The worst map on CC

[RjBeals]

aww.. dustbowl haters started this thread - It was discussed during development to start decaying territs as neutrals, but ended up decided against. You might get lucky, you might not. Part of the fun.

I also think 1 of my favorites on the site is Iraq. Masterpiece.

There's only a handful of maps i normally play on anyway, so i don't know the worst.

[lgoasklucyl]

I would have to say City Mogul is the only poor map on CC, and that's merely because it's damn easily exploitable.

Every map on this site has had so much hours upon hours of feedback and effort poured into it that the individuals who worked on it deserve a lot of credit, regardless of whether or not individuals like playing the map.

[lgoasklucyl]

aww.. dustbowl haters started this thread - It was discussed during development to start decaying territs as neutrals, but ended up decided against. You might get lucky, you might not. Part of the fun.

I also think 1 of my favorites on the site is Iraq. Masterpiece.

There's only a handful of maps i normally play on anyway, so i don't know the worst.

I love Dust Bowl and Iraq

[owenshooter]

Austerlitz... enough said... throw that on my heap of despised maps... wow...-0

[ManBungalow]

There's only one map suggestion that I would really consider to be bad...

Some maps just take some getting used to.

[The Neon Peon]

Austerlitz... enough said... throw that on my heap of despised maps... wow...-0

What's wrong with it? I've played it several times and found all my games on it very enjoyable.

[the.killing.44]

Austerlitz... enough said... throw that on my heap of despised maps... wow...-0

Agreed. I find the connections really hard to see, not to mention the whole thing confusing.

[Georgerx7di]

Austerlitz... enough said... throw that on my heap of despised maps... wow...-0

One of two maps I haven't played yet.

I still say USA is the worst piece of crap ever made. Only one bonus comes into play. I hate that map. And yet I still see decent players playing it. Strange. I HATE USA MAP. It's worse than draknor, its worse than disc world, its worse than usa apoc. It's just the worst.

[slash17]

Wich map do u think is the worst map and y ?

[owenshooter]

Wich map do u think is the worst map and y ?

sigh... search is your friend... how did you miss the 6 page thread at the top of the GD when you came up with this thread?
Subject: The worst map on CC
enjoy!!!-0

[Seulessliathan]

Austerlitz... enough said... throw that on my heap of despised maps... wow...-0

One of two maps I haven't played yet.

I still say USA is the worst piece of crap ever made. Only one bonus comes into play. I hate that map. And yet I still see decent players playing it. Strange. I HATE USA MAP. It's worse than draknor, its worse than disc world, its worse than usa apoc. It's just the worst.

Classic, France and Canada (and i´m sure there are many more) have same bonus system, each 2 boni giving a +2 bonus, always one with 1 area border and 1 area with 2 borders. Oh, and i have seen your clanmates playing these maps in cla^^

[AndyDufresne]

aww.. dustbowl haters started this thread - It was discussed during development to start decaying territs as neutrals, but ended up decided against. You might get lucky, you might not. Part of the fun.

It is not one of my favorites, but I'll play a game on it from time to time---I don't mind the random luck of the decay---every once in a while at least.

I'll have to start playing a couple of the maps that have come out over the past couple of months...so I can form an opinion on those---and see how they do against maps I like and dislike...


--Andy

[chaosfactor]

Worst map on CC?

It has got to be the regional map that the mods use to get from the shrouded gossip site to the managerial club-house.

Give the morons compasses f'er Christ's sake

[lgoasklucyl]

aww.. dustbowl haters started this thread - It was discussed during development to start decaying territs as neutrals, but ended up decided against. You might get lucky, you might not. Part of the fun.

It is not one of my favorites, but I'll play a game on it from time to time---I don't mind the random luck of the decay---every once in a while at least.

I'll have to start playing a couple of the maps that have come out over the past couple of months...so I can form an opinion on those---and see how they do against maps I like and dislike...


--Andy

Also, the map is very winnable even with decay taking effect, I dropped 4 or 5 in the decay and still took the game playing it dubs...

Austerlitz is a little confusing connection wise, I'll give you guys that. A couple of times I wasn't sure how the connections worked, but having BOB 100% solves all of those problems, so it still remains a good addition imho.

[Georgerx7di]

Austerlitz... enough said... throw that on my heap of despised maps... wow...-0

One of two maps I haven't played yet.

I still say USA is the worst piece of crap ever made. Only one bonus comes into play. I hate that map. And yet I still see decent players playing it. Strange. I HATE USA MAP. It's worse than draknor, its worse than disc world, its worse than usa apoc. It's just the worst.

Classic, France and Canada (and i´m sure there are many more) have same bonus system, each 2 boni giving a +2 bonus, always one with 1 area border and 1 area with 2 borders. Oh, and i have seen your clanmates playing these maps in cla^^

On france the 1 area is part of the bonus, not like siam on classic where you have to go through it to get to where you can break. Anyway, without too much analysis, USA just seem extremely different from france or classic. I'm not sure what it is, but that second bonus never comes into play. It's always just whoever drops the top right, or gets better dice up there. I hate that map, its not the same.

p.s. I will come up with a more specific arguement when I get really bored, but I don't see USA as being anything like france map. USA map sucks balls.

[chaosfactor]

2nd Worst map on CC was...

The one Twill gave me when I spit-roasted Him and Andy in Canada back in 2006.

I followed it by star constellations, used a bit of Sagittarius combined with pythagorus and ended up in a kebap outlet slightly north of the Niagara falls.

Those were the days, cosmic conquered and Lacking the gaze.

[chaosfactor]

I agree on this front..

The worst maps on CC are these...

Battle For Iraq
Berlin 1961
D-Day Omaha Beach
Midkemdil
Operation Drug War

[Juan_Bottom]

I LOVE
Battle For Iraq
and
Austerlitz

I must be the only guy winning on Battle for Iraq.

But I am not a fan of
8 Thoughts
Crosswords
Forbidden City
Chinese Checkers
City Mogul
High Seas
King of the Mountains
Operation Drug War
U.S. Senate

I am not really a fan of tiny maps like Luxembourg or Doodle either... Or the traditionally recognized farming maps.

All of these are just because I don't like the way the games play. It's a matter of taste, which is what makes this site so great. There is a lot to choose from. Like most everyone else said, I appreciate what the mapmakers do, and I realize this site wouldn't stay relevant without them.

My favorite mapmakers are Cairnswk and Qwert. Just thought that I would throw that out there...

[The Neon Peon]

In my opinion, the worst map by far is Classic/Classic Shapes/Classic Art/World Cities. I personally don't think it should even be a part of the site.

Ever since I got to a decent rank I've been sick of how a ton of people are playing classic and only classic. I don't even know why I play check my inbox any more, the only things that ever get sent to me are invites for majors+ games on classic.

Firstly, the graphics have never been (until world cities) very good. Most maps for a long time have had much better graphics.
Secondly, the gameplay is nothing special.
Thirdly, if I wanted to play on the classic map, I'd get together with some of my friends. The only reason I play here/joined this site in the first place is to not have to play on that map.

[chaosfactor]

The 3rd best map Conquer ever made me was the one from the alcohol shop to the front-line

Get juiced in-it.

[the.killing.44]

The only reason I play here/joined this site in the first place is to not have to play on that map.

Then don't. I can safely say that a large majority of CC joined to play the Classic map because their friends don't play RISK (or they have no friends…?).

[Blitzaholic]

City Mogul is the worst because it is functionally a farming map.

Other cruddy maps include Draknor, USA Apocalypse, Oasis and more.

I rather enjoy these 3 maps: Draknor, USA Apocalypse, Oasis, but I do agree with you on city mogul being the worst, but do not forget pearl harbor due to it's unbalance.

[Hatchman]

A work of art is Dust Bowl!

[AAFitz]

I've found that any map that I play enough I start to like. I still can't stand usa. Seems so unbalanced. It just irritates me. A little iffy on usa apoc too. I'm kind of tired of fuedal. And I don't like big maps. world 2.1 is just annoying. Oh and Draknor, how irritating.

Maps I dislike playing

USA
USA Apoc
Fuedal
World 2.1
Great lakes
Draknor (worst)

world and great lakes are kind of the same. I don't think theres more skill in bigger maps like a lot of people do. I think its just more armies, more clicking, and a longer game. Playing world 2.1 just annoys me. Its the same as playing 3 games on classic.

So youre actually suggesting, that having more armies, more bonuses, more areas of attacks, more areas to fort, multiple more decisions to make, all directly affecting the outcome of the game doesnt mean more strategy...

What then is your definition of strategy....having very few options and picking the best one....but picking from more means less?

I understand where youre coming from, and believe me, many underestimate the map, and I think its because it does just appear to be a blow up of classic, but I assure you, I, and the many who play it often, some exclusively have learned otherwise, and essentially it comes down to scale, and percentages. Its size is geometrically bigger than many maps, it means that while your starting bonus is much bigger than other maps, its affect is often not similarly bigger. Usually, on a 1v1, player one gets 12, and player 2 gets 11....the dice then mean much more than these numbers, and more importantly, how they are used, where they are used, where they are forted, means much more than the numbers themselves. Many do become blowouts, but that is true of all maps...the difference here is, you have more options, more armies, and more time, to inch your way back from a bad round, or more importantly one bad roll...which is simply unrecoverable on a great many maps.

Really though, seeing is believing... only those that have played it enough come to realize this, and those that play it often, usually keep playing it. I honestly stumbled on world, simply because I liked playing it, and due to the fact that it does tend to work with my rather aggressive playing style anyways.

If nothing else, world at least gives you some time to have fun with it, even if you are losing, as opposed to a small map where you drop on one place every turn, and hope to get a good roll...often that place is predetermined, and you might as well be a computer playing, and might as well have flipped a coin to decide the outcome. That can happen on world too, just less often.

Fitz you think you can defeat me by overloading me with text. Ah, but I have a great plan to turn this against you. I will simply say, "I disagree", without reading all this. Then you will have to respond with 1,000 more words, and in this way you will eventually loose from exhaustion.

I will not loose argument where your entire premise and spelling are completely faulty.

There...14 words...and thank god I erased the "'e" from your.

[Qwert]

Juan_Bottom
My favorite mapmakers are Cairnswk and Qwert

thanks.

by The Neon Peon » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:20 am

In my opinion, the worst map by far is Classic/Classic Shapes/Classic Art/World Cities. I personally don't think it should even be a part of the site.

Agree-expecialy for Classic Art map,who after mine investigation(when i create Map Maker Index),i find that this map create CA and "elite" map maker,and they spend one day in creation of this map.When i say to hem that this is not correct to other map maker,they only laught on me,and show that they have power to do what every they want,and what is worst 6 map maker get medal for this one map. this map brake all rules in Map foundry,and only because they Mods(CA -cartographer assistant-man in blue)they can brake rules.All other map maker need to be kick in ass for 6 month to create map who need to pass all required thing-gameplay-graphic-xml-people support,but only this map no need to have this.
If you think that you can find topic-CLassic Art-then good luck ,because this not exist.
Classic Art map need to take same way(4-6 month)and you will get much better map,instead this map ,who is apsolutly unacepted.
If you create something in 24h-this can not be good.