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Postby Marvaddin on Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:35 pm

red bull wrote:ok first of all i did not know you were alowed to tell your job . the way i play it at home is you are not alowed to tell your job sorry for that and second I AM SURE WE SHOULD NOT kill fircoal BUT i picked marv just because if he is smart and mafia he would have picked up that i was defending fircoal for a reason and that i knew something and that i could find out something possibly about him next time so he would want my self and fircoal dead. you see thats what i was getting at with him!

So, cop, would I put myself under your suspicious doing that? Why dont you investigate me? But all players here have realized as suspicious the way you were defending fircoal, not only me.

Anyway, you have convinced me. Reading again the posts, you have mentioned as strange the way Fircoal and XenHu were not talking each other, so you have decided to investigate Fircoal. It makes sense to me.

I agree with this:
Machiavelli wrote:Nyvek's post struck me as strange, like he was trying to keep people from sharing to much info.

But I dont think Nyvek is guilty, at least, this is not enough. And in fact, I trust in Mach.

At other hand, I dont trust wicked... 1st, shes a woman :wink: 2nd, she looks strange:
wicked wrote:hmmm.. maybe Nyvek knows something about others from his PM too? What do you know Nyvek???

Then:
wicked wrote:not prodding, just going off your "Nyvek seems strange" post. Didn't expect him to actually answer!!!

Whats her goal, then? Plus, a silly question with an accusing voice:
wicked wrote:whoa there.... if the PM from IC told you what Fircola was, WHY DID YOU INVESTIGATE HIM???????????????????????????????????

And now:
wicked wrote:Sorry guys, I know this makes me look scummy going after someone claiming cop, but I don't believe Rojo. Regular cops aren't told roles, only mafia cops are. Rojo wouldn't know that, having never played here.

vote red bull

She posted about mafia cops getting roles before red bull reply. Red bull is the stupidiest mafia member ever, or just replied in a good faith, and wicked is not considering that this game possibly has another moderator.

In fact, who are you, wicked? FOS wicked
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Postby Fircoal on Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:39 pm

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red bull wrote:ok first of all i did not know you were alowed to tell your job . the way i play it at home is you are not alowed to tell your job sorry for that and second I AM SURE WE SHOULD NOT kill fircoal BUT i picked marv just because if he is smart and mafia he would have picked up that i was defending fircoal for a reason and that i knew something and that i could find out something possibly about him next time so he would want my self and fircoal dead. you see thats what i was getting at with him!

So, cop, would I put myself under your suspicious doing that? Why dont you investigate me? But all players here have realized as suspicious the way you were defending fircoal, not only me.

Anyway, you have convinced me. Reading again the posts, you have mentioned as strange the way Fircoal and XenHu were not talking each other, so you have decided to investigate Fircoal. It makes sense to me.

I agree with this:
Machiavelli wrote:Nyvek's post struck me as strange, like he was trying to keep people from sharing to much info.

But I dont think Nyvek is guilty, at least, this is not enough. And in fact, I trust in Mach.

At other hand, I dont trust wicked... 1st, shes a woman :wink: 2nd, she looks strange:
wicked wrote:hmmm.. maybe Nyvek knows something about others from his PM too? What do you know Nyvek???

Then:
wicked wrote:not prodding, just going off your "Nyvek seems strange" post. Didn't expect him to actually answer!!!

Whats her goal, then? Plus, a silly question with an accusing voice:
wicked wrote:whoa there.... if the PM from IC told you what Fircola was, WHY DID YOU INVESTIGATE HIM???????????????????????????????????

And now:
wicked wrote:Sorry guys, I know this makes me look scummy going after someone claiming cop, but I don't believe Rojo. Regular cops aren't told roles, only mafia cops are. Rojo wouldn't know that, having never played here.

vote red bull

She posted about mafia cops getting roles before red bull reply. Red bull is the stupidiest mafia member ever, or just replied in a good faith, and wicked is not considering that this game possibly has another moderator.

In fact, who are you, wicked? FOS wicked

Actually, I'm starting to trust Wicked. I don't get why you seem to thing that the jokes show any proof?
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Postby Marvaddin on Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:41 pm

Where are you seeing jokes, mate? Did I miss something?
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Postby Fircoal on Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:43 pm

Marvaddin wrote:Where are you seeing jokes, mate? Did I miss something?


I seems that the first three quotes from Wicked were jokes, or in a joking format. Did I misread them?
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Postby wicked on Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:47 pm

I surely wish we could imply tone on here, b/c then it would be obvious I was joking with Nyvek. sorry if that was not understood.

yes I took into account this is IC's first game as mod, but every single game on here so far has followed the same format, so stands to reason this one does too, since IC seems to be borrowing the format that Andy has set in all other ways.

I just don't believe rojo. I think he's a mafia cop claiming cop for cover and screwed up in giving us too much info b/c he didn't realize not all cops are given the same info. It's exactly what happened in one of Auto's games and that person was a mafia cop as well.
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Postby wicked on Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:49 pm

Fircoal wrote:
Marvaddin wrote:Where are you seeing jokes, mate? Did I miss something?


I seems that the first three quotes from Wicked were jokes, or in a joking format. Did I misread them?


no you didn't misread. I think it gets lost in the translation though. :?
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Postby Fircoal on Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:53 pm

wicked wrote:I surely wish we could imply tone on here, b/c then it would be obvious I was joking with Nyvek. sorry if that was not understood.

yes I took into account this is IC's first game as mod, but every single game on here so far has followed the same format, so stands to reason this one does too, since IC seems to be borrowing the format that Andy has set in all other ways.

I just don't believe rojo. I think he's a mafia cop claiming cop for cover and screwed up in giving us too much info b/c he didn't realize not all cops are given the same info. It's exactly what happened in one of Auto's games and that person was a mafia cop as well.


What format is that?

ALso, you bring up a good point, though, I think I might have to re-read that trip up. I was just following after my death, then.
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Postby wicked on Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:53 pm

Marvaddin wrote:Whats her goal, then? Plus, a silly question with an accusing voice:
wicked wrote:whoa there.... if the PM from IC told you what Fircola was, WHY DID YOU INVESTIGATE HIM???????????????????????????????????



Let me explain that, b/c it does look silly. When reading back through here again, I saw PM and immediately thought role PM. My mistake!! Sully pointed that out and I went duh! lol
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Postby Nyvek on Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:54 pm

wicked wrote:Sorry guys, I know this makes me look scummy going after someone claiming cop, but I don't believe Rojo. Regular cops aren't told roles, only mafia cops are. Rojo wouldn't know that, having never played here.

vote red bull


AK, can we get a mod ruling on whether or not Regular Cops are given roles from their investigations?
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Postby wicked on Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:55 pm

Fircola, by format, I just mean how he runs the game, the rules, the day scenes, etc...

I could be wrong, I don't know, but it's exactly how we caught someone in one of Auto's games and I can't get that out of my mind. I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this though.
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Postby Marvaddin on Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:56 pm

I still think wicked posts were not jokes. The 1st one came as immediate reply:
Nyvek wrote:@Wicked That's cool. I didn't mean anyone did. It was just for anyone who didn't know.

wicked wrote:hmmm.. maybe Nyvek knows something about others from his PM too? What do you know Nyvek???

To me she was asking it there was someone that Nyvek had directed the other post to. Doesnt seem a joke to me. "hmmm..." is usually used when you are thinking. There is no smilie or "lol". Dont know why you read it as joke.

I was not the single one to read it as serious post:
Machiavelli wrote:How do you figure that, and why are you prodding?

And she replied with her second post.

The 3rd one is clearly a serious post:
wicked wrote:
sully800 wrote:
wicked wrote:whoa there.... if the PM from IC told you what Fircola was, WHY DID YOU INVESTIGATE HIM???????????????????????????????????


I believe he meant the PM he received from IC about the investigation :P



Ok that makes sense, but usually only mafia cops get to know roles and regular cops are just told pro-town or pro-mafia. How do we know he's not a mafia cop???

In the mafia game I won as mafia, wicked were mafia too and was the most reliable person, according to the townies... But if there is a good reason you trust her, share with us.
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Postby wicked on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:00 am

Marv, I was replying to Mach's post and was fast-posted by Nyvek. Mach said something like what are you trying to supress Nyvek, and I said something like yeah yeah Nyvek what do you know huh huh? Clearly I didn't expect an answer. :roll: It was a rhetorical question, like asking someone "what's your role?"
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Postby Fircoal on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:00 am

wicked wrote:Fircola, by format, I just mean how he runs the game, the rules, the day scenes, etc...

I could be wrong, I don't know, but it's exactly how we caught someone in one of Auto's games and I can't get that out of my mind. I would like to hear everyone's thoughts on this though.


I don't know, he may use Andy's same way. But when I set up a game, I didn't try to make it like the other games. So, I don't know if AK, would follow the same format.
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Postby wicked on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:02 am

you're right, there's a chance he may not, but there's a bigger chance he would. hell, he even copied the rules. anyway, if you guys think that's not a good enough reason to not believe rojo, then that's fine. It just keeps bugging me b/c of that other game.
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Postby sully800 on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:04 am

wicked wrote:yes I took into account this is IC's first game as mod, but every single game on here so far has followed the same format, so stands to reason this one does too, since IC seems to be borrowing the format that Andy has set in all other ways.

I just don't believe rojo. I think he's a mafia cop claiming cop for cover and screwed up in giving us too much info b/c he didn't realize not all cops are given the same info. It's exactly what happened in one of Auto's games and that person was a mafia cop as well.


How many people actually know the exact format of message that Andy posted to cop's investigations? I do because I was the cop in the fantasy land game, so I know that he would just tell me guilty or innocent, but not the role of the person.

Does everyone know that though? Perhaps if it was discussed in Finnrock because I didn't read that whole thread. But I don't think AK was ever a cop- in fact he was killed off pretty early in two of the games. So perhaps HE didn't know that Andy didn't give out roles to the cop's investigations. And even if he did know I see no reason why AK wouldn't change it up for his own game if he wanted to.

By the way Marvaddin, I'm having similar feelings to you about wicked (but then again I always seem to think wicked is mafia).
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Postby Fircoal on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:05 am

wicked wrote:you're right, there's a chance he may not, but there's a bigger chance he would. hell, he even copied the rules. anyway, if you guys think that's not a good enough reason to not believe rojo, then that's fine. It just keeps bugging me b/c of that other game.


I think it might be a good enough reason, because even I did that. Well maybe, he doesn't know my role.
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Postby Fircoal on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:07 am

the fact of cop investigations being only guilty or innocent wouldn't that be only common sense. What if there was an insane cop, what would they get. Not Doctor, or what?
Now, I'm not impling there is an insane cop, but just what if?
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Postby wicked on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:07 am

Actually Sully it's been discussed in a few games before this one that IC has either been in or followed along (I know b/c he told me he did).
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Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:08 am

First, I'd like to start with what I hate...Submarine Players...I.E. under the radar posters:
    Sam Jam, was fishing for info on page 3, though only minor. But hasn't been very active.

    Dcowboys, few posts...latched right on to Xenhu bandwagon on page 5.

    Lt. Mustard, just not very active.

    Kernal_K, general inactivity, playing the noob card.

    Trestain, quick votes on page 8.

Those are the few odd balls that pop out, in regards to activity or lack there of.

Secondly, interesting to note on page 2...supercram butted heads with Fircoal, and even voted. Perhaps it was an elaborate mafia plan (or perhaps they are in opposing mafias, if there are more than one), but something to consider, since Supercram is confirmed Mafia.

Thirdly, Puff's posts strike me as odd...I'm not sure why. Perhaps the general lack of content...and his will follow bandwagon on page 11.

Fourthly, Marv asks about identities and about fircoal being mason. It's ture we've used that in past games, but at the current moment, there doesn't seem to be a need to reveal such information. Interesting nonetheless.

There's more I'd like to talk about, but hm, I can't get it all straight.

Ooh, one last thing. I'd like to point out Rev curious about the information I have, as is Sully, and Nyvek...just incase anything happens tonight to me.


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Postby wicked on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:11 am

thanks for keeping track of the low-posters Andy!! I'd like to add Moz to that list just b/c I KNOW he was on today catching up and was shocked to not see a post by him after that.
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Postby Fircoal on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:13 am

Kernal_K, hasn't appeared in my mafia game yet, either, maybe he's just not visiting CC, or the forums.
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Postby Fircoal on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:14 am

wicked wrote:thanks for keeping track of the low-posters Andy!! I'd like to add Moz to that list just b/c I KNOW he was on today catching up and was shocked to not see a post by him after that.


Moz did that in Finn rock, and was mafia.

Correct me if I'm wrong, because I didn't really read it, just some things I saw from some pages.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:14 am

True, some people don't visist often as others, but I always like to take note of those who fly under the radar... I.E. Moz did that pretty well in Finn Rock.


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Postby wicked on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:16 am

and the funny thing was we all knew it, but kept focusing on others! lol
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Postby Fircoal on Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:17 am

wicked wrote:and the funny thing was we all knew it, but kept focusing on others! lol


I read that so much, and wondered why nobody lynched him.
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