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Ronaldinho wrote:Only thing is, who will she be now? Everyone knows she has 2 VERY different sides, questions will be asked, even if she was given a chance to return, i believe that CS wont be that person, she will need to start over, which will be very differcult as no doubt stuff will get said/spilled and then it will come to this again. I think its over for her, no matter how much she tries she will always be banned. End of.
laddida wrote:Ronaldinho wrote:Only thing is, who will she be now? Everyone knows she has 2 VERY different sides, questions will be asked, even if she was given a chance to return, i believe that CS wont be that person, she will need to start over, which will be very differcult as no doubt stuff will get said/spilled and then it will come to this again. I think its over for her, no matter how much she tries she will always be banned. End of.
she can come back as a man?
Ronaldinho wrote:Only thing is, who will she be now? Everyone knows she has 2 VERY different sides, questions will be asked, even if she was given a chance to return, i believe that CS wont be that person, she will need to start over, which will be very differcult as no doubt stuff will get said/spilled and then it will come to this again. I think its over for her, no matter how much she tries she will always be banned. End of.
hwhrhett wrote:except that creating the new account IS against the rules.. so saying she wasnt breaking any is a silly arguement. why is it that everybody in this thread seems to think that not being able to create multiple accounts is an unneccessary rule? you cant honestly think cc would be a better place if people were allowed to have multis... and scarlet must have known that this would happen eventually. secrets cant be kept secret forever, it was inevitable.
InsomniaRed wrote:jefjef wrote:Well what I understand is players are checked before allowed to be an SoC teacher.
I also understand that Capt Scar had tried for some time to become a MOD but felt she didn't fit in the sweet "16" scheme of things.
Hmmmmm. Something strange happened and nothing but lots and lots of silence.
You can be assured that everything was and is handled very carefully. If someone is website banned and stripped of their premium membership you can definitely deduce that it was for a justifiable and concrete reason. I can tell you for a fact that those aren't just thrown around like candy ;)
This member was obviously breaking the rules on Conquer Club and the punishment that was required to deal with this abuse was a website ban.
You do the math, I know you guys know the rules as well as the punishments.
Mr. Squirrel wrote:pmchugh wrote:BUMP- one more fool needed
One fool reporting for duty!
Juan_Bottom wrote:
My argument, and it's what the others have said but failed to communicate: what is a multi? Area all multis the same? Do they all deserve to be punished the same?
I just don't see all multis as equal. This isn't black and white, there are a lot of grey areas here.
I look at a multi (bad) as someone who creates other accounts to cheat at the game or with the goal of causing trouble. There are others (good) who just want to live and let live. Not only was Scarlet not hurting anyone, she was improving the site. Does that mean she is forgiven her trespasses? No, but neither does it mean that she is a malicious person with evil intentions. Those people actually get a second chance to buy back in. AND! I have yet to see a post where someone thought Scarlet was a destructive member. Creating a new account and starting over was not a mistake for her.
Isn't there a way to take that into account if it hasn't been already? And also to consider the fact that we have a new scale for punishments? I'm not saying we should re-instate her, because I don't know enough about this anyway. Plus Scarlet's rep is destroyed. But were there some peace made over this and I were in charge I would have her make another account.
And I don't think that I need to remind everyone, but most people who are banned here just make a new account anyway. This isn't new or rare. I won't mind saying that if I were banned somehow I would do the same.
Scarlet did nothing wrong actually. Her crime was existing here before.
That said, I was also good friends with Delia.
I wasn't here when she was banned, and I haven't seen squat about it save conjecture. It doesn't seem like anyone here really knows what happened, and the witnesses are all silent. Furthermore while the BPBs are all great people on their own, there is just something funny about messing with the clan. It is probably because they all can take it. So that is excused and encouraged actually.
All of my love Delia.
colton24 wrote:InsomniaRed wrote:jefjef wrote:Well what I understand is players are checked before allowed to be an SoC teacher.
I also understand that Capt Scar had tried for some time to become a MOD but felt she didn't fit in the sweet "16" scheme of things.
Hmmmmm. Something strange happened and nothing but lots and lots of silence.
You can be assured that everything was and is handled very carefully. If someone is website banned and stripped of their premium membership you can definitely deduce that it was for a justifiable and concrete reason. I can tell you for a fact that those aren't just thrown around like candy ;)
This member was obviously breaking the rules on Conquer Club and the punishment that was required to deal with this abuse was a website ban.
You do the math, I know you guys know the rules as well as the punishments.
Jefjef kicked by KS which was wrong and lose jefjef a lotta points
Kanabellas was banned, striped, and kicked from many usergroups and was then cleared almost causing Kanabellas to retire from CC
neanderpaul14 wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:
My argument, and it's what the others have said but failed to communicate: what is a multi? Area all multis the same? Do they all deserve to be punished the same?
I just don't see all multis as equal. This isn't black and white, there are a lot of grey areas here.
I look at a multi (bad) as someone who creates other accounts to cheat at the game or with the goal of causing trouble. There are others (good) who just want to live and let live. Not only was Scarlet not hurting anyone, she was improving the site. Does that mean she is forgiven her trespasses? No, but neither does it mean that she is a malicious person with evil intentions. Those people actually get a second chance to buy back in. AND! I have yet to see a post where someone thought Scarlet was a destructive member. Creating a new account and starting over was not a mistake for her.
Isn't there a way to take that into account if it hasn't been already? And also to consider the fact that we have a new scale for punishments? I'm not saying we should re-instate her, because I don't know enough about this anyway. Plus Scarlet's rep is destroyed. But were there some peace made over this and I were in charge I would have her make another account.
And I don't think that I need to remind everyone, but most people who are banned here just make a new account anyway. This isn't new or rare. I won't mind saying that if I were banned somehow I would do the same.
Scarlet did nothing wrong actually. Her crime was existing here before.
That said, I was also good friends with Delia.
I wasn't here when she was banned, and I haven't seen squat about it save conjecture. It doesn't seem like anyone here really knows what happened, and the witnesses are all silent. Furthermore while the BPBs are all great people on their own, there is just something funny about messing with the clan. It is probably because they all can take it. So that is excused and encouraged actually.
All of my love Delia.
Thank you Juan.
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Mr. Squirrel wrote:pmchugh wrote:BUMP- one more fool needed
One fool reporting for duty!
colton24 wrote:InsomniaRed wrote:jefjef wrote:Well what I understand is players are checked before allowed to be an SoC teacher.
I also understand that Capt Scar had tried for some time to become a MOD but felt she didn't fit in the sweet "16" scheme of things.
Hmmmmm. Something strange happened and nothing but lots and lots of silence.
You can be assured that everything was and is handled very carefully. If someone is website banned and stripped of their premium membership you can definitely deduce that it was for a justifiable and concrete reason. I can tell you for a fact that those aren't just thrown around like candy ;)
This member was obviously breaking the rules on Conquer Club and the punishment that was required to deal with this abuse was a website ban.
You do the math, I know you guys know the rules as well as the punishments.
Jefjef kicked by KS which was wrong and lose jefjef a lotta points
Kanabellas was banned, striped, and kicked from many usergroups and was then cleared almost causing Kanabellas to retire from CC
firth4eva wrote:Oh come off all this rubbish about captain scarlet being a genuinely nice person. It was delia all along just pretending to be different so that she wouldn't get caught. Delia was both mentally unstable and a real problem for this site. It was good that she was banned on both accounts.
I used to be a friend of hers, then found that it was becoming increasingly difficult to ensure she separated cc from reality. She seems to hook up with anyone who she is of a mind too, then goes overboard, then it all becomes just too much trouble. My mailbox ended up bombarded with all sorts of crazy gang stuff. I have some really messed up stuff saved.
If a criminal escaped from jail and found somewhere to live, became friends with everyone there, became a teacher at the school, was just a regular member of society, and then the police caught up with them, the criminal's new friends would not say "Oh well he was good here, he was an asset to our village, he helped others" because a criminal is a criminal. You cannot ignore past crimes and the fact that it may all occur again with the same person should you let them roam free.
firth4eva wrote:If a criminal escaped from jail and found somewhere to live, became friends with everyone there, became a teacher at the school, was just a regular member of society, and then the police caught up with them, the criminal's new friends would not say "Oh well he was good here, he was an asset to our village, he helped others" because a criminal is a criminal. You cannot ignore past crimes and the fact that it may all occur again with the same person should you let them roam free.
Ronaldinho wrote:firth4eva wrote:If a criminal escaped from jail and found somewhere to live, became friends with everyone there, became a teacher at the school, was just a regular member of society, and then the police caught up with them, the criminal's new friends would not say "Oh well he was good here, he was an asset to our village, he helped others" because a criminal is a criminal. You cannot ignore past crimes and the fact that it may all occur again with the same person should you let them roam free.
I'm sorry but that is fuc**ng dribble mate. People can change. People find it in themselves to make up for what they've done. A few of my friends have done a bunch of dumb crap but i wouldn't ever hold it against them because they haven't been punished for it, because they learned from it and have moved on. Basically what you've just said is "IF YOU f*ck UP THEN YOU SHOULD JUST BE DUMPED ON THE CURB AND EVERYONE TO HATE YOU" Which is the most nimble minded piece of trash i've ever set eyes on. Its people like you who believe jail is somewhere for people to rot, be treated like rats and never be spoken to, and not to be taught what they've done wrong, improve their education and make them ready for society when they're ready. Fml.
lord voldemort wrote:
ohhh k....mistakes about multi's can sometimes be made...family people living under same roof. This is one of those case's this isnt the same as the cs/delia thing.
If delia wasnt website banned for the reasons she was. And it was found out cs was a multi. She could buy back or premium stripped etc. However because delia was webstie banned why would we let cs hang around. We banned delia for a reason
Mr. Squirrel wrote:pmchugh wrote:BUMP- one more fool needed
One fool reporting for duty!
colton24 wrote:lord voldemort wrote:
ohhh k....mistakes about multi's can sometimes be made...family people living under same roof. This is one of those case's this isnt the same as the cs/delia thing.
If delia wasnt website banned for the reasons she was. And it was found out cs was a multi. She could buy back or premium stripped etc. However because delia was webstie banned why would we let cs hang around. We banned delia for a reason
Ok then now answer this.
CS had premium and had a multi. Stripped and kicked from site.
Sailorseal had preium and multi. Stripped, but allowed to stay.
Double policies?
Ronaldinho wrote:firth4eva wrote:If a criminal escaped from jail and found somewhere to live, became friends with everyone there, became a teacher at the school, was just a regular member of society, and then the police caught up with them, the criminal's new friends would not say "Oh well he was good here, he was an asset to our village, he helped others" because a criminal is a criminal. You cannot ignore past crimes and the fact that it may all occur again with the same person should you let them roam free.
I'm sorry but that is fuc**ng dribble mate. People can change. People find it in themselves to make up for what they've done. A few of my friends have done a bunch of dumb crap but i wouldn't ever hold it against them because they haven't been punished for it, because they learned from it and have moved on. Basically what you've just said is "IF YOU f*ck UP THEN YOU SHOULD JUST BE DUMPED ON THE CURB AND EVERYONE TO HATE YOU" Which is the most nimble minded piece of trash i've ever set eyes on. Its people like you who believe jail is somewhere for people to rot, be treated like rats and never be spoken to, and not to be taught what they've done wrong, improve their education and make them ready for society when they're ready.
Well, comparing a website ban to jail is just silly.
natty_dread wrote:Well, comparing a website ban to jail is just silly.
To be fair, I think he was just using that analogy because he replied to a post where the poster compared C.S. to a criminal who escapes from jail and becomes a teacher, or something...
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