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InkL0sed wrote:
Just thought you might want to know.
Woodruff wrote:InkL0sed wrote:
Just thought you might want to know.
As Lionz mentions, this completely removes the concept of free will from the equation. Free will is obviously a very important concept and any statement that removes it from the equation is necessarily faulty.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
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MeDeFe wrote:Please define "free will", I can tell you, it is not an easy task. Your claim that any statement that removes it from the equation must be faulty is... well, faulty. First you need to demonstrate that free will, however you have defined it, exists, and even if you were to manage that it is entirely possible that it will have no bearing whatsoever on the argument.
Iliad wrote:Suppose you see lawnmower is slowly coming towards an incapacitated person: can't walk yet, lost ability to walk, doesn't really matter. The details don't really matter but the situation is that a person is about to die. You could stop it easily, turn it off, slightly turn it away and the life is saved. If you just walk past and let the person die you will rightly be seen as a monster. So I can safely assume we both agree on this.
So why is it if a person does this and so causes a death, a death he or she could've saved without any risk to himself, without any real interruption to his life, one clearly within his power to save, we can both agree and condemn him but if it's your god you have to try and make excuses for him?
Let's say the lawnmower in question is being driven by let's say an infant so there's no risk to the person walking past if he tries to stop him. Would him not stopping the lawnmower now be morally excusable as there's the free will of the driver to consider? no he still lets a murder happen and one that he could've stopped. However because he's your god you have to try and make excuses about 'mysterious ways' and so on.
joecoolfrog wrote:Free will is a flawed concept , only a tiny percentage of mankind has ever had the resources or knowledge to act or think in anything other than a strictly limited fashion.
InkL0sed wrote:
Just thought you might want to know.
Haggis_McMutton wrote:2. Anyone else find it kind of funny that naxus is NK'd right after insisting that we're all paranoid?
Snorri1234 wrote:How does free will explain babies dying?
Haggis_McMutton wrote:2. Anyone else find it kind of funny that naxus is NK'd right after insisting that we're all paranoid?
Phatscotty wrote:why do atheists think that since God does not seem to magically micromanage every single aspect of said atheist's life, therefore there can not be a god and they know this.....
Snorri1234 wrote:How does free will explain babies dying?
Lionz wrote:Can destiny and free will not exist simultaneously if there is a time travelling intelligent being who can step in at various points in time and alter things?
Haggis_McMutton wrote:2. Anyone else find it kind of funny that naxus is NK'd right after insisting that we're all paranoid?
Snorri1234 wrote:How does free will explain babies dying?
naxus wrote:But the argument mostly depends on what you believe in.If you believe in "Fate" or "Gods Plan" then your belief of free will is wrong as it is nonexesistent in God's Plan.
However if you believe in Free Will then you believe that God has allowed and almost encourages evil and evil actions.
Phatscotty wrote:Ah, the human mind struggles to understand that which is un-understandable, whilst simultaneously speaking as if they have it all figured out.
This thread made my day
Phatscotty wrote:why do atheists think that since God does not seem to magically micromanage every single aspect of said atheist's life, therefore there can not be a god and they know this.....
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