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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:15 pm

pmchugh wrote:
freakns wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:why not? just not enough interested in your clan?

she is in vdll, they are out... sometimes you just have no idea what are you writing :P


Obviously not doing much background work on l4d, maybe I should change my prediction ;)


lol, well, I thought they were, but when she said she is not playing in the cup, I got confused. Then, I remembered L4D just played them and was real close match if I heard right.
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Natascha on Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:51 am

Blitzaholic wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
freakns wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:why not? just not enough interested in your clan?

she is in vdll, they are out... sometimes you just have no idea what are you writing :P


Obviously not doing much background work on l4d, maybe I should change my prediction ;)


lol, well, I thought they were, but when she said she is not playing in the cup, I got confused. Then, I remembered L4D just played them and was real close match if I heard right.


On the moment this cup started I was quite busy, missed it somehow. So I did not play this cup at all, next time better.
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Big Whiskey on Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:16 am

That's a shame Nat.You are a great player and who knows what would have happened if you took part. :)
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Natascha on Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:43 am

Big Whiskey wrote:That's a shame Nat.You are a great player and who knows what would have happened if you took part. :)


tx BW ;)
Just missed it somehow :oops:
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:18 pm

Natascha wrote:
Big Whiskey wrote:That's a shame Nat.You are a great player and who knows what would have happened if you took part. :)


tx BW ;)
Just missed it somehow :oops:



we may of been playing you if you had played? never know. not sure I like playing against my friends, but, is there love in war? :lol:
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby freakns on Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:06 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
Natascha wrote:
Big Whiskey wrote:That's a shame Nat.You are a great player and who knows what would have happened if you took part. :)


tx BW ;)
Just missed it somehow :oops:



we may of been playing you if you had played? never know. not sure I like playing against my friends, but, is there love in war? :lol:

good thing we arent friends as i enjoy kicking your ass! :P
BW is different story, he is a nice lad, shame he is getting hits because of you :P
and Natasha is always ready for some spanking, so whoever wins it, we got out of it both happy :lol: she have gentle hands :oops:
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:23 pm

freakns wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Natascha wrote:
Big Whiskey wrote:That's a shame Nat.You are a great player and who knows what would have happened if you took part. :)


tx BW ;)
Just missed it somehow :oops:



we may of been playing you if you had played? never know. not sure I like playing against my friends, but, is there love in war? :lol:

good thing we arent friends as i enjoy kicking your ass! :P
BW is different story, he is a nice lad, shame he is getting hits because of you :P
and Natasha is always ready for some spanking, so whoever wins it, we got out of it both happy :lol: she have gentle hands :oops:


I don't recall you doing that for a long time, seems like we have won the last few tourney's against you. :D

only if your actions were as big as your mouth , oh you would be super :lol:

and are you saying Leia cheated on me? :-s :(
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby freakns on Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:01 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
freakns wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Natascha wrote:
Big Whiskey wrote:That's a shame Nat.You are a great player and who knows what would have happened if you took part. :)


tx BW ;)
Just missed it somehow :oops:



we may of been playing you if you had played? never know. not sure I like playing against my friends, but, is there love in war? :lol:

good thing we arent friends as i enjoy kicking your ass! :P
BW is different story, he is a nice lad, shame he is getting hits because of you :P
and Natasha is always ready for some spanking, so whoever wins it, we got out of it both happy :lol: she have gentle hands :oops:


I don't recall you doing that for a long time, seems like we have won the last few tourney's against you. :D

only if your actions were as big as your mouth , oh you would be super :lol:

and are you saying Leia cheated on me? :-s :(

nah, that was pure luck and skills of your companions, not you! you got out of every game in second round :lol:
and i have one more thing big as my mouth! and thats the thing girls love most! my wallet.

as for Leia... define cheating? :lol:
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:13 pm

freakns wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
freakns wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
we may of been playing you if you had played? never know. not sure I like playing against my friends, but, is there love in war? :lol:


BW is different story, he is a nice lad, shame he is getting hits because of you :P
and Natasha is always ready for some spanking, so whoever wins it, we got out of it both happy :lol: she have gentle hands :oops:


I don't recall you doing that for a long time, seems like we have won the last few tourney's against you. :D

only if your actions were as big as your mouth , oh you would be super :lol:

and are you saying Leia cheated on me? :-s :(

nah, that was pure luck and skills of your companions, not you! you got out of every game in second round :lol:
and i have one more thing big as my mouth! and thats the thing girls love most! my wallet.

as for Leia... define cheating? :lol:


you dirty dog, what kind of fornicating you doneth? :lol:
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:51 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
niMic wrote:Where's our latest challenge?


It is not counted in this ladder, since we are now an A clan and they are a B clan. Basically means we beat them too bad for it to count.



Maybe it should not count fully, but, partially or half or something, I don't know.
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:30 pm

year 2008 to 2010, JP's latest

Both Tier 1 (Gold) and Tier 2 (Silver) RPI Ladders use the following:

  • Both use the RPI formulation of Win% (WP), Opponent's Win% (OWP) and Opponent's Opponent's Win% (OOWP)
  • A ladder contains only the results of A vs A clans. If a B rated Clan defeats or shows A level status in a challenge (>=40 games) against an A clan (aka qualifying challenge), that challenge and clan will be added to the A ladder results. All previous results of the promoted B clan do not transfer over. B ladder contains all other results and all A level clans are hidden in the B ladder
  • The A Ladder also includes Season 1 of the League (in total vs an opponent called Season 1), but is not included in the W-L-T record. The league is weighted less due to the amount of Doubles played in Season 1.
  • Most historical data is grandfathered. A ladder results need a minimum of 40 games, B ladder results need a minimum of 30 games.
  • There is a Decay Factor which lessens the impact of older challenges. After 2 years, the factor is 0 and that challenge is removed from the database
  • The is also a Depth Factor. This factor places a higher weighting on larger challenges above the minimum game numbers.
  • I have added total Games to show the experience levels of clans
  • The A ladder has an additional factor call "Team Play". This factor is to promote a balance of Dubs-Trips-Quads. The target is an average of 2.85 to 3.15 players per game.
  • The A ladder has an additional factor for winning after the RPI is calculated so that not only do you have to face good opponents, you need to win. This essentially lowers the need to raise your win% of games (eg 40-0 or 21-19) but does not eliminate it.
  • Ladder will be updated periodically and after significant challenges

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congratz to all who made it . =D>
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby jpcloet on Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:33 pm

This includes THOTA over TSM.
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:38 pm

Jp's update from October 2009 to February 2010

1. Thota
2. Tsm
3. IA
4. Tofu
5. Empire
6. Low
7. O+H
8. Aod
9. ID
10. Bss
11. Legion
12. BpB
13. Gen 1
14. DDVL
15. DD
16. Kort

Jp's newest update from March 2008 to March 2010

1. Thota
2. Tsm
3. IA
4. Tofu
5. Low
6. Empire
7. ID
8. Aod
9. O+H
10. Gen 1
11. Legion
12. Bss
13. DD
14. Nemesis
15. BpB
16. EE
17. DVLL
18. Kort






jpcloet wrote:This includes THOTA over TSM.



ok, thx Jp, great work, and I appreciate all the effort you put into this. =D>
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby jpcloet on Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:59 pm

The League regular season should end in about 4-6 weeks. KORT, BPB should get some boost based on their success.
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:06 pm

jpcloet wrote:The League regular season should end in about 4-6 weeks. KORT, BPB should get some boost based on their success.


I hope so, they both near the bottom, only can go up from that you would think.
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:50 pm

JP our last challenge should not be 0.1 months ago, it should read 0.0. I mean we just won a significant game for 41 just now.

Incandenza on Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:30 pm
Waterloo quads just went final, so the win is official. Just one more active game (tho that might go on for another month).

Thanks again to the Monkis for an amazing challenge, you guys are badass.

from Inc.'s post, you can see the date and time. Although I have 12:30am Mon March 22, 2010
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby jpcloet on Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:02 am

You do realize that 0.1 = 3 days....

Anyways, the date can be modified but I'm using the significant completion date. Not going to make a big difference.
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Snowgun on Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:17 am

Is this seriously accurate for ++the legion++? 5.6 for last challenge? 1-5-0 WLT ratio? could we get this computed again?
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Blitzaholic on Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:43 am

jpcloet wrote:You do realize that 0.1 = 3 days....

Anyways, the date can be modified but I'm using the significant completion date. Not going to make a big difference.


I realize this, but, we do want it accurate ;) It would be 0.1 on March 25th and there is still a game active.

Snowgun wrote:Is this seriously accurate for ++the legion++? 5.6 for last challenge? 1-5-0 WLT ratio? could we get this computed again?



I think he only counted the last 2 years, so this would be from March 2008 til present, does that seem accurate Snowgun?
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby jpcloet on Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:29 pm

Snowgun wrote:Is this seriously accurate for ++the legion++? 5.6 for last challenge? 1-5-0 WLT ratio? could we get this computed again?


I will verify. The inclusion of the league did mean a few challenges with the pivot tables so not completely automated.
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby jpcloet on Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:10 pm

Confirmed Legion is 1-5. Most of your wins came against B class clans.

victories on
Generation One: The Clan 36 games results

defeated by
EMPIRE 31 games results
Sky Force 60 games results
The Spanking Monkeys 40 games results
The Untouchables 39 games results
The Warlords of the Wort 21 games results
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:39 pm

jpcloet wrote:Confirmed Legion is 1-5. Most of your wins came against B class clans.

victories on
Generation One: The Clan 36 games results

defeated by
EMPIRE 31 games results
Sky Force 60 games results
The Spanking Monkeys 40 games results
The Untouchables 39 games results
The Warlords of the Wort 21 games results



ouch, but, those are some pretty good clans to be fair.
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Snowgun on Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:00 pm

So we don't count the wins against any "B" clans huh? Most of those wins were before this A and B raking system anyway. Well, we'll have to make sure we put some A listers in the wins column.

Also, whats this "last Challenge" number. We are in a challenge right now!
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby VampireM on Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:15 pm

i believe its the last completed challenge, so once ur current challenge ends u will got back to 0 or 0.1 as ur last challenge
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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Postby Incandenza on Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:23 pm

Just out of curiosity, why do Legion's wins against B clans get discarded, yet a loss to a B clan like the Wort (a disbanded B clan at that) get counted? Seems like some double jeopardy to me.
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