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Black Republicans offer hope after Barack Obama's failures

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:12 pm

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10/06/2010

Is Black Support for Obama Racist?


With poverty rates at an all-time high, black unemployment numbers at daunting levels, and Obamacare bringing no change on killing black babies, stunningly, black support for Obama is up.

In fact, black approval of President Obama is virtually unchanged at 91 percent since his inauguration.

Now, unless we believe that 91 percent of blacks are truly as radical as Obama (and every indication is that blacks are far more conservative than he is), then what explains how Obama could have 91% approval, when even among Democrats as a whole, that number is lower at just 79 percent?
Worse, black poverty is higher now than under President Bush.

In fact, during the Bush years, black unemployment was actually lower than during Clinton’s terms (you know, "the first black president"), at an average of 9 percent and certainly lower than the 16.3 percent it stands at today.

Indeed, under Obama, black unemployment rose from 12.6 in January 2010 to 16.3 percent as of August 1 2010. An almost 30 percent increase.

So far, President Bush has a better track record on black upward mobility than Clinton or Obama.

Regardless, Bush only enjoyed an average of about 32 percent approval amongst black voters two years into his first term. And we haven't even mentioned Bush’s historic cabinet level appointments of blacks or his unprecedented AIDS funding in Africa. Much to Kanye West’s chagrin, it turns out President Bush did, indeed, care about black people.

Still, some argue that black support of Obama is merely a function of "black solidarity”; that birds of a feather flock together. But that in itself is racist. After all, can you imagine white voters lining up 9 out of 10 to stand in "racial solidarity" with an elected official who was the equivalent of a wrecking ball slamming through their lives?

After nearly two years of Obama’s reckless spending spree, (John Keynes would be proud), 43.6 million Americans - one in seven people - now live in poverty, a 51-year high.

Looking deeper, these figures show that blacks, who account for only 13 percent of the population, make up 22.6 percent of the now 40.5 million Americans receiving benefits from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Food Stamps).

And after a year-long debate and an endless barrage of promises from the Obama White House that there would be no federal funding of abortions in the healthcare bill, we now know that tax dollars for abortions are being provided through high-risk insurance programs and have already been stopped in Pennsylvania, New Mexico and Maryland.

When political parties know that they no longer have to work for your vote, and that support from any voting bloc is automatic regardless of performance, those voters have relegated themselves to playing the role of perpetual dupe. Put simply, they are begging to be taken for granted.

Is it any wonder, then, that 50 years of black voters conceding 90 percent of their support to a party with a racist past has culminated in an anti-empowerment agenda that has sapped black Americans from achieving our maximum potential by creating a culture of dependency?

When Uncle Sam is your “baby daddy,” is it any wonder that so many inner city children chose gang life over graduation? Or that in just four days, more black children die at the hands of the abortion clinic then the KKK killed in its entire history?

Progressives and Democratic elites have long argued that black stagnation is the result of racism. But is a 70 percent illegitimacy rate among blacks (90 percent in some inner cities) the fault of “racism,” or a lack of accountability and personal responsibility?

The painful truth is that blacks kill more blacks (whether by gun or by a trip to the abortion clinic) at a higher rate than the Ku Klux Klan could have ever dreamed of.

So-called “civil rights leaders,” pseudo intellectuals, and progressive lawmakers are fully aware of these facts, yet they insist on pretending that “systemic” forces (racism) are more responsible than blacks themselves for sluggish black advancement.

It’s time for a frank discussion about the folly of monolithic voting among black Americans. When 91 percent of any racial group votes one way, it’s either out of racism or blind groupthink. Neither of these is good for America.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby Timminz on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:30 pm

tl;dr

But, yes. Every black person who supports anything Obama ever said or did, is a total racist.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:36 pm

Timminz wrote:tl;dr

But, yes. Every black person who supports anything Obama ever said or did, is a total racist.


hey, with 91%, you can get away with the "every black person..." comment. of course, you still have time to read the entire article...I know you didnt
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby tkr4lf on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:38 pm

Timminz wrote:tl;dr

But, yes. Every black person who supports anything Obama ever said or did, is a total racist.

I have nothing to add to the conversation, I just have a question. I have seen this "tl;dr" all over these forums. What does it mean? I am not familiar with this particular internet slang. Anyone care to enlighten me?
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby Timminz on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:39 pm

too long; didn't read
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby tkr4lf on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:41 pm

Timminz wrote:too long; didn't read

Ah ok, that makes sense. I kept trying to figure it out, but no luck. Thanks Timminz.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby Timminz on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:42 pm

tkr4lf wrote:
Timminz wrote:too long; didn't read

Ah ok, that makes sense. I kept trying to figure it out, but no luck. Thanks Timminz.

No problem. In the future, there's this thing called googlers, or some such.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby tkr4lf on Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:43 pm

Timminz wrote:
tkr4lf wrote:
Timminz wrote:too long; didn't read

Ah ok, that makes sense. I kept trying to figure it out, but no luck. Thanks Timminz.

No problem. In the future, there's this thing called googlers, or some such.

Yeah, I had heard something about that, but theres this thing called laziness, and I seem to have a bad case of it. :D
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:09 pm

funny, I could tell you didnt read it without even knowing what that meant.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby greenoaks on Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:20 pm

blacks in america are racist

they refer to themselves by their race & location rather than their nationality
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby tkr4lf on Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:21 pm

Phatscotty wrote:funny, I could tell you didnt read it without even knowing what that meant.

You're talking to Timminz? Or me? Cuz I actually did read it. I just have no comment.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:33 pm

tkr4lf wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:funny, I could tell you didnt read it without even knowing what that meant.

You're talking to Timminz? Or me? Cuz I actually did read it. I just have no comment.

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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby Timminz on Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:43 pm

Oh, I lied when I said I didn't read it (though it was too long).
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:56 pm

The man makes a good point. Either it's "group solidarity" or "blind groupthink" that's responsible for their still 91% approval rating of Obama (assuming those sources are correct). Like I implied in another post that John is humping to death, there's this mentality that a man of similar skin color is like a savior, and the only choice.

Going on this guy's OP, (judging from employment levels) if blacks have done better under Clinton and Bush, why did white presidents receive such low approval ratings from the majority of blacks?
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby tkr4lf on Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:58 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:The man makes a good point. Either it's "group solidarity" or "blind groupthink" that's responsible for their still 91% approval rating of Obama (assuming those sources are correct). Like I implied in another post that John is humping to death, there's this mentality that a man of similar skin color is like a savior, and the only choice.

Going on this guy's OP, (judging from employment levels) if blacks have done better under Clinton and Bush, why did white presidents receive such low approval ratings from the majority of blacks?

Well, we've actually been discussing something similar in my US Government class. My teacher basically asserted that the main reason 95% of blacks vote Democrat (this is the figure from the textbook) is that going back to the civil rights era, it was mainly the politicians from the Democrat party that supported the civil rights era laws. It was mainly the politicians from the Republican party that supported the segregation and the status quo. So, that would explain partly why they stick so strongly with Obama. The other reason is simple, because we as a country finally have a black president. I think that they see that as a victory. And even if he does some things that they don't agree with, I think they feel that if they were to not support him, they would somehow be traitors to their race. Just my take on it.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby ViperOverLord on Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:12 am

tkr4lf wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:The man makes a good point. Either it's "group solidarity" or "blind groupthink" that's responsible for their still 91% approval rating of Obama (assuming those sources are correct). Like I implied in another post that John is humping to death, there's this mentality that a man of similar skin color is like a savior, and the only choice.

Going on this guy's OP, (judging from employment levels) if blacks have done better under Clinton and Bush, why did white presidents receive such low approval ratings from the majority of blacks?

Well, we've actually been discussing something similar in my US Government class. My teacher basically asserted that the main reason 95% of blacks vote Democrat (this is the figure from the textbook) is that going back to the civil rights era, it was mainly the politicians from the Democrat party that supported the civil rights era laws. It was mainly the politicians from the Republican party that supported the segregation and the status quo. So, that would explain partly why they stick so strongly with Obama. The other reason is simple, because we as a country finally have a black president. I think that they see that as a victory. And even if he does some things that they don't agree with, I think they feel that if they were to not support him, they would somehow be traitors to their race. Just my take on it.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

Kennedy tries to pass the bill:

"The bill was reported out of the Judiciary Committee in November 1963, and referred to the Rules Committee, whose chairman, Howard W. Smith, a Democrat and avid segregationist from Virginia, indicated his intention to keep the bill bottled up indefinitely."

Johnson uses political capitol of JFK's death to get it out of committee and passed in the House 290-130, but the bill would seem impossible to pass when he receives opposition from an empowered Democratic Senator:

"Johnson, who wanted the bill passed as soon as possible, ensured that the bill would be quickly considered by the Senate. Normally, the bill would have been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Senator James O. Eastland, Democrat from Mississippi. Given Eastland's firm opposition, it seemed impossible that the bill would reach the Senate floor. Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield took a novel approach to prevent the bill from being relegated to Judiciary Committee limbo. Having initially waived a second reading of the bill, which would have led to it being immediately referred to Judiciary, Mansfield gave the bill a second reading on February 26, 1964, and then proposed, in the absence of precedent for instances when a second reading did not immediately follow the first, that the bill bypass the Judiciary Committee and immediately be sent to the Senate floor for debate. Although this parliamentary move led to a filibuster, the senators eventually let it pass, preferring to concentrate their resistance on passage of the bill itself."

18 Democratic Senators and 1 Republican Senator filibuster the bill for 54 days.

While Senator Byrd, Democrat filibustered for 14 plus hours and brought the filibuster to 57 days, it was 2 Republicans and 2 Democratsthat brought out a new version to get Republican swing votes, because 67 votes were required and their bill got 72 votes.

THE FINAL VOTE TOTALS BY PARTY (YAYS-NAYS)

Original Version created by House

House Of Reps

Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%–39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%–20%)

Senate

Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%–34%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)

Second Version created by Senate

Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%–31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)

Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%–37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%–20%)

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Hmmm, it seems to me that Republicans voted for this at an 80 percent clips while the Dems were in the 60's. Of course your teacher had no problem teaching you myth in favor of his/her party. It's standard operating procedure in public education. Of course I'm not just blaming your teacher, this is a pretty standard myth that is perpetuated by the universities and the media. I would have even though the myth was true had I not done the research and to be honest I wasn't sure it wasn't true before I just did the research, although I had seen a youtube video that talked about this so I did suspect it was a myth.

IT WAS REPUBLICANS THAT LED THE ABOLITION MOVEMENT AND ITS REPUBLICANS THAT WERE OUT IN THE LEAD FOR CIVIL RIGHTS DESPITE THE MYTH(S) THAT YOUR UNIVERSITY AND MEDIA PEDDLES.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby tkr4lf on Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:52 am

ViperOverLord wrote:
tkr4lf wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:The man makes a good point. Either it's "group solidarity" or "blind groupthink" that's responsible for their still 91% approval rating of Obama (assuming those sources are correct). Like I implied in another post that John is humping to death, there's this mentality that a man of similar skin color is like a savior, and the only choice.

Going on this guy's OP, (judging from employment levels) if blacks have done better under Clinton and Bush, why did white presidents receive such low approval ratings from the majority of blacks?

Well, we've actually been discussing something similar in my US Government class. My teacher basically asserted that the main reason 95% of blacks vote Democrat (this is the figure from the textbook) is that going back to the civil rights era, it was mainly the politicians from the Democrat party that supported the civil rights era laws. It was mainly the politicians from the Republican party that supported the segregation and the status quo. So, that would explain partly why they stick so strongly with Obama. The other reason is simple, because we as a country finally have a black president. I think that they see that as a victory. And even if he does some things that they don't agree with, I think they feel that if they were to not support him, they would somehow be traitors to their race. Just my take on it.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

Kennedy tries to pass the bill:

"The bill was reported out of the Judiciary Committee in November 1963, and referred to the Rules Committee, whose chairman, Howard W. Smith, a Democrat and avid segregationist from Virginia, indicated his intention to keep the bill bottled up indefinitely."

Johnson uses political capitol of JFK's death to get it out of committee and passed in the House 290-130, but the bill would seem impossible to pass when he receives opposition from an empowered Democratic Senator:

"Johnson, who wanted the bill passed as soon as possible, ensured that the bill would be quickly considered by the Senate. Normally, the bill would have been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Senator James O. Eastland, Democrat from Mississippi. Given Eastland's firm opposition, it seemed impossible that the bill would reach the Senate floor. Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield took a novel approach to prevent the bill from being relegated to Judiciary Committee limbo. Having initially waived a second reading of the bill, which would have led to it being immediately referred to Judiciary, Mansfield gave the bill a second reading on February 26, 1964, and then proposed, in the absence of precedent for instances when a second reading did not immediately follow the first, that the bill bypass the Judiciary Committee and immediately be sent to the Senate floor for debate. Although this parliamentary move led to a filibuster, the senators eventually let it pass, preferring to concentrate their resistance on passage of the bill itself."

18 Democratic Senators and 1 Republican Senator filibuster the bill for 54 days.

While Senator Byrd, Democrat filibustered for 14 plus hours and brought the filibuster to 57 days, it was 2 Republicans and 2 Democratsthat brought out a new version to get Republican swing votes, because 67 votes were required and their bill got 72 votes.

THE FINAL VOTE TOTALS BY PARTY (YAYS-NAYS)

Original Version created by House

House Of Reps

Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%–39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%–20%)

Senate

Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%–34%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)

Second Version created by Senate

Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%–31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)

Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%–37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%–20%)

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Hmmm, it seems to me that Republicans voted for this at an 80 percent clips while the Dems were in the 60's. Of course your teacher had no problem teaching you myth in favor of his/her party. It's standard operating procedure in public education. Of course I'm not just blaming your teacher, this is a pretty standard myth that is perpetuated by the universities and the media. I would have even though the myth was true had I not done the research and to be honest I wasn't sure it wasn't true before I just did the research, although I had seen a youtube video that talked about this so I did suspect it was a myth.

IT WAS REPUBLICANS THAT LED THE ABOLITION MOVEMENT AND ITS REPUBLICANS THAT WERE OUT IN THE LEAD FOR CIVIL RIGHTS DESPITE THE MYTH(S) THAT YOUR UNIVERSITY AND MEDIA PEDDLES.

Dammit, I already typed this post once, but then the site went down, so I have to do this a second time around. :x

Thank you for pointing this out to me, VOL. I have learned something new. I actually went to that page on Wikipedia, and checked out the sources. I plan on checking more fully into them tomorrow before class, so that I can take them into my government teacher and confront her on this. Mainly because I simply do not like her. She is a crappy teacher. And not because of this, she just genuinely sucks at teaching.

But anyway, I guess this is what I get for blindly regurgitating something I learned in a college class without any actual research into its authenticity on my part. As to me going to a "university", I don't. I go to Austin Community College for now. I plan on transferring to UT once I get my associate's. So, I guess this is something I shouldn't be surprised to discover since it came from an adjunct teacher at a community college. I guess she shouldn't be expected to know what she is talking about, eh? (this is sarcasm, to be clear.)

Anyway, thanks for pointing out my mistake VOL. I would rather learn the truth then to keep thinking that I already know the truth.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby ViperOverLord on Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:58 am

^^^
YW and don't worry because although universities are more notorious for their liberal garbage, there is still plenty of it going on at the JC level. I know I experienced a good amount of it when I went to JC. In fact I arguably experienced more of it at JC. But then again I did more generals (political/social) classes at JC and did more business classes at my university so it really is more to do with that.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby spurgistan on Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:39 am

Phatscotty wrote:Image
by Jerome Hudson
10/06/2010

With poverty rates at an all-time high, black unemployment numbers at daunting levels, and Obamacare bringing no change on killing black babies, stunningly, black support for Obama is up.

In fact, black approval of President Obama is virtually unchanged at 91 percent since his inauguration.

Now, unless we believe that 91 percent of blacks are truly as radical as Obama (and every indication is that blacks are far more conservative than he is), then what explains how Obama could have 91% approval, when even among Democrats as a whole, that number is lower at just 79 percent?
Worse, black poverty is higher now than under President Bush.

In fact, during the Bush years, black unemployment was actually lower than during Clinton’s terms (you know, "the first black president"), at an average of 9 percent and certainly lower than the 16.3 percent it stands at today.

Indeed, under Obama, black unemployment rose from 12.6 in January 2010 to 16.3 percent as of August 1 2010. An almost 30 percent increase.

So far, President Bush has a better track record on black upward mobility than Clinton or Obama.

Regardless, Bush only enjoyed an average of about 32 percent approval amongst black voters two years into his first term. And we haven't even mentioned Bush’s historic cabinet level appointments of blacks or his unprecedented AIDS funding in Africa. Much to Kanye West’s chagrin, it turns out President Bush did, indeed, care about black people.

Still, some argue that black support of Obama is merely a function of "black solidarity”; that birds of a feather flock together. But that in itself is racist. After all, can you imagine white voters lining up 9 out of 10 to stand in "racial solidarity" with an elected official who was the equivalent of a wrecking ball slamming through their lives?

After nearly two years of Obama’s reckless spending spree, (John Keynes would be proud), 43.6 million Americans - one in seven people - now live in poverty, a 51-year high.

Looking deeper, these figures show that blacks, who account for only 13 percent of the population, make up 22.6 percent of the now 40.5 million Americans receiving benefits from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Food Stamps).

And after a year-long debate and an endless barrage of promises from the Obama White House that there would be no federal funding of abortions in the healthcare bill, we now know that tax dollars for abortions are being provided through high-risk insurance programs and have already been stopped in Pennsylvania, New Mexico and Maryland.

When political parties know that they no longer have to work for your vote, and that support from any voting bloc is automatic regardless of performance, those voters have relegated themselves to playing the role of perpetual dupe. Put simply, they are begging to be taken for granted.

Is it any wonder, then, that 50 years of black voters conceding 90 percent of their support to a party with a racist past has culminated in an anti-empowerment agenda that has sapped black Americans from achieving our maximum potential by creating a culture of dependency?

When Uncle Sam is your “baby daddy,” is it any wonder that so many inner city children chose gang life over graduation? Or that in just four days, more black children die at the hands of the abortion clinic then the KKK killed in its entire history?

Progressives and Democratic elites have long argued that black stagnation is the result of racism. But is a 70 percent illegitimacy rate among blacks (90 percent in some inner cities) the fault of “racism,” or a lack of accountability and personal responsibility?

The painful truth is that blacks kill more blacks (whether by gun or by a trip to the abortion clinic) at a higher rate than the Ku Klux Klan could have ever dreamed of.

So-called “civil rights leaders,” pseudo intellectuals, and progressive lawmakers are fully aware of these facts, yet they insist on pretending that “systemic” forces (racism) are more responsible than blacks themselves for sluggish black advancement.

It’s time for a frank discussion about the folly of monolithic voting among black Americans. When 91 percent of any racial group votes one way, it’s either out of racism or blind groupthink. Neither of these is good for America.


Hey, at least we still remember that 2000-2008 was actually under a Republican President. That oughta count for something.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby ViperOverLord on Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:52 am

^^
I didn't find it hilarious in the least bit and I feel that your scoffing is only a fallacious attempt to diminish the validity of the post.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby tzor on Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:32 am

While the article is interesting, I must find myself strongly disagreeing with the premise. Blacks (most of whom are ancestors of those who were forced into slavery here) support Obama, not because he is black (has ancestry from Africa but no ancestry to anyone who was ever a slave in the United States) but because he is a Democrat. This binding force is one of the strongest prejudices imaginable (as any conservative African American … like J.C. Watts can attest) and the most illogical since the close loyalty does the voter more harm than good in the long run.

This is very difficult to overcome (I would say it is currently impossible). It is easier for a nation to elect a back president than it is for the African American community to elect a Republican African American (for no matter how well they think of him, they are bound by their own faux sense of loyalty to vote Democrat anyway). There is some decay of this self harming mindset in younger African Americans, but only some.

It is the same faux attitude seen among many Jews today, their deep commitment towards Democrats (which comes from their former European roots where socialism was the counter to the anti-Semitic governments at the end of the 19th century) even though the most pro-Israeli presidents have been Republican, not Democrat. It’s all about tradition!
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:50 am

Your assumption that US jews would automatically support the Israeli government runs counter to my own experience.
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:22 pm

tkr4lf wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:The man makes a good point. Either it's "group solidarity" or "blind groupthink" that's responsible for their still 91% approval rating of Obama (assuming those sources are correct). Like I implied in another post that John is humping to death, there's this mentality that a man of similar skin color is like a savior, and the only choice.

Going on this guy's OP, (judging from employment levels) if blacks have done better under Clinton and Bush, why did white presidents receive such low approval ratings from the majority of blacks?

Well, we've actually been discussing something similar in my US Government class. My teacher basically asserted that the main reason 95% of blacks vote Democrat (this is the figure from the textbook) is that going back to the civil rights era, it was mainly the politicians from the Democrat party that supported the civil rights era laws. It was mainly the politicians from the Republican party that supported the segregation and the status quo. So, that would explain partly why they stick so strongly with Obama. The other reason is simple, because we as a country finally have a black president. I think that they see that as a victory. And even if he does some things that they don't agree with, I think they feel that if they were to not support him, they would somehow be traitors to their race. Just my take on it.


Regardless of the Democrats leading or not leading the Civil Rights movement by percentage, blacks--it seems--tend to vote Democrat because that's the party which benefits them on average the most with their focus on expanding welfare benefits and yada yada.

It's really the benefits that buys their votes, wouldn't you say so?
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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby bradleybadly on Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:50 pm

This has always been a sore spot for me as a black man. What tkr4 & Viper discussed already is really true. It's bullshit that that the Dems get credit on the civil rights bill, but because the perception is that they cared more about it, they get the credit. My grandparents had a picture of LBJ signing the bill and shaking Dr. King's hand after. My dad & mom now have it hanging over the fireplace at his house. That image of a Democrat signing the bill speaks louder than any words a Republican might speak on civil rights in their opinion. I rejected both my parents' faith and political views right around the time I graduated high school, so for me I think that a majority of blacks get hooked on imagery and don't give a damn about historical facts.

It really bugs me when I hear some black speaker say stupid shit like Bill Clinton was the first black president, or Kanye West talk about Bush hating black people. But that's the crap I've got to put up with in my own family. I remember when I used to pick on a few white kids to impress other blacks - it gets you "reputation points" and solidifies yourself within the "group". It's stupid but I did it. One of the guys I used to pick on was a conservative, and when we were later adults, he went out of his way to secure a job for me despite the fact I treated him like that. He showed his true self to me by doing that, and it humbled me. No "brother" ever did anything to to inspire me to be a better person, whether it had to do with my job performance or just being a good husband & dad. With the exception of my parents, I tell other black people to shove it up their ass now when they try to sell me on this group mentality that we have to stick together to protect ourselves from Republicans. I like thinking for myself and am never going back. F*ck the socialists.

I've been treated more like an equal by my white conservative friends than any black group. I'm judged by my opinions and content of my character rather than my ethnicity. And if any of you other blacks out there think I'm an Uncle Tom then F*ck you too!

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Re: Is Black Support for Obama Racist?

Postby InkL0sed on Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:25 am

How many times do I have to explain who the Dixiecrats were, and why the Democrats lost the South for good with the passage of Civil Rights?
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