllabus to appeal to the social-engineering, bloated council authorities. It's a place where learning about 'domestic violence', teenage pregnancy' and 'YOOF KULCHAR' has taken precedence over basic numeracy and maths.

The entire city spawns hopeless degenerates.

Don't judge them too harshly - it simply isn't their fault.

[john9blue]

He's from the UK, the new home of liberal fascism, and seems to completely support the trampling of the rights of his own countrymen.

True enough but don't feed the troll please.

[MeDeFe]

He's from the UK, the new home of liberal fascism, and seems to completely support the trampling of the rights of his own countrymen.

True enough but don't feed the troll please.

If we feed it enough it may become fat and round as a barrel, then we could troll-roll people by redirecting them to phatscotty's threads.

[Frigidus]

I swear that sometimes it so hard to separate the trolls and the dumb fucks. I mean, some of the stupid shit PhatScotty says makes me retch. I would immediately discount him as in it for the lulz if I hadn't seen the rock-level intelligence of the Sarah Palin types during the election. I sometimes wonder if those sacks of ignorance actually think at all.

[Titanic]

well that fact that I am who I am is becuase I was born here....is given. I know it;s a gift. the reasons for our downturn you pointed out is one of many, MANY reasons, therefore extremely narrow. I can feel your seathing jealousy in your words. what you refer to as constant whinings, well that may be what you guys do on the other side of the pond. WE use free speech to stop legislation here if we don't like it, and we do stop shit we don't like. jealous again huh? you just dont understand freedom I guess, so we are playing the same game here in different cities. you are so full of hate, but i will take your statements against fat people as a compliement, CUZ HERE WE ARE FREE TO EAT HOWEVER MUCH OF WHATEVER THE f*ck WE WANT! Ta!

Don't understand freedom? Where do you think modern democracy and freedom was invented? In EUROPE! Btw calling you fat is not a compliment, it is an insult against the horrible society that you live in. Btw, you think we're not free to eat as much as we are? We are, but we have a moral conscience and decide to eat a healthy amount instead of becoming obese blobs.

You do have to wonder how truly retarded he is, what language does he speak ? George Washington and the founding fathers were descendents of whom ? Where does he think the American traditions and legal framework originated from ?

Yer, hes either insanely a devils advocate, or just plainly insane. Btw, ironically a lot of the social and moral parts came from the French philosophers of the time with the legal parts coming from England. The French part really riles up the uneducated "patriotic" Americans, especially post-Iraq War.

[daddy1gringo]

***Before you blab on this post, please be familiar with at least 1 of the other great awakenings in our history. If you aren't, you will miss the point completely***

I don't know what you think the great awakenings were, but it's obvious you have no clue. They were movements within the church away from "religion" and cold formalism and toward a personal encounter with the living God, which leads to repentance of sin, love for God and therefore love for others, and a commitment to have your faith have an impact on your life.

Although both great awakenings had profound impact on the way Americans think, which contributed to social and political change (especially the second g.a. in the 1840's which, with its emphasis on righteousness and justice spurred the abolitionist, temperance, and prison reform movements), neither of them had anything to do with anything you have been talking about in this thread.

[comic boy]

***Before you blab on this post, please be familiar with at least 1 of the other great awakenings in our history. If you aren't, you will miss the point completely***

I don't know what you think the great awakenings were, but it's obvious you have no clue. They were movements within the church away from "religion" and cold formalism and toward a personal encounter with the living God, which leads to repentance of sin, love for God and therefore love for others, and a commitment to have your faith have an impact on your life.

Although both great awakenings had profound impact on the way Americans think, which contributed to social and political change (especially the second g.a. in the 1840's which, with its emphasis on righteousness and justice spurred the abolitionist, temperance, and prison reform movements), neither of them had anything to do with anything you have been talking about in this thread.

No doubt abolition, temperance and especially prison reform would be viewed with disgust by Mr Fatty, an afront to his ' Freedom ' you see.

[jay_a2j]

Time to start another one of Glen's books, An Inconvenient Book.

I read them in the opposite order.

Just finished it. EXCELLENT final chapter!

[PLAYER57832]

***Before you blab on this post, please be familiar with at least 1 of the other great awakenings in our history. If you aren't, you will miss the point completely***

I don't know what you think the great awakenings were, but it's obvious you have no clue. They were movements within the church away from "religion" and cold formalism and toward a personal encounter with the living God, which leads to repentance of sin, love for God and therefore love for others, and a commitment to have your faith have an impact on your life.

Although both great awakenings had profound impact on the way Americans think, which contributed to social and political change (especially the second g.a. in the 1840's which, with its emphasis on righteousness and justice spurred the abolitionist, temperance, and prison reform movements), neither of them had anything to do with anything you have been talking about in this thread.

No, but I actually think we ARE in the midst of one or, at least a major paradigm shift.

The current fundamental question is whether healthcare is a basic right, to which everyone needs/should have access, or a priviliage that can rightfully be denied some. Its actually more touchy and far more difficult than either the food or housing issues, becuase for everyone to have healthcare means everyone else will have to pay more, at least temporarily. The debate is over whether the ultimate cost will be greater or if it can be decreased by creating a more even system and over how to accomplish that.

[Phatscotty]

health care 3rd great awakening? Wow

[PLAYER57832]

health care 3rd great awakening? Wow

Clarifying individual rights, versus desires.. yes.

[Frigidus]

health care 3rd great awakening? Wow

Clarifying individual rights, versus desires.. yes.

SOCIALIST! HEAR OUR VOICE, HEAR OUR VOICE!

[PLAYER57832]

health care 3rd great awakening? Wow

Clarifying individual rights, versus desires.. yes.

SOCIALIST! HEAR OUR VOICE, HEAR OUR VOICE!

Clarifying individual rights is socialist? ... interesting position.

[jay_a2j]

health care 3rd great awakening? Wow

Clarifying individual rights, versus desires.. yes.

SOCIALIST! HEAR OUR VOICE, HEAR OUR VOICE!

Clarifying individual rights is socialist? ... interesting position.

Calling it an "individual right" hmmmm ya.

[MrWainthrope]

Not only is socialism every individual's right, it is also the sum total of all individual rights.

To put it another way: Socialism is all about individual rights, to argue against that is futile.

[daddy1gringo]

health care 3rd great awakening? Wow

Clarifying individual rights, versus desires.. yes.

SOCIALIST! HEAR OUR VOICE, HEAR OUR VOICE!

Clarifying individual rights is socialist? ... interesting position.

Calling it an "individual right" hmmmm ya.

To be fair, she wasn't calling it that. She was saying that the issue was clarifying whether or not it is an individual right. I disagree with Players on most political issues, but that was a false accusation.

[jay_a2j]

Clarifying individual rights, versus desires.. yes.

"Clarifying individual rights, versus desires"

Health care isn't a desire, therefore it must be an "individual right". Yeah maybe, if you're a SOCIALIST!

[MrWainthrope]

Health care isn't a desire, therefore it must be an "individual right"

Absolutely.

Nobody but a barbarian or a mediaeval serf would argue that it wasn't a fundamental human right. Are you a serf?

I mean, unless of course you're just a NWO-Puppet who wants to deny the population healthcare in order to render them weak and helpless, making your conquest of them even simpler when the 'time' comes.

[jay_a2j]

Health care isn't a desire, therefore it must be an "individual right"

Absolutely.

Nobody but a barbarian or a mediaeval serf would argue that it wasn't a fundamental human right. Are you a serf?

I mean, unless of course you're just a NWO-Puppet who wants to deny the population healthcare in order to render them weak and helpless, making your conquest of them even simpler when the 'time' comes.

No one is denied healthcare in the US. This is not a "right". I don't remember reading, "Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness AND affordable healthcare"


Generation Y- the entitlement generation.