Crippled by the recession, Californians who are worried about a number of issues -- from higher taxes to the environment
With massive unemployment, a state in serious financial trouble, people fleeing the state in record numbers etc, they are worried about THE ENVIRONMENT and higher taxes? Seriously? Aren't there bigger/more important things to worry about? Isn't it this thinking of Californians that has led them to the troubles they are in now? Why aren't they worried about the massive uncontrollable unsustainable spending that has led them to self-destruction, and the NEED for higher taxes? Are they really this stupid and short sighted they can't even realize that out of control spending must lead to higher taxes? The more money you spend, the more money you need to collect? Is it really this hard to understand? Their logic train is only 1 step long "we are out of money, and need higher taxes" and then can't make it to the next step of "the reason we are out of money is because we are spending too much"?
Last edited by bedub1 on Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
wow, lets all worry about money instead o' the environment... yea....... real smart idea genius. then you can be just fine, and your kids' kids can suffer... hey if we don use up all the resources the next generation will, right ? give me a break..
Aba wrote:wow, lets all worry about money instead o' the environment... yea....... real smart idea genius. then you can be just fine, and your kids' kids can suffer... hey if we don use up all the resources the next generation will, right ? give me a break..
If we all run out of money, and our state falls apart, how will we ever manage to protect the environment?
Aba wrote:wow, lets all worry about money instead o' the environment... yea....... real smart idea genius. then you can be just fine, and your kids' kids can suffer... hey if we don use up all the resources the next generation will, right ? give me a break..
hmm, well, if you dont have money and you dont have jobs .....yeah I guess you can convince everyone the environment comes first. I'm sure the wife and children will understand....
Does the EPA still accept Califnoria IOU's???? Cuz that is what California is giving tax returns in......You know how bad that hurts the environment to force the gonvernment to print up IOU's? really, there is more to be considered than just the face value
Why doesn't the gov. Just bail them out too they did for a lot of failing industrys. I can't imagine that every californian is worried about the environment.
alex951 wrote:Why doesn't the gov. Just bail them out too they did for a lot of failing industrys. I can't imagine that every californian is worried about the environment.
California's Government can't bail out California. Only the people of California can bail out California. Why should another state pay for all of California's mistakes and messups and overspending etc? By that logic I should just buy $1,000,000,000 worth of crap and services and massages etc and then let you bail me out of debt.
alex951 wrote:Why doesn't the gov. Just bail them out too they did for a lot of failing industrys. I can't imagine that every californian is worried about the environment.
we're fucked
Fine! fine! f*ck it let's just print a bunch of money and nobody has to take responsibility. I can't believe we are really doing this. Our children will not forgive us...
Crippled by the recession, Californians who are worried about a number of issues -- from higher taxes to the environment
With massive unemployment, a state in serious financial trouble, people fleeing the state in record numbers etc, they are worried about THE ENVIRONMENT and higher taxes? Seriously? Aren't there bigger/more important things to worry about? Isn't it this thinking of Californians that has led them to the troubles they are in now? Why aren't they worried about the massive uncontrollable unsustainable spending that has led them to self-destruction, and the NEED for higher taxes? Are they really this stupid and short sighted they can't even realize that out of control spending must lead to higher taxes? The more money you spend, the more money you need to collect? Is it really this hard to understand? Their logic train is only 1 step long "we are out of money, and need higher taxes" and then can't make it to the next step of "the reason we are out of money is because we are spending too much"?
At least they know how to spell "Californians".
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
Phatscotty wrote:
Does the EPA still accept Califnoria IOU's???? Cuz that is what California is giving tax returns in...
Check your facts. That was last year.
I (and everyone else I know) got my return this year immediately.
yes, I am aware it was last year. Are you aware that it's april 17th, and the majority of tax returns are just being recieved all at once? Oh yeah, I heard California has a bunch of money just sitting there waiting for tax returns. Do we really need to wait and see how this turns out? or can we start allowing educated guesses?
That will be 327 IOU's sir
Last edited by Phatscotty on Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:39 pm, edited 2 times in total.
We should start selling Mexicans. They reproduce like fruit flies! They're in ample supply.
I'm not at all surprised you'd be interested in slavery.
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
Woodruff wrote:I'm not at all surprised you'd be interested in slavery.
It’s only slavery if you force them to work for you. If you purchase them with the expectations that they will do nothing but vote for you it is called welfare.
Woodruff wrote:I'm not at all surprised you'd be interested in slavery.
It’s only slavery if you force them to work for you. If you purchase them with the expectations that they will do nothing but vote for you it is called welfare.
1) Your first statement is a lie.
2) I'm not at all surprised that you would try to defend Kid_A's idiotic statement.
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
Aba wrote:wow, lets all worry about money instead o' the environment... yea....... real smart idea genius. then you can be just fine, and your kids' kids can suffer... hey if we don use up all the resources the next generation will, right ? give me a break..
If we all run out of money, and our state falls apart, how will we ever manage to protect the environment?
News flash for you - it takes money to f*ck up the environment. If there's no money then there's no need to protect the environment.
Woodruff wrote:I'm not at all surprised you'd be interested in slavery.
It’s only slavery if you force them to work for you. If you purchase them with the expectations that they will do nothing but vote for you it is called welfare.
1) Your first statement is a lie.
2) I'm not at all surprised that you would try to defend Kid_A's idiotic statement.
Slavery (also called thralldom) is a form of forced labour in which people are considered to be the property of others. Slaves can be held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to demand wages.
2) I'm not; I'm just annoying the hell out of you.