"Things liberals are responsible for"

[jay_a2j]

Yes, I will continue to stand firmly within the scope of reality. I'm sorry that you CHOOSE to stand outside of it. Again, how sad for you, as a Christian. (I guess my suggestion that you read a bit of the Bible was a bit too much for you, wasn't it...)

Mr. Delusional:
Here are some images of political correctness, take notes:

Once again, you are proudly displaying for everyone that you clearly have a very warped sense of what political correctness is. How sad for you, because it only causes you to be less Christ-like.

So as you can see, political correctness is about OFFENDING PEOPLE. Or rather the futile attempt to try NOT to.

No, it really isn't.

Taken from Wiki:

Do you have an actual source? I mean, any source where I can discuss the various gay lovers of President Clinton isn't a very good source (yes, that's been there within the last year).

Dictionary.com:

politically correct
adj. Abbr. PC

1.

Of, relating to, or supporting broad social, political, and educational change, especially to redress historical injustices in matters such as race, class, gender, and sexual orientation.
2.

Being or perceived as being overconcerned with such change, often to the exclusion of other matters.



How many definitions would you like? None of which are going to mention "respect". Above "to redress historical injustices" and being "over concerned"..... "often TO THE EXCLUSION OF OTHER MATTERS".


Found a list for ya:


Insensitive Words & Phrases Possible Alternatives
Black sheep Outcast
"Guys" (when referring to a mixed group) Friends; folks; group
Oriental (when referring to people) Asian (using the specific nationality, i.e. Korean is even better, when possible)
Acting like wild Indians Out of control
Girls (when referring to coworkers) Women
Policemen/postman Police officer/mail carrier
Manhole Utility hole
Chairman Chair
Handicapped People with special needs; people who are physically/mentally challenged; people with disabilities
Retarded Developmentally challenged
Gifted children Advanced learners
Race Ethnicity or nationality (There is only one race--human)
Uneducated (when referring to adults) Lacking a formal education
No culture (when referring to parts of the U.S. where the opera and the theater are scarce or nonexistent) Lacking European culture
The little woman; the wife Your wife; his wife
"Don't go postal on me!" No alternative; someone in your audience may have relatives who are postal workers
Acting blonde No alternative
Old people Seniors; "Chronologically Advantaged"
Bitchy or "PMSing" Assertive
"White" lie Lie (Calling it white does not make it okay)
Flip chart Easel (Flip is a derogatory word referring to Filipinos)
wheel-chair bound A person who uses a wheel-chair
Jew down Negotiate
Half-breed Multi-ethnic
Blacklisted Banned
"Manning" the project Staffing the project




The other day I heard on TV that the terms waiter and waitress were not to be used but instead the term "waitron" should be used.

[Juan_Bottom]

I dunno what to give you on that Jay.
On one hand it's not liberals per say that come up with these, it's the people who are, or who deal with it daily. But! It's liberals saying "ok you can be called whatever you like" and then going with it.

[Woodruff]

Do you have an actual source? I mean, any source where I can discuss the various gay lovers of President Clinton isn't a very good source (yes, that's been there within the last year).

Dictionary.com:

politically correct
adj. Abbr. PC
1.
Of, relating to, or supporting broad social, political, and educational change, especially to redress historical injustices in matters such as race, class, gender, and sexual orientation.

Isn't it AWFUL that those DAMN LIBERALS want to CORRECT HISTORICAL INJUSTICES?!?!??! THOSE BASTARDS!

Insensitive Words & Phrases Possible Alternatives
Black sheep Outcast
"Guys" (when referring to a mixed group) Friends; folks; group
Oriental (when referring to people) Asian (using the specific nationality, i.e. Korean is even better, when possible)
Acting like wild Indians Out of control
Girls (when referring to coworkers) Women
Policemen/postman Police officer/mail carrier
Manhole Utility hole
Chairman Chair
Handicapped People with special needs; people who are physically/mentally challenged; people with disabilities
Retarded Developmentally challenged
Gifted children Advanced learners
Uneducated (when referring to adults) Lacking a formal education
No culture (when referring to parts of the U.S. where the opera and the theater are scarce or nonexistent) Lacking European culture
The little woman; the wife Your wife; his wife
Acting blonde No alternative
Old people Seniors; "Chronologically Advantaged"
Bitchy or "PMSing" Assertive
"White" lie Lie (Calling it white does not make it okay)
Flip chart Easel (Flip is a derogatory word referring to Filipinos)
wheel-chair bound A person who uses a wheel-chair
Jew down Negotiate
Half-breed Multi-ethnic
Blacklisted Banned
"Manning" the project Staffing the project

First of all, NOBODY is going to say "Chronologically Advantaged"...that doesn't even make sense. As well, NOBODY is going to seriously consider "Assertive" as an acceptable replacement for "Bitchy or PMSing" (where did you get this crap?).

However, other than those...in all seriousness...which ones do you have a problem with? Because I don't see anything there on the right that doesn't make perfect sense and IS RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS. Or do you somehow think the terms on the left ARE respectful of others? Is that it, Jay...you consider the term "Half-breed" to be respectful?

You're not really a Christian, are you? You just claim that in an attempt to make them look bad, right? Well...well done on that count.

[Snorri1234]

Uneducated (when referring to adults) Lacking a formal education

PC GOAN MAAAD!!!!!!112

[jay_a2j]

First of all, NOBODY is going to say "Chronologically Advantaged"...that doesn't even make sense. As well, NOBODY is going to seriously consider "Assertive" as an acceptable replacement for "Bitchy or PMSing" (where did you get this crap?).

However, other than those...in all seriousness...which ones do you have a problem with? Because I don't see anything there on the right that doesn't make perfect sense and IS RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS. Or do you somehow think the terms on the left ARE respectful of others? Is that it, Jay...you consider the term "Half-breed" to be respectful?

You're not really a Christian, are you? You just claim that in an attempt to make them look bad, right? Well...well done on that count.

Still don't get it? I don't use the term "half-breed". I use the term, "Tom", "Jack" or whatever the person's name is whom I am referring. I don't find the need to define people based on ethnicity. To use the term, "multi-cultural" does nothing to stamp out the sick disease known as racism. I'm white yet "multi-cultural" having decedents from Germany, England and France. But no one calls me "multi-cultural", why not? Cause my skin doesn't have a tinge of color to it? You can keep your racist half-ass attempt at trying to portray yourself as "cultured" and "non offensive" by being PC, but I for one can see through the scam. We have had words to describe people for EVER. Now the PC patrol wants to come in and re-describe everything for a more "tolerant" world. I want to go back to a world where we can call a janitor a janitor, not a "custodial engineer" for fear of hurting his or her feelings! The world has become pussified thanks to liberalism and the PC mob. Grow a set.

[Woodruff]

Still don't get it? I don't use the term "half-breed". I use the term, "Tom", "Jack" or whatever the person's name is whom I am referring.

If you don't use the term, then why are you whining about not being able to use the term? Why do you care?

I don't find the need to define people based on ethnicity.

If you don't find the need to define people based on ethnicity, then why are you whining about not being able to use the term? Why do you care?

To use the term, "multi-cultural" does nothing to stamp out the sick disease known as racism.

Sure, I absolutely agree with that. But what it DOES do is allow people to think in different terms...terms which AREN'T immediately THOUGHT OF as racist terms...and by doing so, give the opportunity for honest dialogue to begin where previously it wouldn't because people were too busy either trying to offend others or feeling offended by others.

I'm white yet "multi-cultural" having decedents from Germany, England and France. But no one calls me "multi-cultural", why not?

I honestly DON'T know why not, because you are. Your question doesn't have relevance to me since anyone I know who would use the term multi-cultural would consider you to be.

You can keep your racist half-ass attempt at trying to portray yourself as "cultured" and "non offensive" by being PC, but I for one can see through the scam. We have had words to describe people for EVER.

What scam is that, Jay? What scam is it where you believe that I am racist? I'd REALLY like an HONEST answer to this, because I can't see any possible way that I've come across as racist. Go ahead Jay...please reveal further the inner workings of YOUR disease for us.

Now the PC patrol wants to come in and re-describe everything for a more "tolerant" world. I want to go back to a world where we can call a janitor a janitor, not a "custodial engineer" for fear of hurting his or her feelings! The world has become pussified thanks to liberalism and the PC mob. Grow a set.

You belong to the KKK, don't you Jay?

[jay_a2j]

If you don't use the term, then why are you whining about not being able to use the term? Why do you care?



If you don't find the need to define people based on ethnicity, then why are you whining about not being able to use the term? Why do you care?


Sure, I absolutely agree with that. But what it DOES do is allow people to think in different terms...terms which AREN'T immediately THOUGHT OF as racist terms...and by doing so, give the opportunity for honest dialogue to begin where previously it wouldn't because people were too busy either trying to offend others or feeling offended by others.


I honestly DON'T know why not, because you are. Your question doesn't have relevance to me since anyone I know who would use the term multi-cultural would consider you to be.



What scam is that, Jay? What scam is it where you believe that I am racist? I'd REALLY like an HONEST answer to this, because I can't see any possible way that I've come across as racist. Go ahead Jay...please reveal further the inner workings of YOUR disease for us.


You belong to the KKK, don't you Jay?

This is why Liberalism is a mental disorder as told by Michael Savage in his book by the same name. It is also why this is a waste of time... see Arguing With Idiots by Glen Beck. Do us both a favor, add me to your ignore list like you did at battleforces.com. You have nothing of substance to say and when you lose at a game you take your ball and go home. So, take the ball and go home!

[Baron Von PWN]

Still don't get it? I don't use the term "half-breed". I use the term, "Tom", "Jack" or whatever the person's name is whom I am referring. I don't find the need to define people based on ethnicity. To use the term, "multi-cultural" does nothing to stamp out the sick disease known as racism. I'm white yet "multi-cultural" having decedents from Germany, England and France. But no one calls me "multi-cultural", why not? Cause my skin doesn't have a tinge of color to it? You can keep your racist half-ass attempt at trying to portray yourself as "cultured" and "non offensive" by being PC, but I for one can see through the scam. We have had words to describe people for EVER. Now the PC patrol wants to come in and re-describe everything for a more "tolerant" world. I want to go back to a world where we can call a janitor a janitor, not a "custodial engineer" for fear of hurting his or her feelings! The world has become pussified thanks to liberalism and the PC mob. Grow a set.

Why doese no one call you multi-cultural? because Multi-culturalism isin't about ethnicity. It's about being accepting of other cultures and not pressuring them to conform to the wider native culture.

[Aradhus]

First of all, NOBODY is going to say "Chronologically Advantaged"...that doesn't even make sense. As well, NOBODY is going to seriously consider "Assertive" as an acceptable replacement for "Bitchy or PMSing" (where did you get this crap?).

However, other than those...in all seriousness...which ones do you have a problem with? Because I don't see anything there on the right that doesn't make perfect sense and IS RESPECTFUL OF OTHERS. Or do you somehow think the terms on the left ARE respectful of others? Is that it, Jay...you consider the term "Half-breed" to be respectful?

You're not really a Christian, are you? You just claim that in an attempt to make them look bad, right? Well...well done on that count.

Still don't get it? I don't use the term "half-breed". I use the term, "Tom", "Jack" or whatever the person's name is whom I am referring. I don't find the need to define people based on ethnicity. To use the term, "multi-cultural" does nothing to stamp out the sick disease known as racism. I'm white yet "multi-cultural" having decedents from Germany, England and France. But no one calls me "multi-cultural", why not? Cause my skin doesn't have a tinge of color to it? You can keep your racist half-ass attempt at trying to portray yourself as "cultured" and "non offensive" by being PC, but I for one can see through the scam. We have had words to describe people for EVER. Now the PC patrol wants to come in and re-describe everything for a more "tolerant" world. I want to go back to a world where we can call a janitor a janitor, not a "custodial engineer" for fear of hurting his or her feelings! The world has become pussified thanks to liberalism and the PC mob. Grow a set.

You're the biggest hypcrite under the sun. You're just a bigot Jay, who routinely picks on people for being different. Gays, liberals, etc. Your little rant here sounds like nothing more than a child enraged that the grownups are using words that you don't understand. Perfectly represented in your complete lack of understanding of what the word multicultural means. My grandfather is Irish, but I don't have a single thing about me, nor do I do anything, that is representative of the Irish culture. How could that possibly mean I'm multicultural, just because my grandfather is Irish, even though I don't represent a single thing from the Irish culture? The answer is, quite clearly it doesn't. Multicultural has nothing to do with where my ascendants are from.

[hecter]

My city has a "multi-cultural festival" every year, and it's got a big bunch of foods vendors as well as vendors selling merchandiser among other things. You see just as many Greek and German and Italian vendors as you do Chinese and Indian and African vendors. As it's been stated, multiculturalism it has nothing at all to do with the colour of your skin and everything to do with accepting and getting involved with cultures that differ from your own.

[Woodruff]

If you don't use the term, then why are you whining about not being able to use the term? Why do you care?



If you don't find the need to define people based on ethnicity, then why are you whining about not being able to use the term? Why do you care?


Sure, I absolutely agree with that. But what it DOES do is allow people to think in different terms...terms which AREN'T immediately THOUGHT OF as racist terms...and by doing so, give the opportunity for honest dialogue to begin where previously it wouldn't because people were too busy either trying to offend others or feeling offended by others.


I honestly DON'T know why not, because you are. Your question doesn't have relevance to me since anyone I know who would use the term multi-cultural would consider you to be.



What scam is that, Jay? What scam is it where you believe that I am racist? I'd REALLY like an HONEST answer to this, because I can't see any possible way that I've come across as racist. Go ahead Jay...please reveal further the inner workings of YOUR disease for us.


You belong to the KKK, don't you Jay?

This is why Liberalism is a mental disorder as told by Michael Savage in his book by the same name. It is also why this is a waste of time... see Arguing With Idiots by Glen Beck. Do us both a favor, add me to your ignore list like you did at battleforces.com. You have nothing of substance to say and when you lose at a game you take your ball and go home. So, take the ball and go home!

You are truly an embarrassment to your religion (a religion I respect a great deal). And you seem to revel in that fact. How sad.

Though in noticing that you avoided answering my question, I guess the answer becomes apparent. Even more sad.

[Phatscotty]

Liberals are responsible for co-opting revolution in the 1930s and preventing America from becoming a truely free country.

Nice one

Porky

The North was perfectly happy with the slave situation in the South.

Very Crazy statement.

[porkenbeans]

Liberals are responsible for co-opting revolution in the 1930s and preventing America from becoming a truely free country.

Nice one

Porky

The North was perfectly happy with the slave situation in the South.

Very Crazy statement.

After reading numerous posts by you, I have to wonder, How can someone so mentally challenged, achieve such a high rank.

[pimpdave]

You belong to the KKK, don't you Jay?

No, he just works as a prison guard, at least, according to him, in posts in the past.

[Phatscotty]

Liberals are responsible for co-opting revolution in the 1930s and preventing America from becoming a truely free country.

Nice one

Porky

The North was perfectly happy with the slave situation in the South.

Very Crazy statement.

After reading numerous posts by you, I have to wonder, How can someone so mentally challenged, achieve such a high rank.

wait wait wait, YOU are telling ME, that YOU speak for all the people in the North USA in 1850-60's???? and If I disagree, I am mentally challenged.....
Let me read this again....
yeah ok we're done on this

name-calling is a losers position

[Frigidus]

Liberals are responsible for co-opting revolution in the 1930s and preventing America from becoming a truely free country.

Nice one

Porky

The North was perfectly happy with the slave situation in the South.

Very Crazy statement.

After reading numerous posts by you, I have to wonder, How can someone so mentally challenged, achieve such a high rank.

wait wait wait, YOU are telling ME, that YOU speak for all the people in the North USA in 1850-60's???? and If I disagree, I am mentally challenged.....
Let me read this again....
yeah ok we're done on this

name-calling is a losers position

Hm...I'm on PhatScotty's side in a debate...this is concerning. Still, for real though, I vote that we add a ConquerClub amendment to Godwin's Law. Along with comparing your opponents to Hitler, using your opponent's rank as part of your argument is an instant loss.

[Phatscotty]

Liberals are responsible for co-opting revolution in the 1930s and preventing America from becoming a truely free country.

Nice one

Porky

The North was perfectly happy with the slave situation in the South.

Very Crazy statement.

After reading numerous posts by you, I have to wonder, How can someone so mentally challenged, achieve such a high rank.

wait wait wait, YOU are telling ME, that YOU speak for all the people in the North USA in 1850-60's???? and If I disagree, I am mentally challenged.....
Let me read this again....
yeah ok we're done on this

name-calling is a losers position

Hm...I'm on PhatScotty's side in a debate...this is concerning. Still, for real though, I vote that we add a ConquerClub amendment to Godwin's Law. Along with comparing your opponents to Hitler, using your opponent's rank as part of your argument is an instant loss.

the funny thing is, I agree with almost everything porky has said, except for when it comes to racism, which I can only assume is a personal twist on porky's part.

[Frigidus]

Hm...I'm on PhatScotty's side in a debate...this is concerning. Still, for real though, I vote that we add a ConquerClub amendment to Godwin's Law. Along with comparing your opponents to Hitler, using your opponent's rank as part of your argument is an instant loss.

the funny thing is, I agree with almost everything porky has said, except for when it comes to racism, which I can only assume is a personal twist on porky's part.

OK, that's a relief, I was worried we had common ground.

[Phatscotty]

Hm...I'm on PhatScotty's side in a debate...this is concerning. Still, for real though, I vote that we add a ConquerClub amendment to Godwin's Law. Along with comparing your opponents to Hitler, using your opponent's rank as part of your argument is an instant loss.

the funny thing is, I agree with almost everything porky has said, except for when it comes to racism, which I can only assume is a personal twist on porky's part.

OK, that's a relief, I was worried we had common ground.

lol, wait, i admit i didnt read everything, but I agreed with his insights into certain aspects usually glossed over, but whatev

[Snorri1234]

Still don't get it?

IT IS PC GOAN MADZS!!!!

[Woodruff]

You belong to the KKK, don't you Jay?

No, he just works as a prison guard, at least, according to him, in posts in the past.

That definitely fits the picture I've formed of what he's like.

[porkenbeans]

Slavery was alive and well for close to 100 years at the time of the Civil War. The slave trade itself was monopolized by mostly Northerners, and the majority of them were Jewish businessmen. I know this sounds like an antisemitic statement, but it is the truth.

The politicians in DC, and before that, in Philly, had been kicking the ball on Slavery for decades. The intellectuals among them would from time to time, raise the issue. But the votes were just never there. Like I said before, money talks. The Southern agriculture industry with the help of an enormous untapped breadbasket source, coupled with free labor, was just about the most profitable industry in the world, at the time. Everyone involved in this industry were the "Fat cats" of their time. They were not just well off, they were disgustingly, filthy rich. If they had not become so greedy, and just kept to the program, Slavery would have seen many more decades of continued prosperity for all involved, except the slaves that is.

But as it happened,The Southern Fat cats became so powerful, that when the Northern Politicians yet again, jacked up their taxes on tobacco and cotton, just decided that they did NOT need them anymore. They were the minority in Congress, and could NOT successfully fight These exorbitant and ever increasing taxes. They decided just like their Teabag forefathers did, To separate from the government, that, in their eyes were imposing an unfair and out of control dominance over them.

They did NOT succeed because The North demanded an end to Slavery.

It was a matter of economics. Just like the Revolutionary war.

It was only after the South cut them out, that the North went to war. They new very well that the western expansion of the US would have fallen into the laps of the Southerners, and they would very soon, become the dominant power on the continent.

This idea did NOT set well with them at all. They would rather see the South with its lucrative industry burned to the ground, before they would allow this to happen.

They were well on their way of wiping out the Native Americans, and The Mexicans were next on the agenda. These people were NOT the idealistic saviors of the "lesser races".

On the contrary, They were poised to run off, or kill any non-white that stood in their way of conquering all the territory from sea to shinning sea.

...And that is today's "real" history lesson.

[BigBallinStalin]

I'm white yet "multi-cultural" having decedents from Germany, England and France. But no one calls me "multi-cultural", why not? Cause my skin doesn't have a tinge of color to it?

Do you speak German or French? Can you reasonable claim that you actually represent those cultures in any significant or at least somewhat significant degree? You can't, so no one's really going to call you multi-cultural; you're just American. Please use a different example.

You can keep your racist half-ass attempt at trying to portray yourself as "cultured" and "non offensive" by being PC, but I for one can see through the scam. We have had words to describe people for EVER. Now the PC patrol wants to come in and re-describe everything for a more "tolerant" world. I want to go back to a world where we can call a janitor a janitor, not a "custodial engineer" for fear of hurting his or her feelings! The world has become pussified thanks to liberalism and the PC mob. Grow a set.

Actually PC can be pretty funny if you go about it with the right sense of humor. I was kidding around with this janitor at college awhile back about being called a janitor or a custodial engineer, and he was wondering since when did he get an engineering degree.

Sure, there's a few examples where PC can be ridiculous which is why the majority of the people will not use those words. You'll probably see PC-speak in official documents in a formal business setting, but the people will nearly always still speak the same. Labelling and discouraging the use of sexist and racist phrases in turn discourages negative preconceptions, subconscious and conscious, which isn't a bad thing (like Indians gone crazy, or manning a project). But, as long as you can joke it off, it's not a big deal.

And it's not like the "PC patrol" will punish you by raping your mother while forcing you to watch, if you don't play the game. You're still free to be a racist, sexist prick, so there's no need to whine and moan about something that hardly limits your speech. You can still call a waiter a waiter, and an African-American a black, and it still depends on the situation and what meaning you carry with your words--with or without PC.

[porkenbeans]

@Bigball,
Smart man.

[Timminz]

...And that is today's "real" history lesson.

Ye-ah Boy-eeee!!

Real history don't need no motherfuckin' sources!