Would this be considered farming?

[Timminz]

Game 5656528
Game 5656527

Seems a bit like "specifically targeting" a new recruit.

[owenshooter]

seems a bit shady and someone should look at it, especially if the game fires up... but i doubt it could be considered farming since a mod is on the second team... and we all know mods don't participate in that sort of activity...-0

[the.killing.44]

Check their fs dub games together; you'll find a fair amount are against ?s. I've searched those games and more often than not there is one that looks like this:
Team 1:
? <newb's name>
-empty-
Team 2:
Ω obliterationX
-reserved-

(the omega is colonel hat)

[obliterationX]

See, thing is, I want medals. Not points. I join team games against a variety of ranks, just because two of them happen to be ?s doesn't mean I'm "systematically targeting New Recruits". The rest of the game spots will, most likely, fill up with more experienced players anyway.

Check their fs dub games together; you'll find a fair amount are against ?s. I've searched those games and more often than not there is one that looks like this:
Team 1:
? <newb's name>
-empty-
Team 2:
Ω obliterationX
-reserved-

(the omega is colonel hat)

Ludicrous statement - I searched my doubles freestyle games and only 1 out of 87 games are against New Recruits.

[owenshooter]

If I was after the points and not the medals (farming), I should join Game 5656534, no?

See, thing is, I want medals. Not points.

sooooo, you just admitted that you are farming, wow. however, to you, farming is going after points, not medals. so to yourself, you are not farming... ok, that is an interesting stance... but that is still "systematically targeting New Recruits". and as TheKilling pointed out, you have a slew of games like this. thanks for the response and clarification that you are "systematically targeting New Recruits" for medals not points...-0

p.s.-it has to be ok, a mod is involved...

[obliterationX]

If I was after the points and not the medals (farming), I should join Game 5656534, no?

See, thing is, I want medals. Not points.

sooooo, you just admitted that you are farming, wow. however, to you, farming is going after points, not medals. so to yourself, you are not farming... ok, that is an interesting stance... thanks...-0

p.s.-it has to be ok, a mod is involved...

Took you a while to write that.

Anyway, see above post, and good night!

[the.killing.44]

Ludicrous statement - I searched my doubles freestyle games and only 1 out of 87 games are against New Recruits.

New Recruits NOW. But you have to take into account who were new recruits when they started the games. For instance, I can 100% GUARANTEE the freemie cook in Game 5322719 was a new recruit, because I saw that game waiting for players.

[jpcloet]

seems a bit shady and someone should look at it, especially if the game fires up... but i doubt it could be considered farming since a mod is on the second team... and we all know mods don't participate in that sort of activity...-0

You're so off-base Owen , there are 57 open public triples on Classics. It's really hard to find games these days.

[owenshooter]

seems a bit shady and someone should look at it, especially if the game fires up... but i doubt it could be considered farming since a mod is on the second team... and we all know mods don't participate in that sort of activity...-0

You're so off-base Owen , there are 57 open public triples on Classics. It's really hard to find games these days.

off base? really? he stated he is targeting them for medals and not points, so to him it is not farming. that is a pretty clear statement, i have no idea how i am so off base.-0

[the.killing.44]

seems a bit shady and someone should look at it, especially if the game fires up... but i doubt it could be considered farming since a mod is on the second team... and we all know mods don't participate in that sort of activity...-0

You're so off-base Owen , there are 57 open public triples on Classics. It's really hard to find games these days.

off base? really? he stated he is targeting them for medals and not points, so to him it is not farming. that is a pretty clear statement, i have no idea how i am so off base.-0

You couldn't recognize that sarcasm?

[owenshooter]

seems a bit shady and someone should look at it, especially if the game fires up... but i doubt it could be considered farming since a mod is on the second team... and we all know mods don't participate in that sort of activity...-0

You're so off-base Owen , there are 57 open public triples on Classics. It's really hard to find games these days.

off base? really? he stated he is targeting them for medals and not points, so to him it is not farming. that is a pretty clear statement, i have no idea how i am so off base.-0

You couldn't recognize that sarcasm?

damn you all!!! let me fly off the handle without being called out!!! you got me...-0

[jpcloet]

C'mon, I even gave you the wink....

[VampireM]

C'mon, I even gave you the wink....

u hitting on owen jp?

[obliterationX]

Ludicrous statement - I searched my doubles freestyle games and only 1 out of 87 games are against New Recruits.

New Recruits NOW. But you have to take into account who were new recruits when they started the games. For instance, I can 100% GUARANTEE the freemie cook in Game 5322719 was a new recruit, because I saw that game waiting for players.

Woah, woah, woah. What's with dragging up the old games? And, for your information, that player was indeed a chef or higher when I played him / her. Do some research on wolfington's map rank and I'm sure you'll find out.

I suggest you do some research before making blatantly preposterous accusations in future, kid.

And, LOL @ owen's failing sarcasm detector.

[MeDeFe]

Medal farming?

Oh shit, more work...

[obliterationX]

Medal farming?

Oh shit, more work...

Not long to go, a mere 10 doubles victories, 10 quadruples victories, and ~20 triples games.

[AAFitz]

I think the only important thing here is the number of games where new recruits were targeted. One out of 87 is not systematic, and neither is two.

Systematic is subjective, but at the same time...its not that subjective. This however will of course serve as a warning, so in a way, it will stop any farming that may have occurred, which I imagine was the point of the question in the first place.

[owenshooter]

I think the only important thing here is the number of games where new recruits were targeted. One out of 87 is not systematic, and neither is two.

as someone stated earlier, won't the ranks have changed by now? the ranks don't stay the same on the games when you complete them, they continually fluctuate as members go up and down in rank... it seems a bit systematic to me... joining team 2 against a "?" newb in hopes of another newb joining and the accused grabbing an easy victory for a MEDAL not POINTS, which he admitted to. he said it in his own posts, he doesn't believe it is farming because he is going after medals and not points... either way you look at it, he is targeting newbs systematically to gain SOMETHING... right?...-0

[obliterationX]

I think the only important thing here is the number of games where new recruits were targeted. One out of 87 is not systematic, and neither is two.

as someone stated earlier, won't the ranks have changed by now? the ranks don't stay the same on the games when you complete them, they continually fluctuate as members go up and down in rank... it seems a bit systematic to me... joining team 2 against a "?" newb in hopes of another newb joining and the accused grabbing an easy victory for a MEDAL not POINTS, which he admitted to. he said it in his own posts, he doesn't believe it is farming because he is going after medals and not points... either way you look at it, he is targeting newbs systematically to gain SOMETHING... right?...-0

The thing is, I'm not targeting New Recruits.

[AAFitz]

I think the only important thing here is the number of games where new recruits were targeted. One out of 87 is not systematic, and neither is two.

as someone stated earlier, won't the ranks have changed by now? the ranks don't stay the same on the games when you complete them, they continually fluctuate as members go up and down in rank... it seems a bit systematic to me... joining team 2 against a "?" newb in hopes of another newb joining and the accused grabbing an easy victory for a MEDAL not POINTS, which he admitted to. he said it in his own posts, he doesn't believe it is farming because he is going after medals and not points... either way you look at it, he is targeting newbs systematically to gain SOMETHING... right?...-0

How many? That is the key. He can join one or two here or there. Lack specifically stated this himself.

So, do your homework, find out how many new recruits he actually joined, and then maybe you have some kind of case.
Until then, youre just making unfounded accusations based on nothing but your personal beliefs.

If hes joined quite a few, then Im sure he will be warned...at two its simply laughable. And assuming he has played more, and posting that without checking or providing the games is just posting unsubstantiated guesses. Im kind of amazed at your willingness to send out so many unfounded accusations actually. If you want to actually help CC and not lose any credibility you might have, you should probably actually do the homework on these. Up to you of course. Just a helpful suggestion.

[the.killing.44]

I think the only important thing here is the number of games where new recruits were targeted. One out of 87 is not systematic, and neither is two.

as someone stated earlier, won't the ranks have changed by now? the ranks don't stay the same on the games when you complete them, they continually fluctuate as members go up and down in rank... it seems a bit systematic to me... joining team 2 against a "?" newb in hopes of another newb joining and the accused grabbing an easy victory for a MEDAL not POINTS, which he admitted to. he said it in his own posts, he doesn't believe it is farming because he is going after medals and not points... either way you look at it, he is targeting newbs systematically to gain SOMETHING... right?...-0

How many? That is the key. He can join one or two here or there. Lack specifically stated this himself.

So, do your homework, find out how many new recruits he actually joined, and then maybe you have some kind of case.
Until then, youre just making unfounded accusations based on nothing but your personal beliefs.

If hes joined quite a few, then Im sure he will be warned...at two its simply laughable. And assuming he has played more, and posting that without checking or providing the games is just posting unsubstantiated guesses. Im kind of amazed at your willingness to send out so many unfounded accusations actually. If you want to actually help CC and not lose any credibility you might have, you should probably actually do the homework on these. Up to you of course. Just a helpful suggestion.

The thing is, there's no way to tell which players were New Recruits at time of making the game. As you can see from the OP, a good amount, if not the majority, of his/their games were joined while Team 1 was only 1/x-filled.

[jpcloet]

Can we all agree that regardless of the current rules, that it is sad and a little pathetic that players of such high skill and experience would be joining these games? This thread is not in C&A and I think the OP had a good point putting it here.

[Timminz]

there's no way to tell which players were New Recruits at time of making the game.

Not exactly true. If you were to check the list of all games a player has played, and can determine that the game in question was started before they finished 5 games, they would have been a new recruit when it started.

Systematic is subjective, but at the same time...its not that subjective. This however will of course serve as a warning, so in a way, it will stop any farming that may have occurred, which I imagine was the point of the question in the first place.

That is a spot-on observation.

Can we all agree that regardless of the current rules, that it is sad and a little pathetic that players of such high skill and experience would be joining these games? This thread is not in C&A and I think the OP had a good point putting it here.

Also correct. I really put this here as an attempt to stop the pathetic behaviour, not to have anyone punished for being pathetic.

I honestly didn't even clue in to the fact that a mod was one of the players here, until someone pointed it out after I'd posted the thread.

[the.killing.44]

there's no way to tell which players were New Recruits at time of making the game.

Not exactly true. If you were to check the list of all games a player has played, and can determine that the game in question was started before they finished 5 games, they would have been a new recruit when it started.

I'm talking about creating a game, not when it was initialized. So basically I could've created a game as a ?, maybe it takes 13 days for it to start, but I've had 20 games start and end within those 13 days. No real way to tell.

[Timminz]

there's no way to tell which players were New Recruits at time of making the game.

Not exactly true. If you were to check the list of all games a player has played, and can determine that the game in question was started before they finished 5 games, they would have been a new recruit when it started.

I'm talking about creating a game, not when it was initialized. So basically I could've created a game as a ?, maybe it takes 13 days for it to start, but I've had 20 games start and end within those 13 days. No real way to tell.

Maybe not, but it's not hard to tell if someone is "skirting the rules".