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Does God exist?

 
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Postby vtmarik on Sat May 27, 2006 1:01 am

jay_a2j wrote:It can't be "fact checked"! No one on here knows who you really are! Give me you real name , address and social security number and I'll "fact check"! I can't take much more of this ignorance!


I am not accusing you of anything...you have given testimony to your lie!
If I said I was an auto mechanic but did not know what an engine was...YOU COULD DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSION!


You're one to talk about ignorance. Here, these may not be my official pronunciamentos from the ULC, but they are valid to my own beliefs and are therefore valid to all beliefs:

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EDIT: Oh and this thread has officially reached 200 replies. Hooray for Bicentennial repliness!
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Postby jay_a2j on Sat May 27, 2006 1:07 am

Give me a break....I think I will start a new poll...Who thinks vtmarik is an ordained minister? Take into consideration he spells Revalation with an "S". That he bashes religion (christianity predominently) and posted some foolish picture as to "validate" his claim.
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Postby vtmarik on Sat May 27, 2006 1:09 am

jay_a2j wrote:Give me a break....I think I will start a new poll...Who thinks vtmarik is an ordained minister? Take into consideration he spells Revalation with an "S". That he bashes religion (christianity predominently) and posted some foolish picture as to "validate" his claim.


Nononononononno! I did not say that this was my validation you person of questionable intelligence.

I merely said that this document (my official divine excuse) was valid. I didn't say that it was my credentials for my ministry. Those should arrive in a couple of weeks.

To quote the Reverend Dr. Ivan Stang

Why are they mockers? Why do they mock?

That's a perfectly reasonable question... FROM A DUMBASS!

The reason SubGenii mock is because humor is the best weapon of the marginalized. The reason most SubGenii mock Christianity is because most come from a predominantly Christian background and so mock what they know best. If you hang out with a SubGenius long enough you will eventually hear them mock Buddhism, Satanism, Taoism, and pretty much every other -ism out there.
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Postby jay_a2j on Sat May 27, 2006 1:13 am

Well I hope they spell your name right.... and not put an S at the end if one doesn't belong there. (Ya see why I find your claim lacking credibility?) As if my previous post didn't say it all.



Sub Genii???? what??? just caught that. Must be some kind of cult. So I guess you could be an Ordained minister of some religion other than Christianity! My bad.
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Postby vtmarik on Sat May 27, 2006 1:15 am

jay_a2j wrote:Well I hope they spell your name right.... and not put an S at the end if one doesn't belong there. (Ya see why I find your claim lacking credibility?) As if my previous post didn't say it all.


Ah, so I'm wrong about the title of Revelation. And that makes completely wrong about everything?

Wow. That's makes sense. Yep. Not pointless hypercorrection done without irony at all. That's one airtight little statement there Jay. Yep.
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Postby jay_a2j on Sat May 27, 2006 1:17 am

Sub Genii???? what??? just caught that. Must be some kind of cult. So I guess you could be an Ordained minister of some religion other than Christianity! My bad.
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Postby vtmarik on Sat May 27, 2006 1:23 am

jay_a2j wrote:Sub Genii???? what??? just caught that. Must be some kind of cult. So I guess you could be an Ordained minister of some religion other than Christianity! My bad.


Haha! I knew it! I knew the moment I brought up the Church of the SubGenius you'd immediately go the cult route! You are so predictable Jay!

The Church of the SubGenius is not a cult. Technically, it's not even a religion. It's an 'Inc.," The Church of the SubGenius... Inc.

It's a group of likeminded individuals who have come together to slack off and be general gadflies to people like yourself.

*dances a small dance of victory* See? Notice how you immediately attacked the "religion" and not the point? That's called an ad hominem arguement and is also a logical fallacy, much like the strawman as you pointed out earlier in the argument.

This whole thread stopped being a debate a long time ago. It's just a straight up cage fight now! And I'm the one with the steel chair.
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Postby howie on Sat May 27, 2006 2:38 am

Logic dictates this will never end.
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Postby Romber on Sat May 27, 2006 7:03 am

vtmarik wrote:It would be stupid to claim that there isn't a God or Gods or Goddesses given the extremely limited amount information that science has unlocked.

So yes, I believe that it is entirely possible that a God, or multiple Gods, do exist. I choose not to believe in any specific Pantheon or single God because that's far too limiting. And that wouldn't be fair to any other potential God(s) in the realm of Time and Space.

Spiritual Equality! I support it!


How can you be fine being an ordained minister, yet you dont believe God is the only one?
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Postby Pedronicus on Sat May 27, 2006 8:47 am

if god existed, he'd give me a break with these poxy dice.
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Postby jay_a2j on Sat May 27, 2006 9:39 am

howie wrote:Logic dictates this will never end.






LOL ..... you might have something there! Actually marik is starting to bore me. He can't argue with himself... or can he?
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Postby jay_a2j on Sat May 27, 2006 9:46 am

Romber wrote:
vtmarik wrote:It would be stupid to claim that there isn't a God or Gods or Goddesses given the extremely limited amount information that science has unlocked.

So yes, I believe that it is entirely possible that a God, or multiple Gods, do exist. I choose not to believe in any specific Pantheon or single God because that's far too limiting. And that wouldn't be fair to any other potential God(s) in the realm of Time and Space.

Spiritual Equality! I support it!


How can you be fine being an ordained minister, yet you dont believe God is the only one?



Its not a church...... marik belongs to an anti-church. Of which he is an ordained minister. ( I know it sounds like a group of immature atheists who claim to know more religion then those who have faith)

"He who is not for me is against me"


He's just confused!
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Postby vtmarik on Sat May 27, 2006 11:10 am

jay_a2j wrote:
Romber wrote:How can you be fine being an ordained minister, yet you dont believe God is the only one?



Its not a church...... marik belongs to an anti-church. Of which he is an ordained minister. ( I know it sounds like a group of immature atheists who claim to know more religion then those who have faith)

"He who is not for me is against me"


He's just confused!


Well, now that I've brought up the SubGenii (and that you automatically assume that my ministership is restricted to that group alone) I guess i'm done here.

So, you two can go off and abuse your kids, hate gays, and annoy people with your sanctimonious Bible thumping all in the name of God. Have fun.

And when you reach the end of your trek, i'll be in paradise waiting for you, laughing and giggling about how wrong you really were.

I'm done trying to convert you. And no matter how hard you shall try you shall never convert me because unlike some people I am quite comfortable with both the concepts of God and NoGod.

So bye. I gotta go take Schrodinger's Cat for a flea bath.
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Postby jay_a2j on Sat May 27, 2006 11:26 am

vtmarik wrote:
Well, now that I've brought up the SubGenii (and that you automatically assume that my ministership is restricted to that group alone) I guess i'm done here.

So, you two can go off and abuse your kids, hate gays, and annoy people with your sanctimonious Bible thumping all in the name of God. Have fun.

And when you reach the end of your trek, i'll be in paradise waiting for you, laughing and giggling about how wrong you really were.

I'm done trying to convert you. And no matter how hard you shall try you shall never convert me because unlike some people I am quite comfortable with both the concepts of God and NoGod.

So bye. I gotta go take Schrodinger's Cat for a flea bath.


For the record...I don't beat my kids, don't hate gays and only thump my Bible if there's a good tune on the radio.
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Postby vtmarik on Sat May 27, 2006 11:36 am

jay_a2j wrote:For the record...I don't beat my kids, don't hate gays and only thump my Bible if there's a good tune on the radio.


Then I offer a complete retraction of that statement and apologize.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Sat May 27, 2006 11:57 am

Well, **rubs his hands together** now that is done, who wants to discuss the benefits and drawbacks of Satanism? ;)


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Postby thegrimsleeper on Sat May 27, 2006 12:51 pm

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Postby Haydena on Sat May 27, 2006 1:09 pm

grim you old satansist!!!
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Postby vtmarik on Sat May 27, 2006 2:23 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Well, **rubs his hands together** now that is done, who wants to discuss the benefits and drawbacks of Satanism? ;)


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Real LaVey Satanism or the Fake Crowley-esque Satanism?
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Postby thegrimsleeper on Sat May 27, 2006 2:26 pm

Oh please let it be LaVey!!! That man has got the right idea... at least he's got it better than Crowley.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Sat May 27, 2006 3:21 pm

Of course the Anton Szandor LaVey-->Egan Satanism. I remember when a few of my friends dabbled in it. It was sure 'cool as hell'. ;-)


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Postby Machiavelli on Sat May 27, 2006 4:56 pm

Lets argue over who won that whole argument. :lol:
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Postby lilwdlnddude on Tue May 30, 2006 12:56 pm

who did win?? i wasnt here for the past 10 pages....
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Postby howie on Tue May 30, 2006 1:37 pm

Machiavelli wrote:Lets argue over who won that whole argument. :lol:

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Postby morph on Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:53 pm

question, ok so life cannot come from non-life, where did god come from, is he/she/it just energy, and if that is so, all a bolt of lighting is energy, in fact it has so much energy that it is hotter then our suns surface when it strikes, but that is besides the point, all a bolt of lighitng has to do it hit "ooze" and boom some life energy is given to "ooze" and there you go evolution starts...

now logic dictates that this was moronic, your bias was not left at the door and also logic dictates i did this for the hell of it and for a post count lol
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