German Films (Made by Germans)

[BigBallinStalin]

I've seen:

Tin Drum
Run Lola Run
Das Leben Der Anderen (lol, nice chat, fellas)
Goodbye, Lenin!
Triumph of the Will (Skipped through a good bit of it)
and I'm probably forgetting a few others.


I'd like some recommendations!

Comedy, Drama, Mystery, whatever!

(Honestly, I'm tired of bumping into "Jewish Beatdown followed by Guilt-Trip" Films #1, #2, #3, up to #9992334, for example, Shindler's List. That's what I'm talking about. None of that please, seen enough---UNLESS it's extremely good or extremely interesting and different.)

[MeDeFe]

If you're not averse to combining comedy and drama I can recommend a few.

Knockin' on Heaven's Door is a good one with 2 terminally ill cancer patients, one million in a suitcase and a stolen car.

Herr Lehmann. I don't know how well you speak German, a constantly returning theme is the contrasting uses of polite and personal forms of address that don't exist in English. It might not be crucial for enjoying the movie, but you'll be missing out if you don't catch the nuances.



One I haven't seen myself but which I hear is quite good is Gegen die Wand.

[BigBallinStalin]

Thank you MeDeFe, I'll be checking all those out. I'll have my crew scan the Cyber Seas for those immediately!

Anyone else out there?

[saxitoxin]

I've seen:

Tin Drum
Run Lola Run
Das Leben Der Anderen (lol, nice chat, fellas)
Goodbye, Lenin!
Triumph of the Will (Skipped through a good bit of it)
and I'm probably forgetting a few others.

These are not good examples of German cinema, Triumph des Willens and Goodbye Lenin are particularly bad.

Saxi recommends:

- Die Legende von Paul und Paula (warning: you *will* cry)
- Mama, Ich Lebe
- Rottenknechte ... hard to find this one, it was a TV special but a great action-adventure film if you like that genre!

[BigBallinStalin]

I'm down for any film of any decent genre.

[muy_thaiguy]

Inglorious Bastards? Puts a new twist on WWII on the European front.

[Juan_Bottom]

Ok, now we'll just see about taste. These appear in order of awesomeness.

Metropolis, 1927 directed by Fritz Lang.

Nosferatu, 1922 directed by F.W. Murnau

Die Büchse der Pandora, 1929 directed by G.W. Pabst

Das Cabinet des Dr. Caligar, 1920 directed by Robert Wiene

Der letzte Mann,1924 directed by F.W. Murnau

Faust, 1926 directed by F.W. Murnau

Das Tagebuch einer Verlorenen, 1929 directed by G.W. Pabst

Die Freudlose Gasse, 1924 directed by G.W. Pabst

Variété, 1925 directed by E.A. Dupont

[saxitoxin]

Ok, now we'll just see about taste. These appear in order of awesomeness.

Metropolis, 1927 directed by Fritz Lang.

Nosferatu, 1922 directed by F.W. Murnau

Die Büchse der Pandora, 1929 directed by G.W. Pabst

Das Cabinet des Dr. Caligar, 1920 directed by Robert Wiene

Der letzte Mann,1924 directed by F.W. Murnau

Faust, 1926 directed by F.W. Murnau

Das Tagebuch einer Verlorenen, 1929 directed by G.W. Pabst

Die Freudlose Gasse, 1924 directed by G.W. Pabst

Variété, 1925 directed by E.A. Dupont

Hey, JB! *SAXI WAVES AT JB*

You are a man of culture and good taste! Great list!

[Frito Bandito]

What about Das Boot?

[InkL0sed]

Jud Suss

[nietzsche]

Is it truth that you'll find movies about jews in concentration camps in the Comedy section in Germany?

[Juan_Bottom]

Hey, JB! *SAXI WAVES AT JB*

You are a man of culture and good taste! Great list!

Hey Saxiii! *JB WAVES AT SAXI*

You're a cool dude! I thought I was the only one who would know even one film on that list! Everyone should listen to you more!
Hi-Five Saxi!

[MeDeFe]

Jud Suss

From a historical perspective or for a student of cinematography it may be quite interesting. One should especially pay attention to what the jew is doing in the movie, and what the nazis were doing in reality at the time when it was produced.

[Juan_Bottom]

Jud Süß...

I have never found this film for purchase for under $30. And no one has it for rental 'round here. I'm not sure I'd dig propaganda film though?

[saxitoxin]

Is it truth that you'll find movies about jews in concentration camps in the Comedy section in Germany?

It is not truth.

Long before Liev Shriever made his version, there was a German production of Jakob the Liar which - as you know - was originally a book about the '40's-era holocaust that was perpetrated against Socialists, Jews, Roma and Homosexuals by the British-backed Nazi crime syndicate. This iteration was produced by DDR state film company.

DDR also produced many wild west adventures, however, in contrast to American "westerns" and Italian "spaghetti westerns" the DDR films always portrayed the Native-Americans as the heroes and the cowboys as the villains, which means that DDR films and media - generally speaking - were truer to fact while western film and media was/is - generally speaking - mere propaganda.

That said, these days, in the Fascist Republic of Germany I would not be surprised if holocaust films appear in the comedy section. That is the reality of the amoral, stinking capitalist armpit that is the FRG. (However, I can't say that with veracity as it's been 20 years since I've been in Germany due to a legal misunderstanding.)

[nietzsche]

Is it truth that you'll find movies about jews in concentration camps in the Comedy section in Germany?

It is not truth.

but.. but Kid_A told me so

[BigBallinStalin]

So far so good, fellas.

And I've got enough for awhile, but feel free to contribute anything special.

(Inglorious Basterds? *facepalm)

[Juan_Bottom]

I forgot about The Golem. Another silent picture.

[BigBallinStalin]

What was that silent film from the 1930s about this guy running around town trying to solve this murder case, and then wakes up in the insane asylum?

[lgoasklucyl]

M (1931)
One of the better Lang movies. Must see.

Nosferatu: Phantom der Nactht (1979)
Warner Herzog's remake of the classic. Pretty much scene for scene, and definitely a great adaptation.

Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes (1972)
'Nuff said

Das Boot (1981)
Wolfgang Peterson, 'war' flick. One of (if not the) greatest movies made about life on a U-boat. Some of the best psychology in film.

Fitzcarraldo (1982)
More Herzog, I've got a thing

Der Himmel über Berlin (1987)
Wings of Desire. Pretty solid romance'esque film.

[MeDeFe]

Is it truth that you'll find movies about jews in concentration camps in the Comedy section in Germany?

It is not truth.

Long before Liev Shriever made his version, there was a German production of Jakob the Liar which - as you know - was originally a book about the '40's-era holocaust that was perpetrated against Socialists, Jews, Roma and Homosexuals by the British-backed Nazi crime syndicate. This iteration was produced by DDR state film company.

DDR also produced many wild west adventures, however, in contrast to American "westerns" and Italian "spaghetti westerns" the DDR films always portrayed the Native-Americans as the heroes and the cowboys as the villains, which means that DDR films and media - generally speaking - were truer to fact while western film and media was/is - generally speaking - mere propaganda.

That said, these days, in the Fascist Republic of Germany I would not be surprised if holocaust films appear in the comedy section. That is the reality of the amoral, stinking capitalist armpit that is the FRG. (However, I can't say that with veracity as it's been 20 years since I've been in Germany due to a legal misunderstanding.)

As a resident of the FRG, allow me to allay your worries. Films about the holocaust are not generally considered comedy, with the possible exception of La vita è bella since it contains some humourous scenes, but that movie was made by Italians and no artistic responsibility for it can be laid at Germany's metaphorical doorstep.

[BigBallinStalin]

For the Germans: (answer whatever as you please, if any at all)

How do you Germans feel while watching one of those holocaust movies?

What typical emotions go through you about that entire ordeal? Is it embarrassing or just long-gone history or.. what?

It seems the world (really the Western world) doesn't want the German people to forget what happened in WW2. The world's most intense and prolonged and still ongoing guilt-trip.

I forgot the word, but I remember during my German studies of running into a German word that described that notion of guilt/never letting one forget about the past. Nice long German word! can't recall it though =(

[saxitoxin]

For the Germans: (answer whatever as you please, if any at all)

How do you Germans feel while watching one of those holocaust movies?

What typical emotions go through you about that entire ordeal? Is it embarrassing or just long-gone history or.. what?

I don't know why Germans would be embarrassed? Germans weren't responsible for the holocaust. The holocaust was perpetrated by an organized crime syndicate (the so-called Nazis) backed by the UK, in which a small number of Germans held leadership positions. Germans were as much victims of this western-backed crime syndicate as anyone. The great German hero Ernst Thälmann was one of the many, many Germans killed in the concentration camps operated by the UK-backed Nazi crime syndicate.

The most reprehensible crime, of course, was for the western powers to allow the remnant fascist sector of Germany to take control of the free and peaceful democratic sector of Germany in the 1989 anschluss. The past is doomed to repeat itself as long as the nuclear-armed, warmongering neo-fascist FRG regime is allowed to continue. You should read "Die deutsche Karte" (it's only available in German and Russian - I hope one day it will be translated into English so that Americans and Britishers can read it) which is written by Gen. Komossa, one of the former heads of the FRG Secret Police during the '70's and '80's, for more on these fundamental truisms.

For Peace and Socialism!
- Saxi

[saxitoxin]

As a resident of the FRG, allow me to allay your worries. Films about the holocaust are not generally considered comedy, with the possible exception of La vita è bella since it contains some humourous scenes, but that movie was made by Italians and no artistic responsibility for it can be laid at Germany's metaphorical doorstep.

I'm glad to hear the Fascist Republic of Germany regime maintains at least the outward appearance of decency. This is a stark contrast to their warmongering, revisionist behavior of the last 60 years.

[DAZMCFC]

The Experiment.

a load of German celebrities are put in a prison, some as gaurds and some as inmates. tensions rise and then. you'll have to watch.