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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby ender516 on Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:49 pm

I prefer the font you have to any of those suggested by fumandomuerte.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby natty dread on Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:37 am

Love the junk! Definitely a keeper.

You definitely need to change the font though... the o:s and s:s are just too disturbing. If you're going with any of the ones fumandomuerte posted, I suggest the first one.

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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby fumandomuerte on Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:30 am

natty_dread wrote:Love the junk! Definitely a keeper.

You definitely need to change the font though... the o:s and s:s are just too disturbing


Same concern for me ;)
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby Industrial Helix on Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:36 am

Might I suggest keeping the font and highlighting the o's and s's and lowering their font size a number or two? I think that should do it. I prefer the current font to the ones suggested.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby ender516 on Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:38 am

Industrial Helix wrote:Might I suggest keeping the font and highlighting the o's and s's and lowering their font size a number or two? I think that should do it. I prefer the current font to the ones suggested.

Another fix might be to mix bold and normal versions of the text.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby RedBaron0 on Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:50 pm

I'm not overly fond of either of the fonts, but I've tried another font I found at dafont, Korean 8-[ calligraphy

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I know I'll have to reposition some of the layers for better visibility, but this is just to take a look at the font on the map. I tried just changing the size a little for just the "S's" & "O's", didn't really change it. :|
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:49 am

I'm fine with the paragraph font, but the territory font is more blah.


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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby natty dread on Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:46 am

The territory font doesn't look Japanese at all...

it looks korean :D

But seriously... I'd keep looking with the fonts. The other texts still have the problem of some letters looking like they belong to another font...

Try one of these:

http://www.dafont.com/bonzai.font

http://www.dafont.com/seven-monkey-fury-b.font
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby 00iCon on Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:20 am

Does anyone else think the boat is a little too close to Sado?
Also any reason for the lowercase letters?
And IMO the verson 114 font is better.

Great job RB0, this has come a really long way. I personally have no preference over the parchment or previous design, though the best has been the one with the dancing Bender and inverted colours :D
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby Industrial Helix on Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:40 am

Not bad. You might want to erase the border where the words go over it to improve clarity, like yamagata for example. Also, the lack of capital letters kind of bugs me.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby RedBaron0 on Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:32 pm

That font has no uppercase, even when typing in uppercase the letters still come out lowercase. Looks like I'm looking for another font. I'll try a bunch see where it goes.

I've tried a lot of those Asian fonts from dafont, natty, they just don't come out very clear, either, to loopy/thin or to bold/blocky. I'm looking down a few other avenues.

I'll flip the junk around, erase some of the territory lines... move the circle a little bit perhaps.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby natty dread on Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:15 pm

I've tried a lot of those Asian fonts from dafont, natty, they just don't come out very clear, either, to loopy/thin or to bold/blocky.


Do you have anti-aliasing on when you put in the fonts?
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby RedBaron0 on Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:42 pm

Yeah, and I think some of these same fonts are coming out better with PS than in GIMP that really doesn't have anti-aliasing. Here's the map with a number of different fonts. Each bonus region is a different font, as well as the bonus map. The Sea of Japan is the Korean calligraphy font from before.

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Fonts:
Hokkaido: Yoshitoshi - 1001freefonts.com
Tohoku: Bonzai - dafont.com
Kanto: Last Ninja - dafont.com
Chubu: Domo Aregato - 2-free.net/free-fonts
Chugoku: AkashiMF - 1001freefonts.com
Shikoku: Katana - dafont.com
Kyushu: Chow Fun - 1001freefonts.com
Mini-Map: Font Shui - 1001freefonts.com
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby natty dread on Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:01 pm

I like the one in Kyushu best. The one in Chubu is nice as well.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby fumandomuerte on Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:39 pm

I like the way the Bonzai font looks. I played a bit with it getting results such as:
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I hope you define your font soon, you have plenty of options ;)
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby RedBaron0 on Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:55 pm

The faster the better... 8-[
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby porkenbeans on Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:33 pm

They are all pretty nice except Chugoku and Shikoru. My favorite would have to be Tahoku, followed by Chubu.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:42 pm

I like the Chubu font the best :)
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:46 pm

On an a slightly off topic note, I've heard the Bushido saying before, however I've always heard something else substituted for "kill" -- execute/destroy/etc.


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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby natty dread on Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:01 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:On an a slightly off topic note, I've heard the Bushido saying before, however I've always heard something else substituted for "kill" -- execute/destroy/etc.


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probably just a translation quirk.

The bushido would never disrespect their opponent in such a way as to consider killing them as "destroying" them. Animals get destroyed, or put to rest... Criminals get executed... Honoured opponents get killed.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:02 pm

Hm, I've seen a couple Japanese translations, done by Japanese, that used destroy, so I'm not sure it's just a quirk. But 'tis only a small point.


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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby RedBaron0 on Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:59 pm

The original quote was changed by request for better clarity.

It usually reads: Enemies you threaten, make armies. Enemies you bury, make graves.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby jefjef on Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:06 pm

Chubu.
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby ender516 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:47 am

RedBaron0 wrote:Yeah, and I think some of these same fonts are coming out better with PS than in GIMP that really doesn't have anti-aliasing. Here's the map with a number of different fonts. Each bonus region is a different font, as well as the bonus map. The Sea of Japan is the Korean calligraphy font from before.

show: The Map


Fonts:
Hokkaido: Yoshitoshi - 1001freefonts.com
Tohoku: Bonzai - dafont.com
Kanto: Last Ninja - dafont.com
Chubu: Domo Aregato - 2-free.net/free-fonts
Chugoku: AkashiMF - 1001freefonts.com
Shikoku: Katana - dafont.com
Kyushu: Chow Fun - 1001freefonts.com
Mini-Map: Font Shui - 1001freefonts.com

Here are my preferences:
  1. Kyushu: Chow Fun - 1001freefonts.com: just drew my eye in a favourable way right off the bat
  2. Hokkaido: Yoshitoshi - 1001freefonts.com: very clear
  3. Chubu: Domo Aregato - 2-free.net/free-fonts: has the right flavour, but I do NOT like that lower-case "a"
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics

Postby RedBaron0 on Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:50 am

Did a version with all Bonsai font. (Except non-territory text) Couple other little fixes too; clearer, stronger compass; changed "kill" back to "bury" in the Bushido quote, and took out the commas; and fixed up the top part of Kunashiri island.

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