Private Tournaments/Still Against the Rules?

by **owenshooter** on Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:08 pm

i was under the impression that private tournaments were against the rules, due to the wording of the Tournament Handbook

Tournament Handbook wrote:At least 50% of the spots available must be for open/public sign-ups, and not filled with special invitations.

However, if you check out the tournaments page, there is a private tournament going on right now amongst team CC...

Tournament Game: TeamCC Doubles League
http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?mode=join3&page=3

just wondering if this is a team building excercise or a test to see how well a fully private tournament can be run or if this is just another example of the rules not applying equally to all members of the CC Family... if this is the predecessor to private tournaments, what a cool addition to tournaments this is going to be! thank you...-0

p.s.-maybe this is to help the lower ranked mods learn how to play a little better so the mods have a better chance in whac-a-mod next time around!!!

by **The Fuzzy Pengui** on Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:16 pm

It's an exception to the rule because it's meant to be a team building exercise. Since we have so many new faces, what better way to get to know eachother and learn to work better as a team then to play games together as a team!

by **jefjef** on Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:20 pm

The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:It's an exception to the rule because it's meant to be a team building exercise. Since we have so many new faces, what better way to get to know eachother and learn to work better as a team then to play games together as a team!

I thought you all worked well as a team against us already.

GL and HF.

by **owenshooter** on Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:30 pm

The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:It's an exception to the rule because it's meant to be a team building exercise.

wait, some people don't speak penguin, let me translate, "we got busted!!!!" ha!!! still against the rules! perhaps if you had come out and stated this was going to happen before it occurred, this obvious and blatant infraction wouldn't be so epic or monumental... i fully expect the rule to be rewritten to allow the rest of us that would like to run private tournaments, the ability to run private tournaments... *cough*...-0

by **the.killing.44** on Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:50 pm

I'd like to get some friends together to make a private tournament as a team-building exercise. Allowed?

by **jefjef** on Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:53 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:I'd like to get some friends together to make a private tournament as a team-building exercise. Allowed?

It's an exception to the rule because it's meant to be a team building exercise.

by **targetman377** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:12 am

these people run the site and lack can decide if he want's to follow his rules this is not a democracy owen i think you need to learn that. after all this is HIS site not OUR site!!!! ok ownen.

by **Woodruff** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:12 am

targetman377 wrote:these people run the site and lack can decide if he want's to follow his rules this is not a democracy owen i think you need to learn that. after all this is HIS site not OUR site!!!! ok ownen.

I would personally LOVE the ability to run private tournaments. However, there is a custom in the military known as "Rank Has It's Privileges"...I believe that probably applies here, given that lackattack does have THE rank.

by **Optimus Prime** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:36 am

It is a team building exercise, that's about the whole of it folks. Sorry to disappoint. The big turtle himself wanted the team to quickly get some games in as teammates with each other to strengthen team unity and communication and so this is how I chose to proceed.

Private clan tournaments with some sort of privileges system is still on the table for in the future. How long in the future I can't say but it has not been refused outright.

by **stahrgazer** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:12 pm

The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:It's an exception to the rule because it's meant to be a team building exercise. Since we have so many new faces, what better way to get to know eachother and learn to work better as a team then to play games together as a team!

This would still work as a team-building exercise and comply with the rules you guys are supposed to enforce for everyone, if every opponent team was a non-mod team; then it would still be "50% open/not by special invitation."

by **jefjef** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:04 pm

Does everyone fail to see WHY it's a tourney and not just private games?

AWARD OF A TROPHY.

I believe thats why private tourneys are not allowed. So trophy's are not frivolous.

by **owenshooter** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:24 pm

targetman377 wrote:these people run the site and lack can decide if he want's to follow his rules this is not a democracy owen i think you need to learn that. after all this is HIS site not OUR site!!!! ok ownen.

i just think the rules should apply to all, especially those that enforce them... is that such a difficult concept to understand? don't make rules and unwritten rules which you enforce arbitrarily, when you have no intention of following them yourself. this is just another example of the rules not applying to everyone evenly. from continual flaming/baiting by mpjh within the forums to the mod squad running a private tournament, the rules are enforced arbitrarily...-0

p.s.-

Optimus Prime wrote:Private clan tournaments with some sort of privileges system is still on the table for in the future. How long in the future I can't say but it has not been refused outright.

this must be something the focus group is discussing..

by **jpcloet** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:47 pm

Wait a minute! I thought I was the first to break this rule with my private league. Aka, the clan league. I'm the innovator. :lol:

by **nagerous** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:54 pm

jpcloet wrote:Wait a minute! I thought I was the first to break this rule with my private league. Aka, the clan league. I'm the innovator.

It's hardly private, you even let water's fury in!

by **jpcloet** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:02 pm

I've blocked that out of my mind. I pretend they were never there. I am seeking therapy for that.

by **targetman377** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:05 pm

owenshooter wrote:
targetman377 wrote:these people run the site and lack can decide if he want's to follow his rules this is not a democracy owen i think you need to learn that. after all this is HIS site not OUR site!!!! ok ownen.

i just think the rules should apply to all, especially those that enforce them... is that such a difficult concept to understand? don't make rules and unwritten rules which you enforce arbitrarily, when you have no intention of following them yourself. this is just another example of the rules not applying to everyone evenly. from continual flaming/baiting by mpjh within the forums to the mod squad running a private tournament, the rules are enforced arbitrarily...-0

it's his site you don't have to understand why he does it i personal think its a great idea. and you should just be happy they let you play there games

by **owenshooter** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:11 pm

targetman377 wrote:it's his site you don't have to understand why he does it i personal think its a great idea. and you should just be happy they let you play there games

you really aren't making a very good counter argument here... and neither have they... the rule still stands, and should be amended or the private tournaments should be implemented as soon as possible. it is something people have wanted for a very long time, and it has not been allowed.-0

by **stahrgazer** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:07 pm

owenshooter wrote:
targetman377 wrote:it's his site you don't have to understand why he does it i personal think its a great idea. and you should just be happy they let you play there games

you really aren't making a very good counter argument here... and neither have they... the rule still stands, and should be amended or the private tournaments should be implemented as soon as possible. it is something people have wanted for a very long time, and it has not been allowed.-0

I'm not sure they want to rewrite a rule that says, "No private tournaments are allowed unless you're a moderator, because we don't have to follow the rules we enforce for everyone else." But it would be more honest if they rewrote it that way.

by **azezzo** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:48 pm

The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:It's an exception to the rule because it's meant to be a team building exercise. Since we have so many new faces, what better way to get to know each other and learn to work better as a team then to play games together as a team!

would be helpful as a team building exercise for clans as well

by **stahrgazer** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:18 pm

azezzo wrote:
The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:It's an exception to the rule because it's meant to be a team building exercise. Since we have so many new faces, what better way to get to know each other and learn to work better as a team then to play games together as a team!

would be helpful as a team building exercise for clans as well

Yup, that's exactly why clans want to do inter-clan tourneys.

by **slowreactor** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:43 pm

stahrgazer wrote:
azezzo wrote:
The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:It's an exception to the rule because it's meant to be a team building exercise. Since we have so many new faces, what better way to get to know each other and learn to work better as a team then to play games together as a team!

would be helpful as a team building exercise for clans as well

Yup, that's exactly why clans want to do inter-clan tourneys.

and you're ignoring clan league WHY?

by **Woodruff** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:02 pm

owenshooter wrote:
targetman377 wrote:it's his site you don't have to understand why he does it i personal think its a great idea. and you should just be happy they let you play there games

you really aren't making a very good counter argument here...

Did you see mine?

by **targetman377** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:09 pm

owenshooter wrote:
targetman377 wrote:it's his site you don't have to understand why he does it i personal think its a great idea. and you should just be happy they let you play there games

you really aren't making a very good counter argument here... and neither have they... the rule still stands, and should be amended or the private tournaments should be implemented as soon as possible. it is something people have wanted for a very long time, and it has not been allowed.-0

what part of that do you not get this is HIS site and if he want to follow the rules he can if he feels somthing will help this site by him choosing to break the rules then he can after all this is HIS site not yours you think of these rules as somthing everone has to follow.well that is your mistake its his thing and he can do what he wants with it ok

aka woodruff had a good point also

by **stahrgazer** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:05 pm

Big differences...

In the military, they make CLEAR in the rulebooks, what the privileges are; and those things that are forbidden to any troops remain forbidden to military leaders.

by **Night Strike** on Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:12 pm

stahrgazer wrote:
owenshooter wrote:
targetman377 wrote:it's his site you don't have to understand why he does it i personal think its a great idea. and you should just be happy they let you play there games

you really aren't making a very good counter argument here... and neither have they... the rule still stands, and should be amended or the private tournaments should be implemented as soon as possible. it is something people have wanted for a very long time, and it has not been allowed.-0

I'm not sure they want to rewrite a rule that says, "No private tournaments are allowed unless you're a moderator, because we don't have to follow the rules we enforce for everyone else." But it would be more honest if they rewrote it that way.

The moderators are here to enforce and facilitate the rules that the admins make. This decision was made by the admins, and since they make the rules, they get to decide when exceptions are made. The Tournament Directors aren't breaking the tournament privileges rules. I agree that private tournaments should be allowed, but I also know there are logistical reasons along with lack's own plans for the site that are standing in the way of them coming at this time.