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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby BoganGod on Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:00 am

lord voldemort wrote:
FrancisBoyle wrote:I'd like to see Team CC admit they were wrong and apologize.

clapper011 wrote:oh and what about those games that jefjef's team were already losing? :-s including this one? :
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There is a big difference between losing and lost.

They have admitted there was a mistake, check that we have. And it has been said numerous time that King Sam will apologize if he hasnt already pm'd jef. Perhaps reading a thread or two before posting might serve you well ;)


Get off the high horse sunshine. PUBLIC ADMISSION!!!!! That is what we want. A clear decision and ruling by a sensible and fair person on making all games point neutral, if not a pretty damn good reason why not.

Lord Voldemort rather than sniping at people defensively, and I know you are trying to fix this but can't. Keep on trying to contact people that have power and can change things. Your remark to francis was catty and beneath what I would expect from you. Don't compound a grevious if honest mistake by another member of your team, by coming across as arrogant and defensive. I expect better from you mate, and I think the community as a whole expects better and swift action. :roll:
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby lord voldemort on Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:04 am

I know the community wants action fast but unfortunately as I have told you BG Andy and opie have hours they are online to deal with Admin stuff. They are 'due' online real soon and until then there is nothing that can be done that hasnt already been done. For now I recommend to sit tight and wait for an Admin to weigh in.
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby BoganGod on Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:07 am

lord voldemort wrote:I know the community wants action fast but unfortunately as I have told you BG Andy and opie have hours they are online to deal with Admin stuff. They are 'due' online real soon and until then there is nothing that can be done that hasnt already been done. For now I recommend to sit tight and wait for an Admin to weigh in.


Yes you have told me that. I was taking offense at your catty behaviour towards a clan leader. Suggesting that people are illerate isn't really that helpful kiddo.
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby tdans on Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:43 am

i totally agree with Bogan here.. an apology would be nice.. :) newby mods :P.. gotta love them... Hey CC mods.. teach the Newbie mods how to ban correctly please.. i dont wanna get banned cause of an accidental missclick :O.. have a great day...
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Re: jefjef

Postby tdans on Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:46 am

jefjef is heartbroken...the mods need to get him a blanky,a toothbrush, a Kitty cat, and a teletubby.. these gifts would help drastically in healing jefjefs broken heart.. come on Mods lets give him what he needs... oh and jefjef also would like some weed to help improve his day :shock:
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby anonymus on Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:17 am

yeah, im just in supporting jefjef, everything has been said.. apologise and play jefjef 1on1 and lose your points to him..
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby Tisha on Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:20 am

tdans wrote:i totally agree with Bogan here.. an apology would be nice.. :) newby mods :P.. gotta love them... Hey CC mods.. teach the Newbie mods how to ban correctly please.. i dont wanna get banned cause of an accidental missclick :O.. have a great day...

well then don't misbehave.. duh

and you can't really say which games were lost or won. There might be a few that were about finished, but for the majority of games... dice can change games in a couple turns.
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby tdans on Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:22 am

Tisha wrote:
tdans wrote:i totally agree with Bogan here.. an apology would be nice.. :) newby mods :P.. gotta love them... Hey CC mods.. teach the Newbie mods how to ban correctly please.. i dont wanna get banned cause of an accidental missclick :O.. have a great day...

well then don't misbehave.. duh

and you can't really say which games were lost or won. There might be a few that were about finished, but for the majority of games... dice can change games in a couple turns.


at least half of his games are gonna be lost :(.. but yaya whats done is done...

on the other note.. i dont intend on misbehaving.. but Cc is kinda picky now :/
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby BoganGod on Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:22 am

anonymus wrote:yeah, im just in supporting jefjef, everything has been said.. apologise and play jefjef 1on1 and lose your points to him..


Thats going a bit far mate. A mistake was made. Hopefully points will be made neutral. Calling for the person that made a grevious but honest mistake to repay by points is just taking it a bit to far. Sorry but can't agree with that.
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby KraphtOne on Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:29 am

I'm In One Of The Games He Was Booted From And It's Not So Much That His Opponents Get The Advantage As His Teammates Can Also Get An Advantage...

i.e. if his partner was gifted australia when jefjef was kicked from the game and their troops combined...

It just screws up the game all the way around and they should be dropped...

like i say we're 3 vs 4 right now and i'd rather just start the damn thing over
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:30 am

We'll see what can be done about the mistake and to rectify it. Most of that is in Lack's territory, as I know nothing of how he can finagle points around or should he want to.

JefJef, and those affected, I apologize for the mistake we have made.


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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby BoganGod on Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:37 am

AndyDufresne wrote:We'll see what can be done about the mistake and to rectify it. Most of that is in Lack's territory, as I know nothing of how he can finagle points around or should he want to.

JefJef, and those affected, I apologize for the mistake we have made.


--Andy


Thank you Andy. Now I hope that we see some positive action. The general consensus is points neutral. It can be done. If it is hard to do, maybe we won't see a repeat of this mistake :)
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby king sam on Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:23 am

Sorry this thread is even in existence, and even more sorry that I wasn't around to post a public apology sooner then this.

I have already PM'd jefjef as soon as this instance took place but he wont be able to see that until he is released from his 24 hour forum vacation.

A mistake was made that I am completely responsible for and feel extremely bad for. The result of my mistake left jefjef, his partners, and game mates high and dry.

There is nothing more that I can do except apologize dearly for this mistake.

I value all the support I have been given in the past and hope this slip up
(while it turned out to be a doozie) doesn't change that.

If anything can be done to rectify this then I assure you it will be, but as far as I know at this point the most I can do is humbly apologize again and again. So I continue to do so, although it may not make it right it was an honest mistake and I'm sorry.

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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby Woodruff on Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:32 am

king sam wrote:Sorry this thread is even in existence, and even more sorry that I wasn't around to post a public apology sooner then this.

I have already PM'd jefjef as soon as this instance took place but he wont be able to see that until he is released from his 24 hour forum vacation.

A mistake was made that I am completely responsible for and feel extremely bad for. The result of my mistake left jefjef, his partners, and game mates high and dry.

There is nothing more that I can do except apologize dearly for this mistake.

I value all the support I have been given in the past and hope this slip up
(while it turned out to be a doozie) doesn't change that.

If anything can be done to rectify this then I assure you it will be, but as far as I know at this point the most I can do is humbly apologize again and again. So I continue to do so, although it may not make it right it was an honest mistake and I'm sorry.

King Sam


Hopefully (and I believe he will), Jefjef will recognize this was a simple mistake on your part by considering your past tremendous good work and behavior. Jefjef is a reasonable fellow in my experience.
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby tdans on Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:36 am

King Sam[/quote]

Woodruff wrote:
king sam wrote:Sorry this thread is even in existence, and even more sorry that I wasn't around to post a public apology sooner then this.

I have already PM'd jefjef as soon as this instance took place but he wont be able to see that until he is released from his 24 hour forum vacation.

A mistake was made that I am completely responsible for and feel extremely bad for. The result of my mistake left jefjef, his partners, and game mates high and dry.

There is nothing more that I can do except apologize dearly for this mistake.

I value all the support I have been given in the past and hope this slip up
(while it turned out to be a doozie) doesn't change that.

If anything can be done to rectify this then I assure you it will be, but as far as I know at this point the most I can do is humbly apologize again and again. So I continue to do so, although it may not make it right it was an honest mistake and I'm sorry.

King Sam


Hopefully (and I believe he will), Jefjef will recognize this was a simple mistake on your part by considering your past tremendous good work and behavior. Jefjef is a reasonable fellow in my experience.


Im sure Jefjef will forgive King Sam... it wont be too easy tho.. and as for King sam... Nicely done m8 on your apology.. we all do make mistakes :) some worse that others:P.. but to come out and apologize openly is something not many are willing to do.:) peace out yall.. meet ya in the battlefield
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby sully800 on Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:45 am

This was always one of the reasons that I supported NOT kicking busted players from their games. Because if a mistake is made, then the player is already kicked from the game and it cannot be easily undone.

Most people on the site complained about this and said the occasional mistaken bust is worth not having to play with convicted cheaters. Well, here are the results of that mindset!

Obviously, all possible precautions should be taken to prevent mistakes like this. BUT we are all human and mistakes will happen, so under the new "kick busted players" rule so innocent people will be negatively affected. Hopefully lack can undo the damage and we won't see many instances like this in the future.
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby MrPanzerGeneral on Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:56 am

sully800 wrote:This was always one of the reasons that I supported NOT kicking busted players from their games. Because if a mistake is made, then the player is already kicked from the game and it cannot be easily undone.


As I did sully. I was not meaning to disrail the thread but the nietsche quote very apt to the high-handed-ness and inconsistent rulings and behaviour we see so often from particular Mods - Clappers' attitude expouses this sometimes.

Still they are only human. Good on you for apologising sam. Mistakes will always be made.

Now let's see Admin sort this whole load of garbage out !!
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Re: jefjef

Postby GallantPellham on Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:57 am

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the.killing.44 wrote:Okay, congrats to CC who gave him a site-ban instead of a forum-ban. But I'm cool with it. A friend is back but he's still out of our game, and thus I have 7 cards at 15 cash. Game 5564901



That's weird. I've never seen someone with 7 cards when it wasn't their turn.


So, if someone gets banned from the site, and they are in a team game, their cards go to the next player on their team?

It sucks to be on the wrong side of that when we had him down to 1 and set up to take his cards.
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby Nola_Lifer on Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:16 pm

If jefjef wasn't always causing trouble then accidents like these would not happen, so maybe jefjef should apologize also to the mod for causing them headaches day in and day out. :roll:
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby tdans on Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:33 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:If jefjef wasn't always causing trouble then accidents like these would not happen, so maybe jefjef should apologize also to the mod for causing them headaches day in and day out. :roll:

seriously?? dude get outa here... go somewhere else and talk like that.. but not here
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby Gypsys Kiss on Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:37 pm

tdans wrote:
Nola_Lifer wrote:If jefjef wasn't always causing trouble then accidents like these would not happen, so maybe jefjef should apologize also to the mod for causing them headaches day in and day out. :roll:

seriously?? dude get outa here... go somewhere else and talk like that.. but not here


Why not...its a valid point view, or is only mod bashing allowed?
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby Nola_Lifer on Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:48 pm

tdans wrote:
Nola_Lifer wrote:If jefjef wasn't always causing trouble then accidents like these would not happen, so maybe jefjef should apologize also to the mod for causing them headaches day in and day out. :roll:

seriously?? dude get outa here... go somewhere else and talk like that.. but not here


I got screwed in a tournament with jefjef, so i have every right to say my mind. Its only fair and someone needs to back the mods up. You think its easy being hated on by yall or dealing with 20 and 30 yr olds acting like they are 12. Jefjef is awesome. Don't get me wrong but it was his actions that lead up to the other actions. :-$
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby tdans on Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:
tdans wrote:
Nola_Lifer wrote:If jefjef wasn't always causing trouble then accidents like these would not happen, so maybe jefjef should apologize also to the mod for causing them headaches day in and day out. :roll:

seriously?? dude get outa here... go somewhere else and talk like that.. but not here


I got screwed in a tournament with jefjef, so i have every right to say my mind. Its only fair and someone needs to back the mods up. You think its easy being hated on by yall or dealing with 20 and 30 yr olds acting like they are 12. Jefjef is awesome. Don't get me wrong but it was his actions that lead up to the other actions. :-$


i must say his mouth does get him in trouble :P
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby Kotaro on Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:56 pm

Couldn't have happened to a better candidate.

Sucks for his partners, but hell, when you associate yourself with assholes, shit happens.. Think of how piss'd you'll be when you're in a team game with him and he does get his appropriate website ban.
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Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Postby MrPanzerGeneral on Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:58 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:
tdans wrote:
Nola_Lifer wrote:If jefjef wasn't always causing trouble then accidents like these would not happen, so maybe jefjef should apologize also to the mod for causing them headaches day in and day out. :roll:

seriously?? dude get outa here... go somewhere else and talk like that.. but not here


I got screwed in a tournament with jefjef, so i have every right to say my mind. Its only fair and someone needs to back the mods up. You think its easy being hated on by yall or dealing with 20 and 30 yr olds acting like they are 12. Jefjef is awesome. Don't get me wrong but it was his actions that lead up to the other actions. :-$


And all he did was speak his mind, disagree with a Mod - with a very valid point - and look what happened ??
no swearing, on topic, no flaming yada yada yada. granted the site ban was a mistake but even a forum ban was way "over the top" If you want to back the Mods up for this type of behaviour on their part, well, I better not say what I think of you.

as for Kotaro's post...come in then Clapper......does he get a site ban/forum ban for that ???
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