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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby b.k. barunt on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:07 pm

Please take note of all the spam, thread derailing and flaming in this thread from kotaro. Will she be banned for it? Rhetorical question there. The brown nosers to the mods given preferential treatment? Naaaa.


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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby Kotaro on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:11 pm

Now that's funny. You open the same exact thread, with the same exact opening of "I just got off a 30 day ban and now I'm here to bitch", as well as some BS "I'm here to troll Woodruff because he's a concerned player", and then you accuse me of trolling you.

Truly masterful sir. I couldn't be more sure you were a troll, even If there was a bridge over your head.
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby b.k. barunt on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:27 pm

Desperate times call for desperate measures. "What are we gonna do with this troublemaker?" "Where are all our shills?" "Well kotaru and targetman are willing to go in to spam and bait him - he's a hothead - he'll take the bait and flame one of them".

Sorry girls. I have my standards - you insult me with these two. Where the hell is fitz?


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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby b.k. barunt on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:30 pm

xelabale wrote:Lets get back on topic or this thread will be locked.

I for one hope you don't get perma'd BK - you enliven the forums and ask good questions - I'm not sure what happens now - any offense and you're out? Or does it have to be something big? How does it feel to be on death row?


Enliven the forums? Ask good questions? Whatthefook do you think they ban people around here for? You just hit the top 2 - the only one you left out is . . . oh, i guess you covered it all.
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby neanderpaul14 on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:32 pm

cena-rules wrote:
wow, and how many rocks do you know with a degree?




George W. Bush.....????

Oh wait he'd be a box of rocks.......
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby Kotaro on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:32 pm

/yawn
If you can't stay on topic with your own thread, why are we expected to?
You complain about Andy closing your threads, but you fill them with dirtiest shit you can find - a bit of a failure, eh?

Soon to be Permaban'd is right. Thank Jesus Christ of Nazareth
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby Night Strike on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:38 pm

b.k. barunt wrote:Why do i think this? Because immediately prior to that i pressed andy repeatedly in 2 different threads to answer the embarrassing question "why can cheaters caught with multis buy their way back in and someone banned for 'flaming' cannot?" He of course never answered the question, and when i refused to let it drop i was given a 30 day ban for something that would otherwise have passed unnoticed.


The answer to your question is simple: you don't pay for the forum. Multis are kicked out of their games, so they get 1 chance to buy back in as their punishment. In the forums, there are multiple warnings and small vacations before a large one, and no money is paid to participate on the forums, so there's no reason to be allowed to pay in order to come back. In fact, I would contend that it would increase the number of complaints regarding bans because then the people would complain that the bans are being used to increase revenue (and we all know they would cry out). Really, it's not a hard concept to understand.

As far as you getting permabanned (the correct spelling), I guess you're in luck. Didn't the public convince Andy to drop the maximum discipline length for a minor infraction to 6 months?
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby targetman377 on Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:43 pm

xelabale wrote:
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Kotaro wrote:BK's foe list is a badge of honor. Anyone on it has a brain. Anyone not.. Well, just wave to cena-rules.

It's weird how Flame Wars occupants are one by one getting banned and they have no idea why.




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

i know i mean NO FLAMING is so confusing as a rule right!

So would you say kotaro's post is a flame, because it sure seems like one? Are you saying you want kotaro to be punished? Targetman, why are you out to get kotaro? Did you report his post?



no it is not a flame he is simple saying that bk foe list is a good thing he is not insulting anyone.
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby targetman377 on Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:50 pm

b.k. barunt wrote:Please take note of all the spam, thread derailing and flaming in this thread from kotaro. Will she be banned for it? Rhetorical question there. The brown nosers to the mods given preferential treatment? Naaaa.


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the fact that he has us on ignore and then says we are the ones derailing this thread is laughable. the fact of the matter is this.
A. he thinks he should be able to say anything he wants cause he lives in a world that he can say anything he wants
B. however if you disagree with him he does not want to hear it
C. last and most importantly YOU CAN NOT SAY WHAT EVER YOU WANT


Honibaz is yelling at the mods for a double slandered when he himself has one.
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby targetman377 on Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:51 pm

Kotaro wrote:Now that's funny. You open the same exact thread, with the same exact opening of "I just got off a 30 day ban and now I'm here to bitch", as well as some BS "I'm here to troll Woodruff because he's a concerned player", and then you accuse me of trolling you.

Truly masterful sir. I couldn't be more sure you were a troll, even If there was a bridge over your head.



good one Kotaro =D> =D> =D> =D> :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby targetman377 on Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:56 pm

b.k. barunt wrote:Desperate times call for desperate measures. "What are we gonna do with this troublemaker?" "Where are all our shills?" "Well kotaru and targetman are willing to go in to spam and bait him - he's a hothead - he'll take the bait and flame one of them".

Sorry girls. I have my standards - you insult me with these two. Where the hell is fitz?


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yes look at me i am spamming your thread i have stayed on topic this whole time i have commented to your post. and Honibaz everyone is not out to get you you need to realize this stop being paranoid ok!!
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby xelabale on Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:11 pm

Kotaro wrote:/yawn
If you can't stay on topic with your own thread, why are we expected to?
You complain about Andy closing your threads, but you fill them with dirtiest shit you can find - a bit of a failure, eh?

Soon to be Permaban'd is right. Thank Jesus Christ of Nazareth

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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby stahrgazer on Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:57 pm

b.k. barunt wrote:What's the difference between "panties in a wad" and "knickers in a knot"?


Sexism. Girls wear panties. Bois wear knickers.
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby demonfork on Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:19 pm

Tempers seem to be running a bit high. I think that everyone here could benefit from a nice cold bunch of Thompson seedless grapes.
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby AAFitz on Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:30 pm

Night Strike wrote:
b.k. barunt wrote:Why do i think this? Because immediately prior to that i pressed andy repeatedly in 2 different threads to answer the embarrassing question "why can cheaters caught with multis buy their way back in and someone banned for 'flaming' cannot?" He of course never answered the question, and when i refused to let it drop i was given a 30 day ban for something that would otherwise have passed unnoticed.


The answer to your question is simple: you don't pay for the forum. Multis are kicked out of their games, so they get 1 chance to buy back in as their punishment. In the forums, there are multiple warnings and small vacations before a large one, and no money is paid to participate on the forums, so there's no reason to be allowed to pay in order to come back. In fact, I would contend that it would increase the number of complaints regarding bans because then the people would complain that the bans are being used to increase revenue (and we all know they would cry out). Really, it's not a hard concept to understand.

As far as you getting permabanned (the correct spelling), I guess you're in luck. Didn't the public convince Andy to drop the maximum discipline length for a minor infraction to 6 months?


for minor infractions, yes. The perma ban option is still available for those who simply wont learn, or clearly go well beyond minor infractions.
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby pmchugh on Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:33 pm

targetman377 wrote:
Kotaro wrote:Now that's funny. You open the same exact thread, with the same exact opening of "I just got off a 30 day ban and now I'm here to bitch", as well as some BS "I'm here to troll Woodruff because he's a concerned player", and then you accuse me of trolling you.

Truly masterful sir. I couldn't be more sure you were a troll, even If there was a bridge over your head.



good one Kotaro =D> =D> =D> =D> :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby hecter on Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:35 pm

Targetman and Kotaro have done nothing but spam, bait and flame in this thread. The things that they constantly condemn is just what they're doing. Seeing that NS has posted in this thread, and the fact that it's continued, I must assume that the mods are simply ignoring that issue. Sad, really... Could the favouritism be anymore obvious?
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby Night Strike on Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:51 pm

hecter wrote:Targetman and Kotaro have done nothing but spam, bait and flame in this thread. The things that they constantly condemn is just what they're doing. Seeing that NS has posted in this thread, and the fact that it's continued, I must assume that the mods are simply ignoring that issue. Sad, really... Could the favouritism be anymore obvious?


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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby sinctheassasin on Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:52 pm

AAFitz wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
b.k. barunt wrote:Why do i think this? Because immediately prior to that i pressed andy repeatedly in 2 different threads to answer the embarrassing question "why can cheaters caught with multis buy their way back in and someone banned for 'flaming' cannot?" He of course never answered the question, and when i refused to let it drop i was given a 30 day ban for something that would otherwise have passed unnoticed.


The answer to your question is simple: you don't pay for the forum. Multis are kicked out of their games, so they get 1 chance to buy back in as their punishment. In the forums, there are multiple warnings and small vacations before a large one, and no money is paid to participate on the forums, so there's no reason to be allowed to pay in order to come back. In fact, I would contend that it would increase the number of complaints regarding bans because then the people would complain that the bans are being used to increase revenue (and we all know they would cry out). Really, it's not a hard concept to understand.

As far as you getting permabanned (the correct spelling), I guess you're in luck. Didn't the public convince Andy to drop the maximum discipline length for a minor infraction to 6 months?


for minor infractions, yes. The perma ban option is still available for those who simply wont learn, or clearly go well beyond minor infractions.



Personally, I don't see why bk is acting so innocent and victim-like.
Although his "knotty" comment was not 30 day ban material, from what I have seen, he flames/trolls anybody who disagrees with him. He litters the forum with his bitching, and is keen to derail a topic as soon as he sees an opening where he can flame, troll, or simply be somewhat of a nuiscance...

Even if some of his flames are funny ( which I admit, most are) many are unneccesary, and neither add to the discussion norbenefit anybody but himself.

The smart, mature way to handle it ( although maybe less satisfying to those testosterone pumped "alpha" males) would have been to pm another mod and discuss it, and possibly bring lack and Andy in too, if they had the time.

You also could relieve your trolling desires on many other sites, that have less consequences, and possibly more angering effects, which I presume is your motive (pissing people off while you have a good laugh)

for example, facebook and myspace are great place to flame. Lots of people, nothing they can really take away. There are billions of forums out their for people like you... I bet you could find an entire forum dedicated to flaming, where they might ban you for being nice.

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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby b.k. barunt on Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:16 pm

Fitz! It's about fooking time! I was beginning to think the mods were going to continue insulting me with the B (actually F, but that might be construed as a flame) team. Thanks for saving my self respect. Now you were saying . . .


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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby b.k. barunt on Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:03 am

Night Strike wrote:
b.k. barunt wrote:Why do i think this? Because immediately prior to that i pressed andy repeatedly in 2 different threads to answer the embarrassing question "why can cheaters caught with multis buy their way back in and someone banned for 'flaming' cannot?" He of course never answered the question, and when i refused to let it drop i was given a 30 day ban for something that would otherwise have passed unnoticed.


The answer to your question is simple: you don't pay for the forum. Multis are kicked out of their games, so they get 1 chance to buy back in as their punishment. In the forums, there are multiple warnings and small vacations before a large one, and no money is paid to participate on the forums, so there's no reason to be allowed to pay in order to come back. In fact, I would contend that it would increase the number of complaints regarding bans because then the people would complain that the bans are being used to increase revenue (and we all know they would cry out). Really, it's not a hard concept to understand.

As far as you getting permabanned (the correct spelling), I guess you're in luck. Didn't the public convince Andy to drop the maximum discipline length for a minor infraction to 6 months?


You know it's scary, but in the short lifespan i have left here i might get to actually like you. This is the second time you have stepped in and done the right (and i must say efficient) thing when andy would not. That is a well thought out and i must admit plausible answer - you must share it with andy (yeah i know, he already knew it - i don't believe you and i'm not alone). It's plausible enough that i can accept it. I still think it's wrong for andy to foist cheaters on us to make a few extra bucks, but i can see the logic in your argument insofar as why he doesn't have to do the same for flamers.

As much as i admire your stepping in, i despise andy's lack of respect for the membership here. There were a number of people who asked that question and not just "troublemakers" like me. I consider his lack of response to it to be uncivil and cowardly, and my outspokeness on that is why i made this thread.

I want the membership to see why i was really permabanned when it happens. Fitz talks about all the filthy flames i'm guilty of and i know i've been guilty of such, but since my 1 week banz i don't recall really, i mean really flaming anyone.
Maybe fitz could show me one? He maintains (amazing fitz has to speak for andy) that the banz was justified by "other" posts, i'd like to see one from the time period we're talking about. I know he has the computer skills as he made quite a collage of quotes for me once, which is why he is my favorite of the admin's boys.
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby mibi on Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:12 am

This thread is retarded. There will always be people who push the limits, as long as limits are set. And guess what? Enforcement will be applied 'unjustly' and 'unfairly' in some cases. Such is the human condition. Were you expecting the moderators to be part of a lineage that can be traced to King Arther's round table? They are just average people you occasionally get it right or wrong with slightly better than 50% accuracy.

But what is obviously going on here is just some good ol' fashioned attention seeking by people who likely don't get enough in the non-CC areas of their lives. They just need something to get into, like arts and crafts or something, maybe pottery.
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby Georgerx7di on Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:18 am

jefjef wrote:
b.k. barunt wrote: MOD EDIT


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Aside from one post out of the last dozen, I'd say this topic is sufficiently off topic.


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Lmao, this was funny as hell. I've only got through the first page, and this thread already has me cracking up.


Ok, now let me say something on topic. I'm going to try to be neutral here, which I think is where I am. On the one hand, whenever I've pm'd mods directly I've always gotten a response. The ones I know are usually friendly and seem to be nice people. On the other hand, this banning stuff is starting to bother me. I see threads everyday. 1 day bans, perma bans, and some of them 'appear' based on the little information that I have to be not befitting of the crime. I would like to see admin cut back a little with this, but then again that is not my decision to make, and I don't have all the information that they do.
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Re: Soon To Be Permaband

Postby b.k. barunt on Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:31 am

mibi wrote:This thread is retarded. There will always be people who push the limits, as long as limits are set. And guess what? Enforcement will be applied 'unjustly' and 'unfairly' in some cases. Such is the human condition. Were you expecting the moderators to be part of a lineage that can be traced to King Arther's round table? They are just average people you occasionally get it right or wrong with slightly better than 50% accuracy.

But what is obviously going on here is just some good ol' fashioned attention seeking by people who likely don't get enough in the non-CC areas of their lives. They just need something to get into, like arts and crafts or something, maybe pottery.


And whose attention might you be seeking praytell? (btw, you've got something on your nose)


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