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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby theherkman on Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:27 pm

spiesr wrote:Additionally, as flores mentioned when pointing it out in the first place, it can be considered a scum tell outside of day 1 random voting phase. Once the game gets to that point, simply voting for someone because they voted for you is seen as not being helpful towards finding scum, but rather advocating the lynch of another player for reasons that have almost nothing to do with the possibility of the player being scum. The logic follows that if you are taking such actions that hinder the finding of scum, that you must not want scum to be found, and therefor must be scum. Note that this only applies once the game has gotten serious. Early in day one there is essentially nothing to work with so you can get away with making worthless votes, although it is possible that in doing so you will say something that leads to you being the prime candidate for day 1 lynch. For these same reasons, if someone advocated the lynch of someone for posting in an annoying color once the game has gotten serious they would likely face similar suspicion...



Who was the first person to vote because of the color?
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby strike wolf on Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:28 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:Whoops, got fastposted! Just wanted to clarify - I tacked on "FOS for that lol" in my edit. As you can see, my edit was within a minute of my original post. Sorry guys and Mr. Squirrel. Just thought I should clear things up.



I don't care what reason you have for editing. You shouldn't do something like that. quote what you said, edit the part you mean to and post it with EBWOP at the end.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby spiesr on Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:38 pm

theherkman wrote:Who was the first person to vote because of the color?
Here it is. Immediately following dazerazer's first post on page 8.
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Not sure how this is important though. The game was still in the random voting is acceptable phase and it seems like a reasonable reaction to me.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby FloresDelMal on Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:25 pm

strike wolf wrote:unvote simply because I think we have a 10+ (can we get another vote count) wagon on someone and most people are voting that way because of the color of the posts. The pink is annoying as hell I agree but someone had to point out the obvious in that its not a legitimate reason to lynch. At least consider the legitimate evidence against daze.


the pink is annoying as hell and so is the yellow (fucking chu stop of doing that before i start to stick needles on a pikachu plushie), but the real reason she is being voted, and i think we all can agree on that, is how fishy it seems the way she was submarining just til the moment she got called on it, and then how she commented on niezsche posting but not adressing all the votes and comments directed at her, proving she was also skimming, then if you want to do some metagamming, victor hinted that is quite possible that violet is trying to cover for her scum buddy, therefor my vote stays where it is and FOS Violet


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spiesr wrote: It doesn't have to be an attempted scum murder. Maybe it is friendly murder...


friendly murder?? there is not such thing, right now you seem like a very friendly scum :o

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theherkman wrote:VOTE AOG

For voting me.

that is called OMGUS (oh my god you sucks) and outside of day 1 can easily be considered a scum tell, just my 2 cents to your mafia education


Can you explain that to me? Voting someone because they vote for me is a scum tell, but voting someone because they post in an obnoxious color is okay? Are you serious?


It's because voting someone merely because they voted you is basically seen as an irrational overactive defense response. A town player is trying to find scum and wouldn't vote someone purely for the reason that someone voted them. Also it lacks a real root of scumminess. While so does voting someone because they post in an obnoxious color, but it doesn't have the same kneejerk reaction quality.



IMPOSTOR who are you, and what have you done with the chu!!!!!!!!!!!! the REAL chu could have never used so many "complicated" words :P

nah seriously, with spiers and the chu explication i have nothing else to add, except chill out kid, i did say "outside day 1" in which is normal do it for fun.

theherkman wrote:Who was the first person to vote because of the color?


admit that you dont know that, is the same as admit that you are skimming, and skimming is another scum tell, again dont touchy, is normal for a newbie to make such faux pas and everyone will understand (well most likely at least)

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Victor Sullivan wrote:Whoops, got fastposted! Just wanted to clarify - I tacked on "FOS for that lol" in my edit. As you can see, my edit was within a minute of my original post. Sorry guys and Mr. Squirrel. Just thought I should clear things up.



I don't care what reason you have for editing. You shouldn't do something like that. quote what you said, edit the part you mean to and post it with EBWOP at the end.


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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby TheSaxlad on Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:44 pm

Right So We Lynch Daze for purple day1

and fir for yellow day 2?

Yellow is quite a scummy colour.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby Victor Sullivan on Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:54 pm

TheSaxlad wrote:Right So We Lynch Daze for purple day1

and fir for yellow day 2?

Yellow is quite a scummy colour.

We're not lynching daze because of her pink text. And we'll have substantial information tomorrow based off of night actions to accuse.

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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby sensfan on Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:32 pm

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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby theherkman on Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:52 pm

Why is skimming bad? I did read all/most of it, I just forgot who suggested the vote first and knew someone less lazy than I would point it out.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby theherkman on Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:53 pm

So I thought about it a little and its definitely stupid that skimming is a scum tell. Then would not all mafia read everything and not skim? Then you run into the whole wine in front of me thing...
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby Fircoal on Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:02 pm

theherkman wrote:So I thought about it a little and its definitely stupid that skimming is a scum tell. Then would not all mafia read everything and not skim? Then you run into the whole wine in front of me thing...


No they wouldn't. And the thing is, certain mafia especially nooby ones are only concerned with keeping their hides in tact. That means they don't care what's happening as long as they aren't being put on the chopping block. This means they could quickly breeze through the text in order to put down a somewhat relevant post without all the information. IF someone is missing key parts obviously they're not devoted to the lynching of scum, so that is suspicious. However I do think that Flores is wrong in that, knowing the first person to vote because of color is not an obvious or even discussed fact. I think it'd require most of us to look back and find out who it was. For someone to ask for this information, especially someone short on time, has been done and is nawt scummy.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby Fircoal on Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:05 pm

FloresDelMal wrote:
spiesr wrote: It doesn't have to be an attempted scum murder. Maybe it is friendly murder...


friendly murder?? there is not such thing, right now you seem like a very friendly scum :o


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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby Fircoal on Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:06 pm

Btw if you guys haven't noticed. While there many be a good reason for a couple of you, a good portion of the lynch really has been LOOK AT HER COLOR!!!!! I DUN LIEK IT!!!!! which seems ridiculous to me.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:10 pm

Fircoal wrote:Btw if you guys haven't noticed. While there many be a good reason for a couple of you, a good portion of the lynch really has been LOOK AT HER COLOR!!!!! I DUN LIEK IT!!!!! which seems ridiculous to me.


Yeah, but regardless the lynch actually is a valid one. So the fact that some people voted for the wrong reason doesn't make the lynch any less valid.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby Fircoal on Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:31 pm

Haggis_McMutton wrote:
Fircoal wrote:Btw if you guys haven't noticed. While there many be a good reason for a couple of you, a good portion of the lynch really has been LOOK AT HER COLOR!!!!! I DUN LIEK IT!!!!! which seems ridiculous to me.


Yeah, but regardless the lynch actually is a valid one. So the fact that some people voted for the wrong reason doesn't make the lynch any less valid.


Maybe, but I'd like to see some questions anwsered by her before I commit to lynch. I personally think that some of the color voters may be scummier.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby dazerazer on Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:26 pm

Oh, she's only at L-10. It's weird adapting to such a big game, for some reason i thought she was close to a lynch.

Well in that case: unvote vote dazerazer


Why ya’ll be pickin on me?


How ya’ll gunna call me lurking when there are others who have not posted as much as I have?

Vio gave me a heads up. Is that bad?

Seriously in real life- I’m going through some major legal battles, and I just had a major exam I was studying for last week.

Not to get into all that- but seriously this game was last on my list of priorities.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby theherkman on Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:29 pm

dazerazer wrote:
Oh, she's only at L-10. It's weird adapting to such a big game, for some reason i thought she was close to a lynch.

Well in that case: unvote vote dazerazer


Why ya’ll be pickin on me?


How ya’ll gunna call me lurking when there are others who have not posted as much as I have?

Vio gave me a heads up. Is that bad?

Seriously in real life- I’m going through some major legal battles, and I just had a major exam I was studying for last week.

Not to get into all that- but seriously this game was last on my list of priorities.



That doesn't actually sound that convincing to me...
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby theherkman on Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:30 pm

Fircoal wrote:
theherkman wrote:So I thought about it a little and its definitely stupid that skimming is a scum tell. Then would not all mafia read everything and not skim? Then you run into the whole wine in front of me thing...


No they wouldn't. And the thing is, certain mafia especially nooby ones are only concerned with keeping their hides in tact. That means they don't care what's happening as long as they aren't being put on the chopping block. This means they could quickly breeze through the text in order to put down a somewhat relevant post without all the information. IF someone is missing key parts obviously they're not devoted to the lynching of scum, so that is suspicious. However I do think that Flores is wrong in that, knowing the first person to vote because of color is not an obvious or even discussed fact. I think it'd require most of us to look back and find out who it was. For someone to ask for this information, especially someone short on time, has been done and is nawt scummy.



Well I feel better about that now.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby strike wolf on Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:44 pm

dazerazer wrote:Vio gave me a heads up. Is that bad?

That's enough information for me between vio's earlier defense of you and that she contacted you. I am now fairly convinced you and vio are scum. vote daze again
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby edocsil on Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:04 pm

Hum, maybe not scum, but they certainly knew each other. Could be a mason group, but I will assume scum till other evidence is provided.

My vote is already on daze.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby spiesr on Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:11 pm

dazerazer wrote:How ya’ll gunna call me lurking when there are others who have not posted as much as I have?
Having low activity by itself is not necessarily a scum tell. However, posting so quickly after you are called out for not posting implies that you were actively following the thread, yet not posting in order to hide and avoid suspicion. "Out of site, out of mind." That could definitely be interpreted as being a scum tell, it implies that you don't care about what happens today as long as you are not lynched, not a very pro-town attitude to have. Sometimes new scum make mistakes like that that give away their alignment.

The fact the violet alerted you to the fact that you were under fire for not posting is interpreted by some to mean that the two of you are both members of the mafia faction and that she gave you a heads up about that to try and prevent suspicion from building up on a scum mate. This might be stretching things a little too much, but if one of you turns up scum it would certainly warrant a close look at the other in my opinion...
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby / on Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:51 pm

When will people be judged not by the color of their post but by the content of their character? Not the forties.
I think we might as well ask dazerazer for clarification
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby theherkman on Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:01 pm

And I'm not sure what to do, but I'm going to go with the fact that most of you know what you are doing. Also, most of you are good. And most of you are saying vote Dazerazer... So again... vote dazerazer
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby nietzsche on Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:05 pm

Sorry guys, I didn't know I couldn't post here. :(
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby theherkman on Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:08 pm

nietzsche wrote:Sorry guys, I didn't know I couldn't post here. :(


I posted it on your wall... Why are you still posting? Sign up for a replacement if you really want in.
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Re: New Briarsburg Mafia. Day 1 Begins!

Postby Fircoal on Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:12 pm

I think the bigger question is if Violet and Daze are friends outside of this game. I mean if they aren't than it's most certainally scummy. But I've had people like Nag, Pmc, Frenchie-chan, and others (more during the days in which they were there :P ) tell me via MSN that I should post in certain threads because I'm a lazy jerk. :P So it's not really something unheard of. Between friends at least. It is unheard of for someone who doesn't another another person to tell them they should post. ;3
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