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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:31 am

oVo wrote:Four SEC teams pre-season ranked in the Top 10 with another close at 13 just means that the sports pundits have very high expectations for the conference. I suppose it's based on last year and what key players remain and will take a few weeks to unravel who's recruiting class will have the most impact on this season.


I guess I shouldn't have said as usual but they were ranked very high overall last year too (I think 6 SEC teams started in the top 25, 5 of them in the top 20, 4 of them in the top 15, and 3 in the top 10 [I maybe wrong on that last part I can't remember where LSU was ranked exactly. I want to say they were #7 or #9, it also seems that Auburn was ranked very high until it became obvious that they sucked.] And I believe the SEC was also reasonably high ranked coming into the 2007 season as well. Hoqwever just like it changed last year I don't think it will take very long for a couple of teams to be tested this year and depending how the first two weeks go you could see a lot of the SEC teams both moving down the top 25 rankings as well as up the top 25 rankings. Of course the same theory applies to just about every conference.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:35 am

Also more bad news from Michigan as Rich Rodriguez has allegedly broken practice regulations (I didn't hear the full story but something about 12 hour practice days).

I think this adds fuel to my theory that Rich isn't going to last much longer at Michigan. He lost players left and right to transfers before the season last year. He broke the school's record of most losses in a season last year (I believe their former worst season was 5-7) which made tennessee the only team left in college football to never have an 8 loss season. And now he has these allegations. I think if these allegations prove to be true than Rich will probably be out.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby oVo on Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:45 am

Well South Carolina initiated the SEC season with a sluggish start
holding off the ACC's NC State 7-3.

Boise State humbled Oregon 19-8 and Utah overcame 3 turnovers
to rack up 519 yards of offense and beat Utah State 35-17.

With no first downs until the 3rd quarter and only 151 yards of total
offense, Oregon may be the first team to slip from the rankings.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:57 am

oVo wrote:Well South Carolina initiated the SEC season with a sluggish start
holding off the ACC's NC State 7-3.

Boise State humbled Oregon 19-8 and Utah overcame 3 turnovers
to rack up 519 yards of offense and beat Utah State 35-17.

With no first downs until the 3rd quarter and only 151 yards of total
offense, Oregon may be the first team to slip from the rankings.


No big surprises there. I don't expect SC to do much of anything offensively. At least not until they get more into the groove of the season. Boise and Oregon I expecte to be a tight game and Utah State wow...tough comp.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:24 pm

Well OK State won by a pair of touchdowns. Not the best played game for either team early on but OK State seemed to get it together late in the game.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby luns101 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:42 pm

So far, I've only missed two games on my ESPN group named - Rebuilding Michigan (Yeah Serbia, most of the guys in our group are from MI)

Oklahoma has already scored against BYU. If they win that's 5 more points for me in my pool. :D I'm pretty confident I can close out the remaining 4 games for this week so I'll be #3 by the end of the day.

I didn't read through everything in this thread but I believe every single team in the Big 10 won this week with the exception of Illinois. Anyone else know if this is the case?

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Never mind...it will be the case if Wisconsin defeats N. Illinois. Right now they're up 14-3
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby oVo on Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:01 pm

Yup... Wisconsin is leading Northern Illinois in the 2nd Quarter
and Ohio State, Minnesota and Iowa squeaked by...
So they should be 10-1 for the opening weekend.

Meanwhile the Big 12 is off to a good start as Mizzou stomped Illinois
and Oklahoma State's defense showed up today against Georgia.
Probably 12-0... but it looks like BYU is gonna make OU earn it.

The SEC also looks good as TENNESSEE showcased some talented freshman.
10-2

Meanwhile Florida and Texas are racing to see who can score the most TDs by halftime.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:21 pm

oVo wrote:Yup... Wisconsin is leading Northern Illinois in the 2nd Quarter
and Ohio State, Minnesota and Iowa squeaked by...
So they should be 10-1 for the opening weekend.

Meanwhile the Big 12 is off to a good start as Mizzou stomped Illinois
and Oklahoma State's defense showed up today against Georgia.
Probably 12-0... but it looks like BYU is gonna make OU earn it.

The SEC also looks good as TENNESSEE showcased some talented freshman.
10-2

Meanwhile Florida and Texas are racing to see who can score the most TDs by halftime.


As far as tennessee goes that was umm...who? I haven't changed my position on them and wont until they show they can win against quality opponents.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby Serbia on Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:31 pm

luns101 wrote:So far, I've only missed two games on my ESPN group named - Rebuilding Michigan (Yeah Serbia, most of the guys in our group are from MI)


That's awesome.
Michigan had a very good game vs. Western Michigan today. Which, as a Michigan fan, is a rather embarrassing thing to have to say. I mean, 3 years ago, ANY game against the MAC was a gimmie. Now, it's an encouraging sign to see them man-handle them through the first half, before they kinda took their foot off the gas and treated the rest of the game as a preseason tilt.

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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby king sam on Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:27 pm

what happened to Bradford.. I missed it?

Secretly hoping the worst.. GO HORNS
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby Optimus Prime on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:08 pm

BYU! BYU! BYU! BYU! BYU!
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:22 pm

week 10

Ohio State at Penn State

dont get better than this 8-)
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby Optimus Prime on Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:26 pm

Let's see someone say that the Mountain West can't compete now! Last year Utah beats up on Alabama and this year BYU knocks of Oklahoma. Good things to come I think. :)
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:57 pm

king sam wrote:what happened to Bradford.. I missed it?

Secretly hoping the worst.. GO HORNS


Well Oklahoma lost and Bradford is likely to miss the next two games. They'll also be the first team to drop out of the top 5 as Alabama rallied late to beat VT (a game that was much more of a defensive battle than the score suggests)
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:59 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:week 10

Ohio State at Penn State

dont get better than this 8-)


For a Big 10 fan sure. But for an SEC fan give me Florida-Georgia. And I'm sure all Big 12 fans say Oklahoma-Texas.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby muy_thaiguy on Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:07 am

I just found this article about the Wyoming Texas game on September 12.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2472 ... s-altitude
With the 27-21 win over Weber today, I think the 12th may prove to be intresting this year.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:15 am

Optimus Prime wrote:Let's see someone say that the Mountain West can't compete now! Last year Utah beats up on Alabama and this year BYU knocks of Oklahoma. Good things to come I think. :)


Everything I've seen about the Mountain West points to it being a quality division that simply doesn't get the attention of the BCS divisions.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby king sam on Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:04 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:I just found this article about the Wyoming Texas game on September 12.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2472 ... s-altitude
With the 27-21 win over Weber today, I think the 12th may prove to be intresting this year.


I think Texas knows they cant overlook anybody and will be prepared to beat the Wyoming Cowboys no matter the crowd support and OC there.

And as far as BYU beating Oklahoma.. That game went down to the wire and most likely wouldn't have been close had Bradford not got hurt.. The Sooner Offense was non existent with that Freshman QB. So I wouldn't get too high on BYU or the mountain division just yet.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby oVo on Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:52 am

Yeah, Bradford did a backfield face plant in the first half and that was all she wrote. To BYU's credit Oklahoma couldn't muster a consistent offensive threat without him. The biggest Week 1 stunner by far. BYU, TCU and Utah certainly make the Mountain West competitive against anybody. They aren't underrated, it's mostly a strength of schedule thing... and all three ended last season ranked high. Crimson Tide fans will have Utah nightmares for the rest of their days. The other BCS buster Boise State is also off to a nice start.

Hats off to Oklahoma State, Georgia, Alabama and VA Tech for having the balls to actually schedule a legitimate challenge to open the season... and to Brigham Young for whuppin' the Sooners. I was equally surprised to see a PAC 10 doormat like Washington hang in there against LSU.

Tennessee dominating a Western Kentucky team that only won 2 games last year is no biggie of course, but their freshman players certainly looked good doing it. So even if this young team doesn't get it done this year, the Vols appear to be on the right track.

Navy giving Ohio State a scare in the season opener isn't a shocker either, as the Midshipmen haven't been a pushover for anyone the past two seasons... and I'm hoping this proves to be their best group yet.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:28 pm

king sam wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:I just found this article about the Wyoming Texas game on September 12.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2472 ... s-altitude
With the 27-21 win over Weber today, I think the 12th may prove to be intresting this year.


I think Texas knows they cant overlook anybody and will be prepared to beat the Wyoming Cowboys no matter the crowd support and OC there.

And as far as BYU beating Oklahoma.. That game went down to the wire and most likely wouldn't have been close had Bradford not got hurt.. The Sooner Offense was non existent with that Freshman QB. So I wouldn't get too high on BYU or the mountain division just yet.


Maybe true but I do think its a better division than it tends to get credit for.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:39 pm

oVo wrote:Yeah, Bradford did a backfield face plant in the first half and that was all she wrote. To BYU's credit Oklahoma couldn't muster a consistent offensive threat without him. The biggest Week 1 stunner by far. BYU, TCU and Utah certainly make the Mountain West competitive against anybody. They aren't underrated, it's mostly a strength of schedule thing... and all three ended last season ranked high. Crimson Tide fans will have Utah nightmares for the rest of their days. The other BCS buster Boise State is also off to a nice start.

Hats off to Oklahoma State, Georgia, Alabama and VA Tech for having the balls to actually schedule a legitimate challenge to open the season... and to Brigham Young for whuppin' the Sooners. I was equally surprised to see a PAC 10 doormat like Washington hang in there against LSU.
I watched a little of that LSU game and while I do think LSU is a bit overrated I think they also were kind of looking past Washington thinking it would be an easy win.

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Tennessee dominating a Western Kentucky team that only won 2 games last year is no biggie of course, but their freshman players certainly looked good doing it. So even if this young team doesn't get it done this year, the Vols appear to be on the right track.[/quote] Of course they aren't far off from being a quality team, Tennessee rarely stays in the shadows for long I just don't think they're anywhere close to being ready on offense to contend in the SEC East.. Also look at the stats, sure the QB threw 5 touchdowns but he also threw 2 interceptions, I think that has to be a major concern for him to throw two interceptions in a game that's supposed to be a warm up for the rest of the season.

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Navy giving Ohio State a scare in the season opener isn't a shocker either, as the Midshipmen haven't been a pushover for anyone the past two seasons... and I'm hoping this proves to be their best group yet.

NOt a surprise but even with an Oklahoma loss I wouldn't be surprised to see OSU fall a little in the standings (maybe end up behind OK State)

As for the Alabama-VT game. I was a bit surprised I felt that Alabama would win but I was surprised at what they were able to do against a very talented, albeit as the announcers pointed out, undersized, defense from the Hokies. Really a good defensive showing from both sides of the ball that just didn't get translated as such. I was impressed by both teams and especially impressed with Alabama who I think gave up more special teams yards in the first half than they allowed VT's offense to get all game and most of those yards were from one big kickoff return (this seems to be one of the flaws that Alabama will have to work out). But overall both teams seemed very well coached throughout the game and I believe that probalby 90% of the mistakes they made in this game for both teams should be fixed by week 3. Who knows, the Tide probably feels that they have a reaspn to upset everybody's predictions and become the SEC representatives for the NC after letting it slip away last year.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby oVo on Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:01 pm

I really don't anticipate a change in the Buckeye's ranking, unless it's up one notch after #3 Oklahoma's loss to BYU. With the OSU/USC matchup in Columbus next week there's another shuffle on the horizon coming and Alabama is already ranked higher. OK State won over Georgia, but they were far from dominant and I expect most polls to give the rankings a chance to adjust themselves on the playing field.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby strike wolf on Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:21 pm

oVo wrote:I really don't anticipate a change in the Buckeye's ranking, unless it's up one notch after #3 Oklahoma's loss to BYU. With the OSU/USC matchup in Columbus next week there's another shuffle on the horizon coming and Alabama is already ranked higher. OK State won over Georgia, but they were far from dominant and I expect most polls to give the rankings a chance to adjust themselves on the playing field.


OK State vs. Georgia I really think was a case where both teams had problems and the one with the least ended up winning.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:08 pm

king sam wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:I just found this article about the Wyoming Texas game on September 12.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2472 ... s-altitude
With the 27-21 win over Weber today, I think the 12th may prove to be intresting this year.


I think Texas knows they cant overlook anybody and will be prepared to beat the Wyoming Cowboys no matter the crowd support and OC there.

And as far as BYU beating Oklahoma.. That game went down to the wire and most likely wouldn't have been close had Bradford not got hurt.. The Sooner Offense was non existent with that Freshman QB. So I wouldn't get too high on BYU or the mountain division just yet.

Well, Ole Miss was beaten.
In 2004, the year in which the Cowboys would win the Pioneer Las Vegas Bowl, the Cowboys hosted the Ole Miss Rebels. The Rebels, in their first season without quarterback Eli Manning, would lose a heartbreaker 37-32.
And then look at the Ohio vs Wyoming and vs Ohio State parts. That was only 1 year ago. We may lose, but I don't think Texas will have an easy time about it at all if the Cowboys can fix up a few things that showed against Weber State.
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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Postby king sam on Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:29 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:Well, Ole Miss was beaten.
In 2004, the year in which the Cowboys would win the Pioneer Las Vegas Bowl, the Cowboys hosted the Ole Miss Rebels. The Rebels, in their first season without quarterback Eli Manning, would lose a heartbreaker 37-32.
And then look at the Ohio vs Wyoming and vs Ohio State parts. That was only 1 year ago. We may lose, but I don't think Texas will have an easy time about it at all if the Cowboys can fix up a few things that showed against Weber State.


Isn't Weber State AA ball?
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