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tornado alley

Postby top banana on Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:08 am

hey,how about someone(with far more intell than me) making a map of tornado alley?
you could have 3 or 4 tornado's on the map.you can only attack from the top of tornado to the state below.
so you would have to defend the states,fight your way to top of tornado,and after every round the bottom ot tornado random shifts to another state.or something like that.
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Re: tornado alley

Postby Evil DIMwit on Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:19 am

I'm not sure quite what you have in mind for gameplay but the general region is covered by a somewhat different map already.
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Re: tornado alley

Postby MarshalNey on Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:16 pm

True, but I must put the caveat that the Tornado Alley region is actually shifted about 350 miles east... including Iowa, Missouri, northern Arkansas and southern Illinois, and omitting Colorado and New Mexico
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Re: tornado alley

Postby Evil DIMwit on Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:57 pm

I was going off of this:
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Re: tornado alley

Postby MarshalNey on Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:50 pm

Questionable data. At least in laymen's language, and in practice, tornadoes are common in Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, Oklahoma and Nebraska. Don't know about New Mexico but considering the population spread I can't see as that would be a very observable phenomenon. Same for S. Dakota. As for Colorado... ever hear of a Colorado twister? Me neither. Not saying it doesn't happen, it just doesn't fit what I've always thought of (and lived through) as Tornado Alley

Anyway, this is me speaking from growing up in what the local media at least calls Tornado Alley. And the fact that a tornado took the roof off of my middle school in 4th grade, and another demolished a friend's house in high school, I find it hard to argue. Tornado touchdowns and 'alerts' are a seasonal occurence in the heart of the Midwest. I've lived all across Missouri and in central Kansas (as well as Seattle), and frequently visited Nebraska and southern Illinois.

Where did you get that info? It looks maybe accurate for summer (like now) but definitely junk for spring, when most tornadoes occur.
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Re: tornado alley

Postby natty dread on Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:32 pm

Funny, I've always thought it was called "tornado valley". Live and learn...
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Re: tornado alley

Postby Evil DIMwit on Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:14 pm

That's straight off Wikipedia, so take it up with them.
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Re: tornado alley

Postby MarshalNey on Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:43 pm

Hmph, I was afraid you'd say that. Wikipedia people are hard to get a hold of, and even harder to convince. They really remind me more and more lately of an insurance company... "SOP is to deny all claims no matter the circumstance. If they hassle you, bump them to another representative..."

Anyway, from someone who actually lives in the Midwest, Tornado Alley should be at the very least extended, if not shifted approximately 350 miles east.

EDIT: Okay I checked out the Wiki article and it's actually not complete fiction as I feared. That map that Evil D showed is pretty junky, but they have another one below it (ironically enough) that shows a much more accurate depiction based upon actual reported tornados (or maybe measured? There is a big difference, sadly) rather than made-upish metereological guesswork.

Here's a decent map of Tornado Alley from wikipedia:
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As you can see, New Mexico doesn't have any reported significant tornadoes, and Colorado has very few. The Dakotas as a region are also non-contenders, even though the article muddles around the definition so much that one might be inclined to include it.

In fact, Tornado Alley covers nearly the entire Midwest from Kansas to Ohio, except for the northernmost parts near Canada. It also covers the heart of the Deep South. Nothing in the West, however, or New England.

I should've known about Kentucky, I have a cousin there and now that I think about it they've suffered through some tornadoes that have left them without power for days at a time.

Louisana and Alabama are the only real surprises to me, I didn't know that they got tornadoes that far south... I thought they just got hurricanes.

Anyway, the article is pretty lousy overall as a source of information; the only real thing that one can glean is that the author(s) feel that there is no consensus definition (thanks, guys). This about a phenomenon that has a goo-gob of solid regional scientific data sitting around (despite the rather existential definition that meterologists use for a tornado). The author just shakes his head and says, "well, shucks... there's no official definition, and different media yahoos say different stuff... guess we're outta luck." Can we say lazy writing?

If you want to find info on Tornado Alley, carl, I'd look elsewhere, or use the map I posted as it's about the only worthwhile thing from the article.
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Re: tornado alley

Postby RjBeals on Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:35 pm

how would it play different than dustbowl really? You've got to make sure it's unique.
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Re: tornado alley

Postby shocked439 on Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:51 pm

colorado doesn't have many severe tornados but it gets them, and a lot of them actually.

to make the map a little different from dust bowl you could expand it out to be a world wide map. Have typhoons in the pacific, hurricanes in the atlantic, tornado alley, barren dessert, blizzards. incorporate all different sever weather as starting points. using the rotaton of storms in different parts of the word you could move out from the eye of each storm to capture territories.

You could incorporate the NOAA sites around the world as bonuses.

just a thought
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Re: tornado alley

Postby RjBeals on Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:36 am

then it wouldn't be tornado alley anymore. It would be the severe weather map.
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Re: tornado alley

Postby MarshalNey on Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:18 pm

It's still not a bad way to go... no need to reject an idea just because it doesn't rigidly conform to the thread title.

After all, brainstorming is good ;)
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Re: tornado alley

Postby RjBeals on Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:42 pm

by all means, but I sort of liked the tornado theme.
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