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joecoolfrog wrote:It all comes down to perception, people will read into things that which they want to believe.
What you need to ask yourself is whether a larger percentage of citizens are today greviously discriminated against solely because of the colour of their skin, I would venture this is not so.























got tonkaed wrote:When correlation does not imply causation, it is often because the results fail to occur within reasonable context. For instance, if I were to argue that shoe size equated to intelligence, I would rightly be rebuffed as when we age and our feet continue to grow, we continue to develop critical thinking skills which allow us to show intelligence in a variety of ways. Thus the simplistic idea that just because one's shoe size grows, one becomes more intelligent is rather silly.
Now I could venture a guess, that for a variety of those issues that were listed in the op, you could find context in which claims of racism could be justified. It is not difficult to see why portraying Obama as a monkey may have a differnet connotation than in other instances. Nor is it diffcult to see a contextual difference between immigration differences in Arizona policy.
The nebulous thing behind all of these areas is the issue of intent. And while it is easy to find people who are racist in both of the situations listed above, there are quite probably people who are not. But when we assume context is generalized, which many of those contexts could be, it is not hard to posit that people who consistently find themselves with positions that are contexutally defined to be racist, might actually be in fact, racist.




















thegreekdog wrote:got tonkaed wrote:When correlation does not imply causation, it is often because the results fail to occur within reasonable context. For instance, if I were to argue that shoe size equated to intelligence, I would rightly be rebuffed as when we age and our feet continue to grow, we continue to develop critical thinking skills which allow us to show intelligence in a variety of ways. Thus the simplistic idea that just because one's shoe size grows, one becomes more intelligent is rather silly.
Now I could venture a guess, that for a variety of those issues that were listed in the op, you could find context in which claims of racism could be justified. It is not difficult to see why portraying Obama as a monkey may have a differnet connotation than in other instances. Nor is it diffcult to see a contextual difference between immigration differences in Arizona policy.
The nebulous thing behind all of these areas is the issue of intent. And while it is easy to find people who are racist in both of the situations listed above, there are quite probably people who are not. But when we assume context is generalized, which many of those contexts could be, it is not hard to posit that people who consistently find themselves with positions that are contexutally defined to be racist, might actually be in fact, racist.
Seriously... you're missed around here.
















































ViperOverLord wrote:It's less about racism than it is about the race card. That's all I gots to say. You feelin me?














































got tonkaed wrote:id say if anything there was a small call to action to make sure children learn basic swimming skills.






mviola wrote:This looks like another racism thread is about to start.


















danes wrote:I guess i shouldn't have learned to swim either because my grandpa didn't know how?
Great excuses. Seriously though, if your kids don't know how to swim, maybe you shouldn't take them to the river? I know how to swim, but because rivers are so unpredictable, often times I'll bring a life jacket anyways. Just seems like a better idea.

























jonesthecurl wrote:In the UK, there are very few open-air pools, because the weather seldom permits outdoor swimming. One result of this is that every area has indoor, heated pools, open to the public.






HapSmo19 wrote:jonesthecurl wrote:In the UK, there are very few open-air pools, because the weather seldom permits outdoor swimming. One result of this is that every area has indoor, heated pools, open to the public.
Aren't those segregated now?



















jonesthecurl wrote:Yes. Non-swimmers have to stay in the shallow end.












jonesthecurl wrote:HapSmo19 wrote:jonesthecurl wrote:In the UK, there are very few open-air pools, because the weather seldom permits outdoor swimming. One result of this is that every area has indoor, heated pools, open to the public.
Aren't those segregated now?
Yes. Non-swimmers have to stay in the shallow end.



















HapSmo19 wrote:Back on topic:
Maybe the guns in the waistbands of their speedos weighed em' down.
Or their pants drooping down around their knees kept em from treading water.
Oh shit. I'm actually gonna hit 'submit'......



















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