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Postby cyberdaniel on Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:43 pm

Robinette wrote:Pay no attention to him cyberdaniel, he lives in a different world. :wink:

lol

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:again, the total games means nothing


I tend to agree and disagree with you. The number of games matter to a certain point. While getting to 2000 points might be done in 50 or less games and getting to 3000 in 200 games, keeping that high place is a challenge.

At 2000 points I had almost a 1:2 ratio of wining. Around 3000 points (now that I'm playing only high ranked players) I have a 1:4 ratio.

At 3000 points, we're not fighting to get more points, we're fighting to stay there. Until there's enough players with really high scores to make it easier for us we'll be there at 3000. This is where we accumulate the high number of games.
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Postby qeee1 on Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:04 pm

My problem is, score inflation moves faster than I can win games, I play so little.

Anyway it's logical that people who play more should be better practiced, and therefore better players.

Saying i was the best was a joke btw, I'm good, but probably not the best, I still make stupid moves due to lack of experience sometimes, and afterwards realise, ah crap.
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Postby Incandenza on Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:15 pm

qeee1 wrote:Gots me a silly hat.


hmmm, I think I've heard that line somewhere before... :lol:

qeee1 wrote:Saying i was the best was a joke btw, I'm good, but probably not the best, I still make stupid moves due to lack of experience sometimes, and afterwards realise, ah crap.


I hate those braincramps. I'll never understand how some people can have 50+ games going. I've got like 20 or so, and even then I occasionally mess up because I'm rushing thru trying to grind out turns...
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Postby cyberdaniel on Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:32 pm

Incandenza wrote:I'll never understand how some people can have 50+ games going. I've got like 20 or so, and even then I occasionally mess up because I'm rushing thru trying to grind out turns...


I don't know, I like having many games. It makes me detach from each game and I can rethink each move before making them. By the way I remember each game with each plan, I don't take notes.
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Postby Robinette on Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:43 pm

qeee1 wrote:Saying i was the best was a joke btw

Yeah, I knew that... I was joking too btw... :wink:
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Postby Incandenza on Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:15 pm

cyberdaniel wrote:
Incandenza wrote:I'll never understand how some people can have 50+ games going. I've got like 20 or so, and even then I occasionally mess up because I'm rushing thru trying to grind out turns...


I don't know, I like having many games. It makes me detach from each game and I can rethink each move before making them. By the way I remember each game with each plan, I don't take notes.


Maybe I should give it a try. I haven't exactly been lighting the world on fire recently... :cry:

The crazy thing is that recently I've been in the sorts of games that I've never seen before. Yeah, I can do an escalating cascade as well as the next guy, but I'd never before played, say, a 6 person classic game where everyone has 60 or so armies, with several dispersed nodes of power each... it's gonna take some practice.

I will say, tho, there is an aesthetic, not to mention operational, beauty to some of the games being played at the elite/colonel level. I can't even imagine how one of those super elite games goes... it'd probably cause my forebrain to melt. :lol:
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Postby Robinette on Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:31 pm

Incandenza wrote:I will say, tho, there is an aesthetic, not to mention operational, beauty to some of the games being played at the elite/colonel level. I can't even imagine how one of those super elite games goes... it'd probably cause my forebrain to melt. :lol:

Let me tell you... they are fantastic...
6 players all making perfect moves...
That's right... no stoopid moves, no missed blocks
(except for that one, and for the record NUKE, I didn't miss it, I just thought it wasn't necessary),
and no missed oppourtunities (means no easy wins)

Yes, 6 players all knowing who, what, where, when and how to make moves and to take the board,

and 6 players all knowing who, what, where, when and how to keep the other players from doing so...


So any mistake, however rare, really stands out in these games.
So no matter how good you are,,,, luck is what you really need.
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Postby cyberdaniel on Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:52 pm

hmmm, ... escalating games ... how about another one like the 16 round North America that we had a while ago?
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Postby qeee1 on Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:21 pm

Robinette wrote:
Incandenza wrote:I will say, tho, there is an aesthetic, not to mention operational, beauty to some of the games being played at the elite/colonel level. I can't even imagine how one of those super elite games goes... it'd probably cause my forebrain to melt. :lol:

Let me tell you... they are fantastic...
6 players all making perfect moves...
That's right... no stoopid moves, no missed blocks
(except for that one, and for the record NUKE, I didn't miss it, I just thought it wasn't necessary),
and no missed oppourtunities (means no easy wins)

Yes, 6 players all knowing who, what, where, when and how to make moves and to take the board,

and 6 players all knowing who, what, where, when and how to keep the other players from doing so...


So any mistake, however rare, really stands out in these games.
So no matter how good you are,,,, luck is what you really need.


BAh, luck is overrated, the good are beaten by the better. No one is perfect, in games with more than two sides there is no perfect game, everyone makes mistakes.
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Postby Incandenza on Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:39 pm

Robinette wrote:goes on at rhapsodic length about the joy and glory of super elite games


I guess I'll just have to keep toiling in the coal mines until
A) I actually manage to get my sh*t together and get better at this damn game or
B) freefall back into captain-dom or
C) realize that cc is taking over my life and check myself into a rehab facility, where I'll reenact the infamous detox scene from trainspotting, only it'll be a damn ninja turtle crawling across the ceiling
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Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:02 pm

Robinette wrote:
Incandenza wrote:I will say, tho, there is an aesthetic, not to mention operational, beauty to some of the games being played at the elite/colonel level. I can't even imagine how one of those super elite games goes... it'd probably cause my forebrain to melt. :lol:

Let me tell you... they are fantastic...
6 players all making perfect moves...
That's right... no stoopid moves, no missed blocks
(except for that one, and for the record NUKE, I didn't miss it, I just thought it wasn't necessary),
and no missed oppourtunities (means no easy wins)

Yes, 6 players all knowing who, what, where, when and how to make moves and to take the board,



and 6 players all knowing who, what, where, when and how to keep the other players from doing so...


So any mistake, however rare, really stands out in these games.
So no matter how good you are,,,, luck is what you really need.


I seen quite a few players in these games that have no idea how to play.
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Postby Robinette on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:16 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I seen quite a few players in these games that have no idea how to play.

What you are really saying is that they do not play the way YOU do...
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Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:38 pm

Robinette wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I seen quite a few players in these games that have no idea how to play.

What you are really saying is that they do not play the way YOU do...


What you are really saying is that they move and block perfect the way YOU do.
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Postby Robinette on Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:15 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Robinette wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I seen quite a few players in these games that have no idea how to play.

What you are really saying is that they do not play the way YOU do...


What you are really saying is that they move and block perfect the way YOU do.

hee hee... okay, you got me there, I can't argue with that.

of course, that was the point I was trying to make in the 1st place :-$
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Postby CBlake on Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:21 pm

steelplayin is general
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Postby Robinette on Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:32 pm

This was posted in another thread made just for steelplaying --> "You can do iiiiiiiiit"

Congrats to steelplaying....

The 19th general of all time
And at 448 games, the 8th best ever...

Pop open a bottle of Champagne and celebrate!
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Postby Russianfire8371 on Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:55 pm

-looks at scoreboard- 9 generals???

Has there ever been this many generals before?
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Postby RobinJ on Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:14 pm

No - just think how many there will be in, for example, just another year of conquer club. Congrats to all who are up there - they are great players - but the ranks need to be changed to make general less acheivable. I think I'll go and see if I can drag up a thread about changing the ranks from somewhere...
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Postby Marvaddin on Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:29 pm

I think I can now be added to the list :D

... Although I doubt it will last too much :wink:
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Postby Fireside Poet on Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:03 pm

Marvaddin wrote:I think I can now be added to the list :D

... Although I doubt it will last too much :wink:


:shock: =D>

Let me be the first to congratulate you. Nice going, Marvaddin!
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Postby AAFitz on Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:05 pm

congrats mavardian...im sure youll get your own thread as do all...for now accept this
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Postby Robinette on Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:15 pm

This is the most up to date General list...

20 have made it thus far


GENERAL .... 3000 points.... in Chronological order

1. Alstergren 7-27-06 ............... 549 games
2. Pilate 8-13-06 ........................ 308 games
3. Belzbub 9-26-06 ..................... 348 games
4. Eye84free 10-20-06 .............. 847 games
before/after Halloween------------------------------------------
5. Blitzaholic 11-2-06 ................ 511 games
...broke 4000 @ 1071 games
6. Andrewb 11-21-06 ................ 788 games
7. Dminus
* 11-24-06 .................. 801 games * busted as a multi, grrrr
before/after Thanksgiving----------------------------------------
8. Nuke 12-17-06 ...................... 191 games
...while still a colonel
9. RL Orange 12-20-06 .............. 690 games
10. Robinette 12-23-06 ............. 193 games
...while still a colonel
11. Dugcarr 12-24-06 ................. 846 games
before/after New Years------------------------------------------
12. Johnnyrocket 1-10-07 .......... 1,649 games
13. Eddymush 1-22-07 ............ 1,472 games
14. Blackrose 1-23-07 .................. 479 games
15. Cyberdaniel 1-28-07 ............ 345 games
16. Jork 1-31-07 ......................... 366 games
after January-------------------------------------------------
17. Juventino 2-6-07 .................. 235 games
18. maniacmath17 2-22-07..........562 games
19. steelplayin 2-25-07................448 games
20. Marvaddin 3-15-07...................532 games
21.



GENERAL .... 3000 points.... in game order

1. Nuke 12-17-06 ....................... 191 games
...while still a colonel
2. Robinette 12-23-06 ................ 193 games
...while still a colonel
3. Juventino 2-6-07 ................... 235 games
over/under 250 games---------------------------------------------
4. Pilate 8-13-06 ......................... 308 games
5. Cyberdaniel 1-28-07 ............. 345 games
6. Belzbub 9-26-06 ...................... 348 games
7. Jork 1-31-07 ........................... 366 games
8. steelplayin 2-25-07.................448 games
9. Blackrose 1-23-07 ................... 479 games
over/under 500 games---------------------------------------------
10. Blitzaholic 11-2-06 ............... 511 games
...also broke 4000 @ 1071 games
11. Marvaddin 3-15-07...................532 games
12. Alstergren 7-27-06 ............... 549 games
13. maniacmath17 2-22-07..........562 games
14. RL Orange 12-20-06 .............. 690 games
over/under 750 games---------------------------------------------
15. Andrewb 11-21-06 ................ 788 games
16. Dminus
* 11-24-06 .................. 801 games * busted as a multi, grrrr
17. Dugcarr 12-24-06 ................... 846 games
18. Eye84free 10-20-06 .............. 847 games
over/under 1000 games---------------------------------------------
19. Eddymush 1-22-07 ............. 1,472 games
20. Johnnyrocket 1-10-07 ........... 1,649 games
21.

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Postby Robinette on Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:07 pm

Congrats to Osojacket... the 21st General ever

Time for me to update the list...
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Postby dcowboys055 on Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:10 pm

congrats osu!
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Postby Robinette on Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:40 pm

Robinette wrote:This is the most up to date General list...

21 have made it thus far


GENERAL .... 3000 points.... in Chronological order

1. Alstergren 7-27-06 ............... 549 games
2. Pilate 8-13-06 ........................ 308 games
3. Belzbub 9-26-06 ..................... 348 games
4. Eye84free 10-20-06 .............. 847 games
before/after Halloween------------------------------------------
5. Blitzaholic 11-2-06 ................ 511 games
...broke 4000 @ 1071 games
6. Andrewb 11-21-06 ................ 788 games
7. Dminus
* 11-24-06 .................. 801 games * busted as a multi, grrrr
before/after Thanksgiving----------------------------------------
8. Nuke 12-17-06 ...................... 191 games
...while still a colonel
9. RL Orange 12-20-06 .............. 690 games
10. Robinette 12-23-06 ............. 193 games
...while still a colonel
11. Dugcarr 12-24-06 ................. 846 games
before/after New Years------------------------------------------
12. Johnnyrocket 1-10-07 .......... 1,649 games
13. Eddymush 1-22-07 ............ 1,472 games
14. Blackrose 1-23-07 .................. 479 games
15. Cyberdaniel 1-28-07 ............ 345 games
16. Jork 1-31-07 ......................... 366 games
after January-------------------------------------------------
17. Juventino 2-6-07 .................. 235 games
18. maniacmath17 2-22-07..........562 games
19. steelplayin 2-25-07................448 games
20. Marvaddin 3-15-07...................532 games
21. osujacket 3-23-07...............1,161 games



GENERAL .... 3000 points.... in game order

1. Nuke 12-17-06 ....................... 191 games
...while still a colonel
2. Robinette 12-23-06 ................ 193 games
...while still a colonel
3. Juventino 2-6-07 ................... 235 games
over/under 250 games---------------------------------------------
4. Pilate 8-13-06 ......................... 308 games
5. Cyberdaniel 1-28-07 ............. 345 games
6. Belzbub 9-26-06 ...................... 348 games
7. Jork 1-31-07 ........................... 366 games
8. steelplayin 2-25-07.................448 games
9. Blackrose 1-23-07 ................... 479 games
over/under 500 games---------------------------------------------
10. Blitzaholic 11-2-06 ............... 511 games
...also broke 4000 @ 1071 games
11. Marvaddin 3-15-07...................532 games
12. Alstergren 7-27-06 ............... 549 games
13. maniacmath17 2-22-07..........562 games
14. RL Orange 12-20-06 .............. 690 games
over/under 750 games---------------------------------------------
15. Andrewb 11-21-06 ................ 788 games
16. Dminus
* 11-24-06 .................. 801 games * busted as a multi, grrrr
17. Dugcarr 12-24-06 ................... 846 games
18. Eye84free 10-20-06 .............. 847 games
over/under 1000 games---------------------------------------------
19. osujacket 3-23-07................1,161 games
20. Eddymush 1-22-07 ............. 1,472 games
21. Johnnyrocket 1-10-07 ........... 1,649 games


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