1000 Govt Expenditures We Can Cut Before Police n Teachers..

[Baron Von PWN]

Legalise prostitution and tax that pimp.

Fixed it for you.

Kthx

Legalise prostitution and tax that bitch.

why not tax the rich more,they pay so little of their fare share

Why not tax children? Slave labour ftw.

Better yet, cut child labour laws, think of the untapped low cost labour force!

Also, cut construction safety regulation enforcing those is a waste of taxpayers money! America's forefathers didin't need em so neither doese America!

[spurgistan]

Legalise prostitution and tax that pimp.

Fixed it for you.

Well, actually, pimps would be phased out if prostitution were legalized. At least their "services" would no longer be necessary.

[Trephining]

Pimps wouldn't disappear if prostitution were legalized. Look at the brothels in Clark County, Nevada. They have proprietors who are actually pimps. Maybe their means of collection changes, as they don't slap the woman to get the money, but they are still pimps.

[Phatscotty]

less funding for schools...i really dont think kids need new pc's in schools...

now thats a waste of money

USA was #1 in education before federal funding. Lets just cut the board of education completely.

The bigger the BOE, the worse America's education is. total fact. anyone have a problem with my statement? bring a BOE track record with you. (no Canadians)

Once again you are always right.....keep throwing your republican bullshit out there,first thing the only one you can blame for the fucked up kids is bush..

ummmm remember no kid left behind,or have you already forgot that,as you can see it worked so well

yeah, bush had tons of bullshit policies, and i was only slightly less pissed of as I am now. All presidents suck. WE have not had a good one in some time. did you even check the BOE track record? or do you "just know its really good"? I like how you dodge the issue, and a specific request, and just straight to Bush, like I give a shit about Bush or something???

[Phatscotty]

Pimps wouldn't disappear if prostitution were legalized. Look at the brothels in Clark County, Nevada. They have proprietors who are actually pimps. Maybe their means of collection changes, as they don't slap the woman to get the money, but they are still pimps.

men will always be able to control weak-minded women with lose self esteem, and always will.

[Phatscotty]

less funding for schools...i really dont think kids need new pc's in schools...

now thats a waste of money

USA was #1 in education before federal funding. Lets just cut the board of education completely.
The bigger the BOE, the worse America's education is. total fact. anyone have a problem with my statement? bring a BOE track record with you. (no Canadians)

This is a wonderful example of looking at only part of the situation. Yes, the USA used to be #1 in education, and that the USA has gone downhill in that regard since. However, this has far more to do with other countries pouring money INTO education than it does with the the education in the USA going down. Other nations have simply stepped up their efforts, and they've done so in more effective ways than we have, exponentially improving their systems largely because they had so much more room to grow.

I strongly recommend the movie Two Million Minutes, which follows the high school educations of two pretty average American students, two pretty average Indian students and two pretty average Chinese students. A fascinating video.

excellent point. but I was not only talking about USA compared to rest of World, althought that was part of it. It was however more directed to USA year over year getting worse compared to USA last year, and the BOE getting 10% more money than they got last year. My point is quite simple....

WHERES THE BEEF?

It seems nobody even wants to look at the results, but rather support/oppose based on politics? hmm, maybe that is a part of the problem?

[Woodruff]

less funding for schools...i really dont think kids need new pc's in schools...

now thats a waste of money

USA was #1 in education before federal funding. Lets just cut the board of education completely.
The bigger the BOE, the worse America's education is. total fact. anyone have a problem with my statement? bring a BOE track record with you. (no Canadians)

This is a wonderful example of looking at only part of the situation. Yes, the USA used to be #1 in education, and that the USA has gone downhill in that regard since. However, this has far more to do with other countries pouring money INTO education than it does with the the education in the USA going down. Other nations have simply stepped up their efforts, and they've done so in more effective ways than we have, exponentially improving their systems largely because they had so much more room to grow.

I strongly recommend the movie Two Million Minutes, which follows the high school educations of two pretty average American students, two pretty average Indian students and two pretty average Chinese students. A fascinating video.

excellent point. but I was not only talking about USA compared to rest of World, althought that was part of it. It was however more directed to USA year over year getting worse compared to USA last year, and the BOE getting 10% more money than they got last year.

You specifically referred to "USA was #1 in education". Trying to move the goalposts on me again, Scotty?

My point is quite simple....
WHERES THE BEEF?
It seems nobody even wants to look at the results, but rather support/oppose based on politics? hmm, maybe that is a part of the problem?

Where did I support/oppose "based on politics"? In fact, I would go so far as to say that YOUR assertion was "based on politics" far more than mine was.

[Snorri1234]

Pimps wouldn't disappear if prostitution were legalized. Look at the brothels in Clark County, Nevada. They have proprietors who are actually pimps. Maybe their means of collection changes, as they don't slap the woman to get the money, but they are still pimps.

Yeah, thinking pimps would disappear is like thinking managers would disappear if you allowed people to set up their own shops. Some women will be independent, and some will work on a commission. Pimps provide the rooms, the services and the protection like always.

[Phatscotty]

less funding for schools...i really dont think kids need new pc's in schools...

now thats a waste of money

USA was #1 in education before federal funding. Lets just cut the board of education completely.
The bigger the BOE, the worse America's education is. total fact. anyone have a problem with my statement? bring a BOE track record with you. (no Canadians)

This is a wonderful example of looking at only part of the situation. Yes, the USA used to be #1 in education, and that the USA has gone downhill in that regard since. However, this has far more to do with other countries pouring money INTO education than it does with the the education in the USA going down. Other nations have simply stepped up their efforts, and they've done so in more effective ways than we have, exponentially improving their systems largely because they had so much more room to grow.

I strongly recommend the movie Two Million Minutes, which follows the high school educations of two pretty average American students, two pretty average Indian students and two pretty average Chinese students. A fascinating video.

excellent point. but I was not only talking about USA compared to rest of World, althought that was part of it. It was however more directed to USA year over year getting worse compared to USA last year, and the BOE getting 10% more money than they got last year.

You specifically referred to "USA was #1 in education". Trying to move the goalposts on me again, Scotty?

My point is quite simple....
WHERES THE BEEF?
It seems nobody even wants to look at the results, but rather support/oppose based on politics? hmm, maybe that is a part of the problem?

Where did I support/oppose "based on politics"? In fact, I would go so far as to say that YOUR assertion was "based on politics" far more than mine was.

I have only asked on thing.....RESULTS
you did not adress it and are trying to do the very thing you accused me of. Everything else inbetween that original question was talking to other people about other things who also avoided the question.

WHERES THE BEEF (ie, bring your BOE track record with you)

[Woodruff]

USA was #1 in education before federal funding. Lets just cut the board of education completely.
The bigger the BOE, the worse America's education is. total fact. anyone have a problem with my statement? bring a BOE track record with you. (no Canadians)

This is a wonderful example of looking at only part of the situation. Yes, the USA used to be #1 in education, and that the USA has gone downhill in that regard since. However, this has far more to do with other countries pouring money INTO education than it does with the the education in the USA going down. Other nations have simply stepped up their efforts, and they've done so in more effective ways than we have, exponentially improving their systems largely because they had so much more room to grow.

I strongly recommend the movie Two Million Minutes, which follows the high school educations of two pretty average American students, two pretty average Indian students and two pretty average Chinese students. A fascinating video.

excellent point. but I was not only talking about USA compared to rest of World, althought that was part of it. It was however more directed to USA year over year getting worse compared to USA last year, and the BOE getting 10% more money than they got last year.

You specifically referred to "USA was #1 in education". Trying to move the goalposts on me again, Scotty?

My point is quite simple....
WHERES THE BEEF?
It seems nobody even wants to look at the results, but rather support/oppose based on politics? hmm, maybe that is a part of the problem?

Where did I support/oppose "based on politics"? In fact, I would go so far as to say that YOUR assertion was "based on politics" far more than mine was.

I have only asked on thing.....RESULTS
you did not adress it and are trying to do the very thing you accused me of. Everything else inbetween that original question was talking to other people about other things who also avoided the question.
WHERES THE BEEF (ie, bring your BOE track record with you)

Your tap-dancing skills are actually degrading. Must be old age setting in.

[Phatscotty]

the mere simplicity of the question being avoided shows who is the true taint tapper. What are the results of the board of Education? I know you are avoiding it because the results are undefendable. The silly fact is that if you cant except the reality of the spending problems, you can not, IMO, validly debate the issue, with myself being nvolved anyways. I walk away.

my thread. my question that started this whole conversation. I ranted on the BOE . You brought a good point to the discussion. I dont really see anything to talk about after that, except you did not address the results, which is what started the conversation.

[rockfist]

First, cut half Congressional and Senatorial salaries, and make them pay 50% of their platinum health care plan.

+1

[Phatscotty]

billions for public jungle gyms in the name of saving trillions in health care costs due to the supposed the health benefits of playing on the jungle gym until you get bored with it 5 minutes later

[Woodruff]

the mere simplicity of the question being avoided shows who is the true taint tapper. What are the results of the board of Education? I know you are avoiding it because the results are undefendable.

You misspelled "irrelevant" (due to the reasons I named above). But keep dancing! Maybe throw some more sawdust on the floor, and you can do a soft-shoe, because your taps appear to be REALLY worn out...they're failing badly.

[Phatscotty]

the mere simplicity of the question being avoided shows who is the true taint tapper. What are the results of the board of Education? I know you are avoiding it because the results are undefendable.

You misspelled "irrelevant" (due to the reasons I named above). But keep dancing! Maybe throw some more sawdust on the floor, and you can do a soft-shoe, because your taps appear to be REALLY worn out...they're failing badly.

ah. this old misspell. the irony of your accusations continue to astonish

[Woodruff]

the mere simplicity of the question being avoided shows who is the true taint tapper. What are the results of the board of Education? I know you are avoiding it because the results are undefendable.

You misspelled "irrelevant" (due to the reasons I named above). But keep dancing! Maybe throw some more sawdust on the floor, and you can do a soft-shoe, because your taps appear to be REALLY worn out...they're failing badly.

ah. this old misspell. the irony of your accusations continue to astonish

Pathetic how in almost every thread, you devolve into stonewalling and avoidance. You must really feel pathetic about yourself. You certainly should, anyway, given your utter lack of confidence.

[Phatscotty]

the mere simplicity of the question being avoided shows who is the true taint tapper. What are the results of the board of Education? I know you are avoiding it because the results are undefendable.

You misspelled "irrelevant" (due to the reasons I named above). But keep dancing! Maybe throw some more sawdust on the floor, and you can do a soft-shoe, because your taps appear to be REALLY worn out...they're failing badly.

ah. this old misspell. the irony of your accusations continue to astonish

Pathetic how in almost every thread, you devolve into stonewalling and avoidance. You must really feel pathetic about yourself. You certainly should, anyway, given your utter lack of confidence.

asking a question is stonewalling? i think stonewalling when asked a question is stonewalling.

[Woodruff]

the mere simplicity of the question being avoided shows who is the true taint tapper. What are the results of the board of Education? I know you are avoiding it because the results are undefendable.

You misspelled "irrelevant" (due to the reasons I named above). But keep dancing! Maybe throw some more sawdust on the floor, and you can do a soft-shoe, because your taps appear to be REALLY worn out...they're failing badly.

ah. this old misspell. the irony of your accusations continue to astonish

Pathetic how in almost every thread, you devolve into stonewalling and avoidance. You must really feel pathetic about yourself. You certainly should, anyway, given your utter lack of confidence.

asking a question is stonewalling? i think stonewalling when asked a question is stonewalling.

You're so cute when you're being pathetic.

[Phatscotty]

Cut education 100%

[Woodruff]

Cut education 100%

Yes, it would be much better to have a school system like we can find currently in Afghanistan. Great idea.

[Phatscotty]

Cut education 100%

Yes, it would be much better to have a school system like we can find currently in Afghanistan. Great idea.

Oh, so there are Zero options between US education as it is now and Afghanistan...REALLY?

Now that is an intelligent statement....

[Woodruff]

Cut education 100%

Yes, it would be much better to have a school system like we can find currently in Afghanistan. Great idea.

Oh, so there are Zero options between US education as it is now and Afghanistan...REALLY?
Now that is an intelligent statement....

You want to cut education 100%. That would equate to zero education. That is what we currently have in Afghanistan.

You were saying?

[Phatscotty]

Cut education 100%

Yes, it would be much better to have a school system like we can find currently in Afghanistan. Great idea.

Oh, so there are Zero options between US education as it is now and Afghanistan...REALLY?
Now that is an intelligent statement....

You want to cut education 100%. That would equate to zero education. That is what we currently have in Afghanistan.

You were saying?

refine....cut 100% federal/50%state level. They cannot spend the money properly, stop letting them spend it. you may of course, jump straight to the conclusion that means I am arguing for pure anarchy........Dont be a poo poo head. Of course, we can handle education the way we always have handled it. The most recent failure in US education was just a social experiment that failed. Let's admit this failure first, only then can we start talking about what will succeed.

[Baron Von PWN]

Cut education 100%

Yes, it would be much better to have a school system like we can find currently in Afghanistan. Great idea.

Oh, so there are Zero options between US education as it is now and Afghanistan...REALLY?
Now that is an intelligent statement....

You want to cut education 100%. That would equate to zero education. That is what we currently have in Afghanistan.

You were saying?

refine....cut 100% federal/50%state level. They cannot spend the money properly, stop letting them spend it. you may of course, jump straight to the conclusion that means I am arguing for pure anarchy........Dont be a poo poo head. Of course, we can handle education the way we always have handled it. The most recent failure in US education was just a social experiment that failed. Let's admit this failure first, only then can we start talking about what will succeed.

The private sector would just step in and fill in the gap overnight would it? It would amount to a lost generation of uneducated Americans and even when the private sector eventually filled the gap you would have a sector of the population without access to education, the poor would be shut out of any real chance of advancement . This must be the dumbest and most callous idea I've seen you propose so far.

[Phatscotty]

Yes, it would be much better to have a school system like we can find currently in Afghanistan. Great idea.

Oh, so there are Zero options between US education as it is now and Afghanistan...REALLY?
Now that is an intelligent statement....

You want to cut education 100%. That would equate to zero education. That is what we currently have in Afghanistan.

You were saying?

refine....cut 100% federal/50%state level. They cannot spend the money properly, stop letting them spend it. you may of course, jump straight to the conclusion that means I am arguing for pure anarchy........Dont be a poo poo head. Of course, we can handle education the way we always have handled it. The most recent failure in US education was just a social experiment that failed. Let's admit this failure first, only then can we start talking about what will succeed.

The private sector would just step in and fill in the gap overnight would it? It would amount to a lost generation of uneducated Americans and even when the private sector eventually filled the gap you would have a sector of the population without access to education, the poor would be shut out of any real chance of advancement . This must be the dumbest and most callous idea I've seen you propose so far.

I'm pretty sure it would take longer than 1 day, but yes, the students would show up at school tomorrow, same place, same time..... Let's use our heads here. I pre-emptively addressed the concerns of people exactly like you with my "pure anarchism" statement.

also, I am sure the private sector is not the only option. more head using....

it's only the dumbest most callous idea you've ever seen because you only have your own ideas to plug in, and then take your own line of thinking, as to think that is the only way possible, and also plug in your own warped conclusions. That's the only reason it's dumb and callous. Your imaginary example was nowhere near the top of the list of possibilities. the idea you provided about the private sector stepping is is dumb and callous. you should not assume I was talking about the private sector. I also addressed this specifically, 2 posts earlier, with a comment "the way we always did it before, before income taxes, beforedepartment of education. I know I am wasting my time, but I have a hard time not picking such low hanging fruit.