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Postby Kabanellas on Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:38 pm

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Idea/Concept - Raskholnikov
Design/Concept - Kabanellas
Code - ender516

After a lot of inside debate, here it is, the map we’ve been promising (this is version #21 btw, I'm posting previous tests and versions below).
The idea was to recreate Europe by the time of Napoleon, in 1812 precisely. Europe by that time offers a multitude of political and social idiosyncrasies holding all the right ingredients for a map that could be both interesting in terms of game-play and at the same time respect carefully all historical facts.

Graphically, the map is designed on a ‘handmade look’ concept. A map that could be handled by Napoleon himself. ;)

European Powers

French Empire: 12
France: 6
Empire: 6

British Empire: 8
United Kingdom: 6
British Fortresses: 2

Russian Empire: 12
Ottoman Empire: 10
Austrian Empire: 5
Kingdom of Prussia: 4
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Confederation of the Rhine: 4
Denmark: 2
Sweden: 2
Swiss Confederation: 1
Poland: 2
Kingdom of Italy: 1
Kingdom of Sardinia: 1
Kingdom of Naples and Sicily: 2
Kingdom of Portugal: 2
Kingdom of Spain: 6

Naval Battles: 8
Land Battles: 20

Regions (total) - 82
Starting neutral - 29
To be distributed by players - 53

XML- http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/11/9/2644838/NapoleonicEurope.V1.13.xml
Large map- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V41a_Image_OF.png
Small map- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V44_Image_small_OF.png

Large map version 41
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Small map version 44
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Last versions
Version 21- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V21.jpg
Version 22- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V22a.jpg
Version 25- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V25Image.png
Version 26- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V26image.png
Version 27- http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_1-3ab_img.png
Version 28 - http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V28Image.png
Version 29 - http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V29Image_img.png
Version 32 - http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V30_img.png
Version 33 - http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V32_Image.png
Version 34 - http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V33_Image.png
Version 36 - http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V36_Image-1.png
Version 39 - http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V38b_Image.png


You can check out some of the earlier versions and tests for this design below:

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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby Beko the Great on Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:17 am

Hi there Kabanellas! First, rename Oporto to Porto. If the language of the map is English, then, by the newest english convention, it must be named Porto (the name in Portuguese as you know). Then, about Portugal as well, Porto area is including Lisbon which is just funny :).

More, I'm not sure if the actual XML supports the idea of Russian Winter, that is, killing 2 armies per turn is allowed, but the other condition I'm not sure if it works, that is, if owning Moscow that thing doesn't happen...

Beside these two small concerns, I think gameplay is fine and the graphics are awesome!

Good luck with this one!
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby Kabanellas on Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:34 am

Thanks a lot Beko.

Didn’t know that :). I’ve been reading Oporto everywhere outside Portugal for so long that I might have missed something. We’ll change it.

The border line was drawn through river Tejo… I’ll move it up a bit to cover Lisbon as well.
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:48 am

Ah this looks great. I'm so excited to play it!

I'd say either lose or move the swords, Egypt gets lost in them.

And Essex would not be the correct name for that part of England, I believe. Perhaps Sussex, Somerset, or Devon, maybe even Cornwall, would work for it.

I definitely have more crits and will keep them coming, running low on time and I didn't want to forget them while I thought of 'em. Nice work so far!
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby Raskholnikov on Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:10 am

Thanks for the comments, Helix. We'll change the UK region to Sussex, as you proposed.

As to the swords, I think they don't take anything away from Egypt and Palestine - in fact, they are both decorative and a good transition from the legends to the map and a way to establish a western border to the Ottoman Empire, which as we know continued to west to Lybia and south to Sudan (although of course the actual control of Istanbul over North Africa varied with times and was tenuous at best).

I look forward to hear your other comments! Thanks again for your input!
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby Kabanellas on Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:55 am

Thanks a lot Helix.

Well those swords… how I love those swords left there by Napoleon’s officers, thrown over the board map with no care. :)
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby thenobodies80 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:16 pm

Beko the Great wrote:More, I'm not sure if the actual XML supports the idea of Russian Winter, that is, killing 2 armies per turn is allowed, but the other condition I'm not sure if it works, that is, if owning Moscow that thing doesn't happen...


yes it can't be done. They will lose 2 troops even if you control Moscow.

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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby Raskholnikov on Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:20 pm

Thanks for claryfing this. I think it's a worthwhile feature to have even in this case, especially since none of the four territories concerned are border provinces which need to be defended in strength once one controls the Russian Empire. In addition, they will all start as 1-army neutrals, so this won't affect the drop either.
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby Kabanellas on Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:26 pm

seems reasonable to me
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby AndrewB on Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:25 pm

Here is some of the things I have mentioned:

1. I dont think mountains goes well with this map.
2. Can we have a one way arrow from Corse to Gibraltar? Cause is was looking for an explanation for a star for awhile.
3. Should not it be called Corsica, not Corse?
4. Is the a country in Balearic islands? Same question to crete and cyprus.
5. It is difficult to understand the bonus structure in the central europe. Some areas have 2 colors around them...
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby Raskholnikov on Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:42 pm

1. I dont think mountains goes well with this map.

Why? we used them sparingly and only where they are impassable and contribute to the balance of the game.

2. Can we have a one way arrow from Corse to Gibraltar? Cause is was looking for an explanation for a star for awhile.

Yes. We can do the same with Gibraltar.

3. Should not it be called Corsica, not Corse?

All French territories use the name of that territory in French. Corsica is Corse in French.

4. Is the a country in Balearic islands? Same question to crete and cyprus.

No for all. Balearics are part of Valencia, Crete of Greece, Cyprus of Anatolia.

5. It is difficult to understand the bonus structure in the central europe. Some areas have 2 colors around them...

Yes. This represents the dynamics of border changes under Napoleon. The inner color is the color of the empire who lost these territories because of Napoleon's intervention. The border color represents the political unit to which they belong now. Should they be reconquered by their original owner, the original owner gets a bonus.

Example: Prussia lost Warsaw to Poland, Hessen and Saxony to The Rhine Confederation ( both political entities created by Napoleon, which now have their own bunus). Should Prussia reconquer either Warsaw, or Hessen and Saxony together, it will get an additional army for each.

The same applies to Austria regarding Krakow and the Illyrian provinces, as well as to the Ottoman Empire and Bessarabia (ceded to Russia in 1812, a few days before Napoleon's Russian campaign began).

I hope this clarifies matters. I think the legend is very clear on this last point.

Thank you for your comments.
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby Raskholnikov on Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:48 pm

I must regretfully announce that the.killling.44 is no longer part of the Napoleonic Europe 1812 project. He kindly offered to help when I first proposed this project and post the original outline map. He agreed that the work would be shared between the two of us and Kabanellas, our third team member. Kabanellas is an architecht in real life and I hoped he would concentrate on the graphic aspect of the task, while the.killing.44 would focus on coding the map in XML, which is his expertise.

I started doing the graphic work with Kabanellas, as shown by the various drafts posted. Kabanellas asked me to provide him with borders to use, and since I do not have adequate equipment, I provided the.killing.44, in good faith, with all the maps and links required to develop the map and spent a few hours with him dictating to him exactly what borders to draw, and what names to use. He then said he was interested to contribute to the artistic design too. I replied that he was welcome to, that he could present his ideas and we would all discuss them and pick out what would work best for the project.

For the next two weeks, the.killing.44 more or less dissappeared because of his school commitments. During this time, Kabanellas and I worked together on a virtually daily basis in two- to three hour sessions and went through 21 iterations to develop the map draft presented in the thread above. When the.killing.44 finally got back in touch again, he rejected virtually the entire work done by the two of us and said he wanted to take an entirely different "artistic direction". At this time, all he had in his possession was the basic map he had developed under my direction from maps I had provided him with.

Since we were supposed to work as a team, and given the fact that I knew he is a kid in ninth grade and wanted to be nice to him, I asked him to develop his ideas and bring them for discussion between the three of us, and we would then decide together what worked best.

After almost another week without hearing from him I contacted the.killing.44, who to my surprise and disappointment informed me that he intended to use "his" map to develop a competing project to the one he had originally joined. When I told him that he could not do this because the entire basis of Napoleonic Europe 1812, including all maps in his possession and all borders he had traced and names he has used and bonus structure we had developed has originated with Kabanellas and I, he stated, to my amazement, that:

"you gave me image links that if we disband i research and find on my own. i trace the borders from research that i have "refound" on my own, and it is still in my sole usage. from there, i go back and use publicly posted guides to determine what i want for "refound" bonuses, etc. as long as my map is "inherently different in gameplay or graphics" — as said in the foundry — it's mine and you cannot
disprove it."

I find such an attitude absolutely reprehensible. Even taking into consideration that we are dealing here with a 15 year old kid, such blatant bad faith and inability to work together as a team in a group cannot be simply ignored. Developing maps should be a fun, collaborative process, not an occasion to waste my time pacyfing the overblown ego of a child who is throwing a tantrum because work on this project has progressed while he was AWOL and wants now to start over from scratch - simply because he doesn't like the "artistic direction" taken by Kabanellas and wants to replace it with his own. Failing which, he proposes to set up a competing map based on the very same ideas, resources and direction I provided to him in good faith and claim he "refound" it all on his own. This is more than than the wounded pride of a little boy - it is outright dishonesty.

Therefore, as of now, the.killing.44 is no longer involved in the Napoleonic Europe 1812 project and any project on the same theme he might submit which is based on materials and directions he had access to in good faith while working with us should not be taken into consideration, as not being "INHERENTLY different in gameplay or graphics".
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby the.killing.44 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:57 pm

Hahaha. Basically, I said I wanted to figure out which graphical direction people liked better, and so we'd post two images. Then you said you thought I was going to leave the group, etc. etc. I never actually said that, but only wanted to get the idea out of your head I could actually make a map. You basically got riled up over a little thing and I played along to my amusement.

Whatever. I don't see why you needed to write a novel for public view. Good luck with the map, Kab.
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby Raskholnikov on Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:15 pm

Actually, this is how the chat developed:

"raskholnikov says: k. when do you think you will have a fully finished draft?
the.вбивствo.44 says:
soonish
i'll make a thread when i do
raskholnikov says:
a different thread? why? it's the same project we're supposed to work together, so let's keep it all togeher. post it in our thread and we'll take it from there.
the.вбивствo.44 says:
with two images?
raskholnikov says:
sure. we will eventually have to agree to one no?
the.вбивствo.44 says:
perhaps; in any case the same thread with two images isn't going to work
raskholnikov says:
well this will be very confusing it will look like we have two competing projects which is not the case; and i dont want that
the.вбивствo.44 says:
could be better for deciding an image
i'm all up for doing that
raskholnikov says:
doing what? having two competing projects?
the.вбивствo.44 says:
until we see which is the better accepted image
raskholnikov says:
no i dont agree. your map is the map i developed and i wont have it used by two different people who cant agree on graphics. i will not allow that. we're supposed to work together as a team, on one project.
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conflicting members ≠ a team"

Clearly, I did my best to keep this all within our team and integrate your ideas and suggestions into our work. You refused, decided you wanted to set up a separate thread, confirmed you wanted to develop a competing project "until we see which is the better accepted image" and implicitly stated you did not consider yourself part of the team working on this project because "conflicting members ≠ a team". Members of a team working on a project debate their ideas and learn to compromise in order to create the best possible project. They don't throw tantrums, threaten to set up alternative projects and to appropriate others' work as "refound" because I could not "disprove it". This is not a "small thing" about which I "got riled". It is sheer bad faith and dishonesty.
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Re: Napoleonic Europe 1812 (an original idea from Raskholnikov)

Postby the.killing.44 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:22 pm

raskol says:
i  can prove how i developed this map from the start and how you did all the borders on my instruction. i will not allow you to use my map as a competing map if you don;t work with us as a team.

At which point he started to threaten me that using ideas and public images was illegal. The point is you blew it up way too big when I wanted to put up two images and then talk to Kab. Which I still do. And I took it to PMs with him, as I would suggest you do if you want this to remain unlocked.
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