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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:14 am

I'm trying to figure out if I would pay a higher income tax in a European country or a lower one. That will literally take me two months to figure out. Damn exchange rates.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby stahrgazer on Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:49 pm

Great editorial here.. link and text below

http://www.longislandpress.com/2010/03/24/off-the-reservation-republican-party-1856-2010/

Off the Reservation: Republican Party (1856 – 2010)

By Jed Morey on Mar 24th, 2010

I don’t care much for the health care bill or the process it went through, but I applaud the intent. Rather than dissecting the bill I would like to offer a quick message to the Democratic Party. Then, if you don’t mind, I would like to speak privately with my party, the Republican Party.

Democrats—please refrain from referring to this bill as an ā€œoverhaulā€ of the system. While it is indeed reform, it doesn’t cure the inherent flaws in the system. No, I haven’t read all 2,500 pages of the bill yet, but cutting Medicare reimbursements and treatment options, while increasing public access to pharmaceuticals, goes against my beliefs. I’m also incredulous at the Congressional Budget Office’s suggestion that this will reduce the deficit. Please don’t insult American intelligence. Having said that, providing the opportunity for 32 million Americans to visit a doctor for the first time outweighs any issues I have with this bill. Just call it a start, not an overhaul.

Here you go, kids: Thinking about becoming a Young Republican? Log onto www.gop.com today to find out more about hate mongering and propaganda!

Now onto my dear fellow Republicans. (And to the guy who clips out my column and scribbles ironically, ā€œHey Asshole, don’t you know any better words?ā€ whenever I curse, the answer is yes. But today I just can’t seem to find them.)

Republicans are shouting and spitting like a bunch of fucking hyenas as they clamor for face time in the media. They’re filling our inboxes, vandalizing our social networking profiles and polluting the airwaves with venomous messages rebuking the Obama Administration over health care. HEALTH CARE! My fellow Republicans are tearing this nation apart over providing medical care for those less fortunate. Not bank bailouts, war, or wasteful pork spending— Health care. Really?

The behavior among elected Republicans and the dimwitted TV pundits who are whipping America into an absolute frenzy is the worst thing about this bill and has led me to question my long-standing affiliation with the Republican Party. For a moment, I thought it was me; that maybe I had changed and lost touch with Republicanism. So, in seeking to refresh my recollection of what this party stands for, I logged onto the GOP home page.

What I found was as pathetic as it was cartoonish. A complete embarrassment. The site opens to a fiery red screen with Nancy Pelosi, fists and teeth clenched in a fit of rage against a backdrop of flames, with the words ā€œFire Pelosiā€ in bold letters emblazoned on the screen. This buffoonery doesn’t torch Nancy Pelosi—it’s Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower and Abraham Lincoln who are torched by the flames of dissent and hatred that now embody this once-great party.

Going deeper in the site only serves to highlight the confusion within the GOP. It lists the accomplishments of the Republican Party since its inception and its own core values of today. It proudly claims responsibility for freeing the slaves, establishing Howard University and outlawing the Ku Klux Klan. It touts Republican leadership in writing the 19th Amendment, passing two civil rights acts and ending racial segregation in Little Rock. The list spans two centuries of achievements such as these and others that today seem more in alignment with the Democratic Party, like establishing Yellowstone National Park, building the federal highway system and authoring welfare reform.

This is the party I belong to.

But the current ā€œplatformā€ā€”if you can call it that—lists only six ideals. The power of the individual, voluntary giving, limited government, low taxes, less regulation and national strength. That’s what it says, but what it practices is hate, because hate sells when the chips are down. Well, here’s the newsflash: The strong Republican individual who enjoyed low taxes, limited government and less regulation didn’t voluntarily give a hand to the 32 million people under eight years of Bush Jr., four under Bush Sr. and eight under Reagan. And the eight under Clinton? We Republicans killed health care then too. So, no. The ā€œvoluntary givingā€ portion of the agenda hasn’t worked.

This bill is what we get for not doing something sooner. Now the Republican Party is calling for true health care reform and vowing to still kill this bill? NOW? Too bad, so sad. Too little, too late. Everything that is wrong with this bill is the fault of every loser in office with an (R) next to his or her name.

From the realm of beyond ridiculous comes the conservative movement. The growing number of so-called ā€œTea Partyā€ activists are hunting their own, outing those they call Republicans In Name Only, or ā€œRINOs.ā€ They have taken their vituperative agenda to the streets, hurling racial epithets at democratic lawmakers and preaching angry messages to Fox’s ravenous cameras. Television ratings and voter ire are feeding off one another and creating a vortex of hatred that has gone viral and beyond.

There is nothing grand about this old party that preys only on the enmity of the populous. There is nothing admirable or principled about fear mongering. Where are the inspired solutions that made this party great?

I’m calling it. I hereby officially pronounce the Republican Party dead. The GOP died suddenly on March 23, 2010 from a diseased mind and heart. It was 154 years old. The son of Ronald Reagan, grandson of Theodore Roosevelt and great-grandson of Abraham Lincoln is survived only by bastard stepchildren who have squandered the family fortune and sullied its good name.

A plague on all of your tents, I say. I renounce my allegiance to those who cloak themselves in the shroud of Republicanism without understanding what it means to be so. I stand firmly by the glorious list of accomplishments from which these whores have divorced themselves and await the day a new breed of Republicans rediscovers the true meaning behind the core values of this party. Until then you have lost my vote of confidence and, more importantly, my vote. When you do return to your collective senses and stand for something other than hatred and dissent, I will be there, because a real elephant never forgets.

If you wish to comment on ā€œOff the Reservation,ā€ send your message to jmorey@longislandpress.com
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:59 pm

He's not a Republican, clearly.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:28 pm

I hope the Republican party is dead. I want the conservative party to flourish. Smaller government, common sense, more nationalism (why in the f*ck did we borrow 100 mill from the chinese to give to Haiti?), and less religious influence.

In related news, Obama is still a communist, and I don't want him to have my money to give to other people that don't have any. He has never held a real job for any period of time and the fact that people think he can be president shows how dumb most of America is.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby natty dread on Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:42 pm

I once spent 10000 euros in 2 months. Had fun at the time. Felt stupid afterwards.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:14 pm

natty_dread wrote:I once spent 10000 euros in 2 months. Had fun at the time. Felt stupid afterwards.


I calll bullshit, considering your main employment is writing a shitty newsletter on a site for free.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby natty dread on Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:29 pm

jbrettlip wrote:
natty_dread wrote:I once spent 10000 euros in 2 months. Had fun at the time. Felt stupid afterwards.


I calll bullshit, considering your main employment is writing a shitty newsletter on a site for free.


No no, your mother actually paid quite well. I have to say, I can understand why such a hairy woman has to pay such large amounts for... umm... "service".
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:43 pm

natty_dread wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:
natty_dread wrote:I once spent 10000 euros in 2 months. Had fun at the time. Felt stupid afterwards.


I calll bullshit, considering your main employment is writing a shitty newsletter on a site for free.


No no, your mother actually paid quite well. I have to say, I can understand why such a hairy woman has to pay such large amounts for... umm... "service".


WHOA!! A mom joke??? That is awesome, original and completely indefensible. I have no idea how to respond to such a unique slam!!! Should I try A)"Leave my mom out of this, and I will leave this out of your mom" while grabbing my crotch? Or the B) why the f*ck are you fucking 71 yr old women, even for money??Or C) my fingers are mad at me for making me type at a dumbfuck like you?

I am guessing C is the right answer.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby natty dread on Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:44 pm

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

So there!

Ps. my dad is stronger than your dad!
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:47 pm

natty_dread wrote:Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.

So there!

Ps. my dad is stronger than your dad!


I have no dad!!! REPORT POST!!!
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby natty dread on Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:50 pm

Well, I'll report your reporting.

Man you're lucky I don't have my accidental mod powers anymore... ;)
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:56 pm

I hate your avatar, and I don't know why. What the f*ck is that from?
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby natty dread on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:01 pm

Does R. Crumb ring a bell?
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:03 pm

natty_dread wrote:Does R. Crumb ring a bell?



Yes, he was my boy scout leader and tried to rape me. That explains a lot.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby natty dread on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:09 pm

jbrettlip wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Does R. Crumb ring a bell?



Yes, he was my boy scout leader and tried to rape me. That explains a lot.


Yes, it actually does.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:18 pm

natty_dread wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Does R. Crumb ring a bell?



Yes, he was my boy scout leader and tried to rape me. That explains a lot.


Yes, it actually does.


I thought that was a pic of you he drew, with a brown beard, but now I see it is white from all the semen you orally milk out of old men.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby natty dread on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:23 pm

jbrettlip wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Does R. Crumb ring a bell?



Yes, he was my boy scout leader and tried to rape me. That explains a lot.


Yes, it actually does.


I thought that was a pic of you he drew, with a brown beard, but now I see it is white from all the semen you orally milk out of old men.


Well yeah, but you have to forgive me, I haven't had the opportunity to learn from my dad how to swallow liters of the stuff like you.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:39 pm

natty_dread wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Does R. Crumb ring a bell?



Yes, he was my boy scout leader and tried to rape me. That explains a lot.


Yes, it actually does.


I thought that was a pic of you he drew, with a brown beard, but now I see it is white from all the semen you orally milk out of old men.


Well yeah, but you have to forgive me, I haven't had the opportunity to learn from my dad how to swallow liters of the stuff like you.


liters...only a fairy like your dad would adopt the metric system or a retard like you.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby john9blue on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:40 pm

I declare this topic the new Flame Wars.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:42 pm

john9blue wrote:I declare this topic the new Flame Wars.


Don't ruin our fun you know no mods are here.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:43 pm

ANd john9blue, I see you didn''t repeat in NCAA. You must be the byproduct of some "cousin love".
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby john9blue on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:50 pm

Hey, I got SCREWED this year. That whole tournament was ridiculous. This year doesn't count.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby natty dread on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:50 pm

jbrettlip wrote:liters...only a fairy like your dad would adopt the metric system or a retard like you.


Oh Em Gee, now you crossed the line. Say whatever you want about me or my dad BUT FOOKIN' LAY OFF THE METRIC SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

(You know, I couldn't be gladder that we use the metric system. At least we didn't have to use arcane means of length measurement to see how much I had grown each year, such as how deep does your dick go into your father's rectum...)


...ok jbrett, this has been fun, but I really do need some sleep now... perhaps if the topic is still open tomorrow we can continue where we left :D
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby jbrettlip on Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:53 pm

natty_dread wrote:
jbrettlip wrote:liters...only a fairy like your dad would adopt the metric system or a retard like you.


Oh Em Gee, now you crossed the line. Say whatever you want about me or my dad BUT FOOKIN' LAY OFF THE METRIC SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

(You know, I couldn't be gladder that we use the metric system. At least we didn't have to use arcane means of length measurement to see how much I had grown each year, such as how deep does your dick go into your father's rectum...)


...ok jbrett, this has been fun, but I really do need some sleep now... perhaps if the topic is still open tomorrow we can continue where we left :D


If the metric system is so great, why isn't there one for time? 24 hours doesn't sound so metric, but it does sound like the amount of time it takes your mom's triple chins to stop giggling after I throat f*ck her.
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Re: Socialized Healthcare

Postby stahrgazer on Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:23 pm

thegreekdog wrote:He's not a Republican, clearly.


He's like me: someone who was once proud to be a Republican, but now feels tainted by its corruption.
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